**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 02 03:00:02 2018 Oct 02 11:59:15 to start with, all standard android and IOS smartphones have a OS that's the opposite of safe Oct 02 12:02:37 ~secure Oct 02 12:02:37 Linux is secure, at least up to the administrator, heh. Oct 02 12:03:12 ~secure is also >>nothing is inherently secure or insecure, one needs to have a threat model to evaluate all the options<< Oct 02 12:03:12 * apt gives is also >>nothing is inherently secure or insecure, one needs to have a threat model to evaluate all the options<< a good dose of security Oct 02 12:15:02 ~factinfo gives Oct 02 12:15:02 DocScrutinizer05: there's no such factoid as gives Oct 02 12:17:06 ~literal secure Oct 02 12:17:06 "secure" is " Linux is secure, at least up to the administrator, heh." Oct 02 12:18:49 apt: no, "secure" is " Linux is secure, at least up to the administrator, heh. Generally nothing is inherently secure or insecure, one needs to have a threat model to evaluate all the options Oct 02 12:18:49 DocScrutinizer05: what are you talking about? Oct 02 12:18:57 apt: no, "secure" is " Linux is secure, at least up to the administrator, heh. Generally nothing is inherently secure or insecure, one needs to have a threat model to evaluate all the options" Oct 02 12:18:57 DocScrutinizer05: I think you lost me on that one Oct 02 12:19:18 apt: no, secure is Linux is secure, at least up to the administrator, heh. Generally nothing is inherently secure or insecure, one needs to have a threat model to evaluate all the options Oct 02 12:19:18 DocScrutinizer05: okay Oct 02 12:19:24 ~secure Oct 02 12:19:24 Linux is secure, at least up to the administrator, heh. Generally nothing is inherently secure or insecure, one needs to have a threat model to evaluate all the options **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 03 03:00:01 2018