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Jan 29 14:12:34 <Elleo> oops
Jan 29 18:14:45 <samgee> Hi. My freerunner was working fine when I stopped using it last June. Now I want to pick it up again, but my nand boot fails with a kernel panic and my sd boot failed with some i/o error...
Jan 29 18:15:31 <samgee> I untarred the latest qtmoko on the sd, but it still fails. Error = wrong image format for bootm command. Not sure what that means.
Jan 29 18:16:05 <samgee> I actually planned to run debian, but the wiki page says it needs a working nand to bootstrap.
Jan 29 18:16:39 <samgee> How can I get my pocket monster going again?
Jan 29 18:17:28 <samgee> Use case is not cell phone, but some form of communication over wifi.
Jan 29 18:19:11 <samgee> Bootloader = u-boot 1.3.2-moko12
Jan 29 18:28:41 <samgee> nand boot error: UBI error: ubi_read_volume_table: the layout volume was not found
Jan 29 18:38:50 <PaulFertser> samgee: regarding the sd error, it means whatever it read from card as a kernel is not a u-boot image.
Jan 29 18:41:31 <samgee> hm, I used the tarball from https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/
Jan 29 18:43:04 <PaulFertser> samgee: do you have full log or photo?
Jan 29 18:44:42 <PaulFertser> samgee: are you using nand bootloader to boot from SD card or NOR bootloader?
Jan 29 18:44:56 <PaulFertser> samgee: that's an important part because the NOR one might be outdated.
Jan 29 18:45:25 <samgee> using nor
Jan 29 18:45:36 * samgee tries to get a picture
Jan 29 18:46:24 <PaulFertser> samgee: you're supposed to use NOR only to reflash NAND :)
Jan 29 18:46:35 <PaulFertser> With dfu-util
Jan 29 18:46:36 <samgee> oh
Jan 29 18:48:13 <samgee> I remembered holding the top button and then the side button to boot to sd.
Jan 29 18:49:10 <PaulFertser> samgee: that would be using NOR bootloader and that's generally a bad idea because it's an old version.
Jan 29 18:50:36 <samgee> how do I get to sd otherwise?
Jan 29 18:50:43 * samgee wading through ancient docs
Jan 29 18:52:36 <PaulFertser> samgee: you flash u-boot or Qi to NAND with dfu-util, and that would in turn boot from SD.
Jan 29 18:54:43 <samgee> I thought I had done that once, many years ago.
Jan 29 18:54:59 <samgee> ooh, I still have dfu-util on this machine
Jan 29 18:55:19 * samgee goes to find an image
Jan 29 18:55:50 <PaulFertser> samgee: my point is, using NOR u-boot for actual booting is not recommended because there are known issues with it. Fixed in later versions.
Jan 29 18:56:30 <PaulFertser> samgee: btw, https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ has a README and it shows how to flash Qi to NAND.
Jan 29 18:56:44 <PaulFertser> samgee: and Qi image is there too
Jan 29 18:56:50 <samgee> yeah, just saw that 2 seconds ago :)
Jan 29 18:57:18 <samgee> NAND boot = power + aux, but that got me the kernel panic so far.
Jan 29 18:57:35 <PaulFertser> samgee: no, nand boot is just short power button press.
Jan 29 18:58:02 <PaulFertser> (I mean it's boot to NAND bootloader, and then whatever it decides to do)
Jan 29 18:58:22 <samgee> hm, same kernel panic
Jan 29 18:58:58 <PaulFertser> Can you show?
Jan 29 18:59:10 <PaulFertser> Have you flashed Qi with dfu-util?
Jan 29 18:59:42 <samgee> trying that now
Jan 29 19:04:17 <samgee> dfu-util finished without error. Still getting kernel panic.
Jan 29 19:06:02 <samgee> it's hard to get a readable picture of the device.
Jan 29 19:06:25 <PaulFertser> samgee: are you sure you used ext3 and proper command to unpack tar to it?
Jan 29 19:08:00 <samgee> Pretty sure, but I'll try again
Jan 29 19:09:04 <PaulFertser> And that it's the first partition and ms-dos partition table? 
Jan 29 19:09:14 <PaulFertser> I'd really like to see the actual panic message
Jan 29 19:17:34 <samgee> Still the same panic. Picture doesn't work, so I'll just have to type it over.
