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Jun 23 09:12:29 <gena2x> How are the former openmoko users? Everybody switched to Jolla or something?
Jun 23 09:42:28 <PaulFertser> gena2x: not me
Jun 23 09:42:30 <PaulFertser> gena2x: hi :)
Jun 23 09:59:18 <gena2x> PaulFertser: Hi Paul! Year ago I bought a Jolla. First it look like bare but very stable phone functionality. But that guys did really excellent work.
Jun 23 10:00:29 <gena2x> After openmoko, I can't believe, but they fixed all annoyances and added a lot of features.
Jun 23 10:00:57 <gena2x> So it turn that it's possible to create good phone from nothing.
Jun 23 10:02:30 <PaulFertser> Free software one?
Jun 23 10:05:29 <gena2x> Unfortunately not even close to openmoko =( . But that is not that black-and-white.
Jun 23 10:06:55 <PaulFertser> Enough to be unsuitable for me ...
Jun 23 10:09:15 <gena2x> Still phone with normal Linux userland is much better than android's way.
Jun 23 10:10:05 <gena2x> For me openness is just big benefit, but not absolutely everything.
Jun 23 10:10:08 <PaulFertser> I'd rather use nokia 3310 and a netbook instead.
Jun 23 10:11:02 <gena2x> Too much stuff to carry for me =)
Jun 23 10:14:20 <PaulFertser> I'm still on my gta02.
Jun 23 19:14:49 <DocScrutinizer05> sailfish isn't "from nothing" - it's pretty much based on mer which is based on maemo
Jun 23 19:15:33 <DocScrutinizer05> and maemo was a working decent phone OS (and still is)
Jun 23 19:16:30 <DocScrutinizer05> PaulFertser: would you, by any chance, want to join CCCAMP15? Highly recommended, will be one of the best times of your life ;-)
Jun 23 19:18:42 <DocScrutinizer05> https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Village:Neo
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