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Nov 06 20:22:37 <Thamos> Does anybody know how to use a bluetooth headset in current shr? i have heard that the instructions in the wiki are outdated, because shr doesn't use ophoned since a long time.  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth 
Nov 06 20:26:42 <Thamos> any clues?
Nov 06 20:27:40 <PaulFertser> Thamos: I'm afraid that's just not supported in SHR anymore.
Nov 06 20:27:48 <PaulFertser> Thamos: qtmoko probably can work, but I'm not sure.
Nov 06 20:28:38 <Thamos> not supported? i hoped it just changed an nobody updated wiki...
Nov 06 20:28:44 <PaulFertser> Sigh
Nov 06 20:29:03 <PaulFertser> Unfortunately, no. None of FSO users really needed it.
Nov 06 20:29:14 <Thamos> :(
Nov 06 20:29:25 <PaulFertser> E.g. I'm using FSO2/Cornucopia on Debian but I didn't really need to get BT headset working.
Nov 06 20:29:25 <Thamos> Do you know what is missing, to get it working?
Nov 06 20:29:35 <PaulFertser> Well, not much really.
Nov 06 20:29:52 <Thamos> not much missing, or don't you know much?
Nov 06 20:30:02 <PaulFertser> Not much missing.
Nov 06 20:30:07 <PaulFertser> I know a lot :)
Nov 06 20:30:12 <Thamos> :)
Nov 06 20:31:08 <PaulFertser> I can explain how it should work. And used to work.
Nov 06 20:31:21 <PaulFertser> And how you can probably make a hackish solution.
Nov 06 20:31:26 <Thamos> i woul apreciate, maybe i can find some workaround...
Nov 06 20:32:01 <Thamos> sounds good. But i want to use for daily usage in the end (but hackish is ok for me :) )
Nov 06 20:32:17 <PaulFertser> Thamos: there's a program in bluetoothd sources to communicate with SCO headsets.
Nov 06 20:33:17 <PaulFertser> Thamos: by default our BT adapters are configured to use its HW PCM interface with SCO, and not get data via USB (HCI).
Nov 06 20:33:42 <PaulFertser> Thamos: so if you'll be experimenting with scoplay and such, do not be surprised you can't hear the file you're trying to play.
Nov 06 20:34:13 <Thamos> scoplay is the program from bluetoothd sources?
Nov 06 20:34:47 <PaulFertser> Thamos: but you need to start something like scoplay to connect to the BT headset and make it listen to the stream. And then you just load an appropriate "scenario" that would configure the "soundcard" to connect GSM PCM to BT PCM.
Nov 06 20:36:59 <Thamos> ok.
Nov 06 20:37:16 <Thamos> from where do i get scoplay?
Nov 06 20:37:26 <PaulFertser> Thamos: found some notes, I used hstest
Nov 06 20:42:53 <PaulFertser> Thamos: so my guess is that if you use hstest and load btheadset scenario during an ongoing GSM conversation, you'll be able to talk with your BT headset.
Nov 06 20:43:23 <Thamos> ok, where do i get hstest?
Nov 06 20:43:27 <Thamos> with bluetoothd?
Nov 06 20:43:37 <PaulFertser> Yes
Nov 06 20:43:42 <PaulFertser> Isn't it there anymore?
Nov 06 20:44:40 <PaulFertser> In fact it's part of "BlueZ".
Nov 06 20:44:49 <Thamos> not in default path.
Nov 06 20:44:53 <Thamos> i am searching now.
Nov 06 20:45:30 <PaulFertser> I meant sources.
Nov 06 20:45:35 <Thamos> oh, ok.
Nov 06 20:45:44 <Thamos> don't have these yet
Nov 06 20:46:58 <PaulFertser> Thamos: my point is not that you must use hstest for that but to explain the idea behind it, and you can probably implement it with bluez's current dbus interface or unix socket or whatever they came with in the end.
Nov 06 20:47:29 <Thamos> yeah, it's a dbus interface i think.
Nov 06 20:48:24 <Thamos> but i am not really familiar with dbus, or coding at all... So i want to test your proof of concept first, befor i make that much work for me. 
Nov 06 20:51:42 <PaulFertser> Thamos: if you're not familiar with programming, it's better to try to implement it together with some *nix fan, might be too hard for you alone.
Nov 06 20:55:21 <Thamos> nothing is too hard in the end.... but much to time consuming. I would say i am a linux fan, but i have coded only  java-school projects, bash(with some awk and so on), no c, python, dbus or what else they are using here in shr.
Nov 06 20:56:51 <PaulFertser> Yeah, time-consuming indeed.
Nov 06 20:57:05 <PaulFertser> Do you know how I'm using my gta02? ;)
Nov 06 20:58:00 <PaulFertser> SHR also needs Vala
Nov 06 21:32:31 <Thamos> sry for beeing away, had an imprtant call at the landline (not nearby the computer)
Nov 06 21:33:09 <Thamos> Paul Fertser
Nov 06 21:34:46 <Thamos> PaulFertser: Still there?
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