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Sep 20 21:32:57 <monod2> hello everyone!
Sep 20 21:33:07 <monod2> is openmoko dead? has it failed its goal?
Sep 20 21:38:15 <monod2> judging from the amount of answers, should take it as a yes...
Sep 20 21:49:11 <PBeck> monod: of course its not a big community anymore, but its not dead
Sep 20 21:49:34 <monod> any future plans?
Sep 20 21:49:44 <monod> if you know
Sep 20 21:49:50 <PBeck> gta04 and neo900 are the future plans
Sep 20 21:49:56 <monod> ok
Sep 20 21:50:00 <monod> thanks
Sep 20 21:50:23 <monod> perhaps initially openmoko was intended to compete with smartphones?
Sep 20 21:50:31 <monod> maybe with 2009 low end ones?
Sep 20 21:50:35 <monod> PBeck, ^
Sep 20 21:51:40 <PBeck> openmoko had always the problem that it has not enough man power. But of course openmoko was a smartphone
Sep 20 21:52:13 <PBeck> openmoko was to fast for the market - open hardware is expensive. But you see - open source is a good deal (see android)
Sep 20 21:52:37 <monod> "nyes"
Sep 20 21:52:43 <monod> android is a marketing trick, imho
Sep 20 21:53:13 <monod> under the disguise of an open source project - it served google to get a large share of mobile market
Sep 20 21:53:21 <monod> and it is serving as such
Sep 20 21:54:39 <PBeck> of course it has not the same history and targets as openmoko
Sep 20 21:54:50 <PBeck> openmoko was completly different
Sep 20 21:57:52 <PBeck> btw - what was your core question?
Sep 20 21:58:27 <monod> I am here to gather informations :)
Sep 20 21:58:55 <monod> I'd like to see foss projects spread over proprietary ones - and I'd like to see if this would be possible to see in a lifetime
Sep 20 21:59:00 <monod> :D
Sep 20 21:59:32 <PBeck> monod: then i wish you a long life ;)
Sep 20 21:59:45 <monod> what's your opinion for example?
Sep 20 22:00:28 <PBeck> i buyed a freerunner, liked it, but it was never my daily phone
Sep 20 22:01:19 <PBeck> so this kind of devices needs a bit more time to envolve
Sep 20 22:01:39 <PBeck> perhaps tizen will be a bit better - with a big player behind it should be possible
Sep 20 22:01:48 <monod> I think the problem is somewhere else, that's why I'm researching.
Sep 20 22:01:55 <monod> and yea, I was hoping for tizen as well
Sep 20 22:01:55 <kirun> I tried it as my daily phone for a while. It never really worked out apart from some kids on the train once said my phone was cool.
Sep 20 22:02:04 <monod> haha :D
Sep 20 22:02:15 <monod> if you go to #tizen, nobody answers :(
Sep 20 22:02:23 <monod> I was lucky to reach you
Sep 20 22:03:00 <kirun> But really, call quality, battery life, and slow wakeup giving like half a ring to answer killed it as a daily
Sep 20 22:03:31 <PBeck> kirun: yeah the same here
Sep 20 22:03:36 <monod> kirun, tizen?
Sep 20 22:03:38 <monod> or om?
Sep 20 22:03:45 <kirun> Openmoko
Sep 20 22:03:53 <PBeck> here you also see - a company with 50 people or with 500 or more.
Sep 20 22:04:33 <monod> mh?
Sep 20 22:06:13 <PBeck> comparison of openmoko and samsung
Sep 20 22:07:08 <monod> ahh
Sep 20 22:07:12 <monod> ofcourse
Sep 20 22:14:40 <PBeck> so i have to go to bed - see you bye bye
Sep 20 22:15:07 <monod> not in time :(
Sep 20 22:15:09 <monod> byee
Sep 21 00:39:15 <tomcatek> I used t use FR as my daily phone. It war bit complicated at that time, bit mnagable. When I'm reaading about ll those security/privacy issues aboit Android/iOS/WP8 I'm thinking about the FR lying somewhere.
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