Jan 29 19:18:53 <PaulFertser> You can try to rephrase
Jan 29 19:22:54 <samgee> http://dpaste.com/1FDDTRR
Jan 29 19:23:13 <samgee> I left out the timestamps and the stacktrace that comes after that.
Jan 29 19:24:10 <PaulFertser> samgee: that looks pretty much like it's trying to use NAND for rootfs.
Jan 29 19:24:28 <PaulFertser> samgee: so probably the bootloader doesn't see SD at all.
Jan 29 19:24:40 <PaulFertser> samgee: how many vibrations do you get on boot?
Jan 29 19:24:49 <PaulFertser> Or aux blinks
Jan 29 19:24:51 <samgee> that's what I suspected
Jan 29 19:25:30 <samgee> 1 vibration, 1 blink
Jan 29 19:25:47 <PaulFertser> samgee: can you show ls -l for root of SD from your PC, along with the appropriate line from "mount"?
Jan 29 19:26:35 <PaulFertser> And are you sure this SD card is not SDXC?
Jan 29 19:29:20 <samgee> http://dpaste.com/398H2XV
Jan 29 19:30:04 <samgee> I bought an SDXC a few weeks ago to use for this, but I realized only after that I couldn't use it in the FR
Jan 29 19:30:28 <PaulFertser> samgee: yes, looks proper. Still it might be an incompatible SD card...
Jan 29 19:31:08 <samgee> hm, this one's SDHC.
Jan 29 19:32:15 <PaulFertser> SDHC should work
Jan 29 19:32:37 <PaulFertser> samgee: using Qi is sometimes kinda pain without serial console...
Jan 29 19:32:55 <PaulFertser> samgee: do you consider reflashing nand with dfu-util?
Jan 29 19:34:23 <samgee> I wanted to check if I still have some data on there I want to keep, but if that's the only way to get it going, I'll just have to be grownup about it :)
Jan 29 19:34:36 <PaulFertser> samgee: there should still be some ways to boot from SD...
Jan 29 19:35:08 <PaulFertser> samgee: oh, btw, you're trying SD without sim card I assume, right?
Jan 29 19:36:17 <samgee> indeed, no SIM. But I have one handy if necessary.
Jan 29 19:36:31 <PaulFertser> samgee: have you already guessed why it might matter? ;)
Jan 29 19:36:46 <samgee> :/
Jan 29 19:36:49 * samgee tries again
Jan 29 19:37:07 <PaulFertser> samgee: sim card physically pushes SD for better contact.
Jan 29 19:37:58 <samgee> Still the same panic
Jan 29 19:38:02 <PaulFertser> :(
Jan 29 19:38:20 <PaulFertser> There should be zero vibrations, or else it means Qi skipped SD partition.
Jan 29 19:38:57 * samgee blows contacts on phone and SD
Jan 29 19:39:56 <samgee> Still vibration + panic.
Jan 29 19:40:51 <samgee> I had this thing in my pocket for 9 years and submitted it to some e-pain. It kept on working. Now it's been lying on the table for a few months and it's totally b0rked?
Jan 29 19:40:56 <PaulFertser> Can you try another SD just in case/
Jan 29 19:41:11 <PaulFertser> What was e-pain?
Jan 29 19:41:17 <PaulFertser> Could it have damaged NAND contents?
Jan 29 19:42:02 <PaulFertser> NAND is NAND, it's not super-reliable
Jan 29 19:42:30 <PaulFertser> samgee: do you probably have a UART USB converter? Then you can just read Qi's bootlog from a testpoint.
Jan 29 19:42:33 <samgee> I think I dropped it from about 0.5 m once, and it got moist in my pocket from rain a few times.
Jan 29 19:43:06 <samgee> I have no idea what that would look like.
Jan 29 19:43:25 <samgee> Ah, found another SD
Jan 29 19:56:02 <samgee> This card is taking a really long time to write to. Also, it's only 512 MiB.
Jan 29 20:09:50 <samgee> Finally done. Still the same kernel panic. :(
Jan 29 20:10:26 <samgee> That's the only other SD I have.
