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Jun 06 11:56:49 <JiiKoo> https://share.riseup.net/#7jtAfjVZBSdnvhLlyIXX2g Is this something to do with the GSM antenna?
Jun 06 11:58:32 <JiiKoo> According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware#GSM.2FGPRS_2 it probably is the GSM/GPRS antenna jack.
Jun 06 12:01:51 <JiiKoo> So basically one does not need to put the FreeRunner in a faraday cage to block signals; one can just plug out that part?
Jun 06 12:04:07 <PaulFertser> JiiKoo: depending on conditions like cell station proximity it can work even without antenna.
Jun 06 12:04:33 <PaulFertser> JiiKoo: but you can power off the GSM part physically by issuing a simple command.
Jun 06 12:04:54 <PaulFertser> You can check schematics if you do not trust it yet :)
Jun 06 12:05:17 <PaulFertser> JiiKoo: and no, that connector on the photo you showed is GPS antenna connected to main PCB.
Jun 06 12:05:21 <PaulFertser> Nothing to do with GSM.
Jun 06 12:06:30 <JiiKoo> Ah, right
Jun 06 12:09:05 <PaulFertser> JiiKoo: "om gsm power 0" or something like that. Reliably powers off all GSM.
Jun 06 12:12:30 <JiiKoo> ~logs
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Jun 06 12:14:35 <JiiKoo> Then I see where the GSM jack is, at the bottom right corner of the device.
Jun 06 12:15:55 <JiiKoo> But what is this exposed rectangle, in the bottom of the picture I linked?
Jun 06 12:30:49 <PaulFertser> JiiKoo: part of GSM antenna
Jun 06 12:35:37 <JiiKoo> Thank you for your answers
Jun 06 12:36:13 <PaulFertser> JiiKoo: eh, sorry, GPS!
Jun 06 12:36:30 <PaulFertser> GSM antenna is in the bottom of the device, and that part you showed is the top.
Jun 06 12:36:32 <JiiKoo> Oh, okay
Jun 06 12:36:46 <JiiKoo> Yep
Jun 06 13:39:44 <DocScrutinizer05> the GSM antenna jack is under that deep hole
Jun 06 13:40:04 <DocScrutinizer05> you can connect it with a long adapter
Jun 06 13:40:37 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders where his adapter gone
Jun 06 13:59:39 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: but he wants to disconnect antenna hoping it will prevent GSM from working :)
Jun 06 14:00:04 <DocScrutinizer05> won't fly
Jun 06 14:00:40 <PaulFertser> Yep
Jun 06 14:01:02 <DocScrutinizer05> A) you need to remove antenna, there is no plug. B) as you said, it might even work completely without antenna. However plugging in an adapter to the GSM test jack should reliably stop this
Jun 06 14:01:59 <DocScrutinizer05> though C) it's futile effort since rather shut down calypso
Jun 06 14:02:26 <PaulFertser> JiiKoo: ^^^ what Doc says
Jun 06 14:04:18 <DocScrutinizer05> on a funny sidenote: I wondered why my Neo had such poor reception, until I noticed it's an american version ;-)
Jun 06 14:04:21 <JiiKoo> Allright ☺
Jun 06 14:05:33 <DocScrutinizer05> of course this only happened occasionally when it had to use the allegedly unsupported band
Jun 06 14:06:04 <DocScrutinizer05> for an unsupported band it worked rather fine
Jun 06 23:57:59 <JiiKoo> At http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader it says: "The second NAND resident bootloader can be modified without any risk.  This bootloader can be booted into by pressing and holding the AUX  button and then pressing the Power button."
Jun 06 23:58:25 <JiiKoo> Is that some kind of error? I thought FreeRunner boots from NAND by default with only power button.
Jun 07 00:15:27 <JiiKoo> Also where is the Memory Test that is mentioned at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Boot_Order stored?
Jun 07 01:21:57 <__builtin> hey
Jun 07 01:22:20 * __builtin is a contributor to the Rockbox project which was just allocated USB IDs from the openmoko pool
Jun 07 01:23:56 <__builtin> thank you!
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