**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 09 03:00:02 2017 Apr 09 07:49:58 "Imagine systemd wasn't FOSS (which arguably it actually isn't really)", I want to make it clear, is systemd a FOSS or not ? Apr 10 02:12:26 thereyougo: systemd is FOSS as much (or less) as e.g. openoffice is. IOW it's available sourcecode with GPL license, but community has no saying in where the code moves to and the codebase is so complex and poorly documented that nobody could participate/contribute even if they were "allowed" to (aka the systemd cabal would accept their patches) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 10 03:00:00 2017