Jan 29 20:26:51 <PaulFertser> samgee: you can flash u-boot to NAND as bootloader and it should show more data about sd card.
Jan 29 20:28:53 <samgee> Do you know of a good u-boot image?
Jan 29 20:29:03 <PaulFertser> No, since I was a Qi fan.
Jan 29 20:29:11 <samgee> ah :)
Jan 29 20:29:55 <PaulFertser> But I think there's something relevant on the wiki.
Jan 29 20:30:55 <samgee> Looking at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x
Jan 29 20:31:40 <samgee> hm, dead link
Jan 29 20:32:49 * samgee downloads random u-boot binary
Jan 29 20:32:55 <samgee> yay software freedom :)
Jan 29 20:40:18 <samgee> The good news: no kernel panic. The bad news: I just get a black screen with some pixels in random colors.
Jan 29 20:45:39 <samgee> Ooh, I got a NAND boot menu using power + aux
Jan 29 20:47:55 <samgee> Apparently I have SHR in flash, but that also ends in kernel panic. "VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block(0,0)".
Jan 29 20:50:23 <PaulFertser> But with nand u-boot you might be able to make it show what exactly it doesn't like about sd.
Jan 29 20:50:31 <samgee> Now I got a bit more from SD boot, but it seems to hang.
Jan 29 20:50:43 <PaulFertser> samgee: you can attach to it as it exposes ttyACM device and you can issue uboot commands there interactively.
Jan 29 20:51:55 <samgee> It hangs with "Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2..."
Jan 29 20:52:14 <PaulFertser> samgee: oh, it means it expects rootfs to be on the second SD partition.
Jan 29 20:52:16 <samgee> pcf50633 0-0073: usb curlim to 1000mA
Jan 29 20:52:25 <samgee> oh
Jan 29 20:52:34 <PaulFertser> samgee: but you can edit it via ACM before booting.
Jan 29 20:52:47 <PaulFertser> setenv bootargs etc.
Jan 29 20:53:05 <PaulFertser> But you're pretty close now.
Jan 29 20:53:15 * samgee looks on wiki for ACM magic incantations
Jan 29 20:53:25 <PaulFertser> Not magic, regular u-boot
Jan 29 20:53:43 <PaulFertser> Or just try creating a second partition on your fast SD and untar rootfs there.
Jan 29 20:54:27 <samgee> That might be easier (for me) :)
Jan 29 21:03:56 <samgee> Resized the partition, put another one (ext3) next to it, untarred also to that one, so both partitions have the same fs.
Jan 29 21:04:08 <samgee> Boot ends with "ERROR: can't find kernel image"
Jan 29 21:04:37 <PaulFertser> samgee: how was it able to before?..
Jan 29 21:05:21 <samgee> Dunno, my first boot from NAND had the same. It was the second try that got further.
Jan 29 21:05:45 <samgee> now it's booting again
Jan 29 21:06:10 <samgee> uhm, see an SHR splash screen
Jan 29 21:07:23 <samgee> wow, I'm in SHR's main menu
Jan 29 21:07:35 <samgee> I'm pretty sure I told it to boot from SD
Jan 29 21:11:30 <samgee> It shows battery at 12% even though it's plugged in for a while. I'm not going to get more than 5 seconds of wifi on this thing.
Jan 29 21:18:03 <samgee> Booting SD actually shows a series of: cmd 0x8, arg 0x1aa flags 0x75
Jan 29 21:18:18 <samgee> Error after cmd: 0xfffffffe
Jan 29 21:18:49 <samgee> Times 12 or something (it's pretty quick)
Jan 29 21:19:02 <samgee> then: No MMC card found
Jan 29 21:19:26 <samgee> I guess it's not liking my SD.
Jan 29 21:21:32 <samgee> Replaced the card, now boot gives me some card info and then "Unable to read uImage.bin from mmc 1:1"
Jan 29 21:23:39 <samgee> That's all I have time for today. I'll stick around in case anyone would like to share a tip.
Jan 29 21:32:43 <PaulFertser> samgee: you can just move kernel image from /boot to / of the first partition on the card, and name it uImage.bin.
Jan 29 21:33:01 <PaulFertser> samgee: regarding the battery, you can just use new nokia bl-6c or bl-5c.
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