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Oct 14 16:10:26 <genesis> according to http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/download/doc/README.txt 
Oct 14 16:10:50 <genesis> i should find GLLIN in http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/ ; but i can't figure where
Oct 14 16:52:40 <PaulFertser> genesis: eh, do you really need that?
Oct 14 16:53:33 <PaulFertser> genesis: it was oabi-only btw!
Oct 14 16:53:40 <PaulFertser> genesis: what's your target?
Oct 14 16:54:01 <genesis> tomtom one XL
Oct 14 16:54:36 <genesis> PaulFertser : we need an opensource driver for the hammerhead on opentom
Oct 14 16:56:11 <PaulFertser> genesis: I'm afraid it was never opensource.
Oct 14 16:57:33 <genesis> why not ?
Oct 14 16:57:44 <genesis> hard to find information about that stuff
Oct 14 16:58:13 <PaulFertser> genesis: the vendor never cooperated, and see e.g. https://unadventure.wordpress.com/2008/01/
Oct 14 16:58:30 <PaulFertser> genesis: you can download the ipk with binary from http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/download/?Accept=Accept
Oct 14 16:59:24 <PaulFertser> genesis: the note in README talks about the source location of free software "3rd party components"
Oct 14 16:59:58 <genesis> oki, it's why i suspected, i will documented this, fking broadcom.
Oct 14 17:02:55 <PaulFertser> genesis: http://iam.tj/projects/meif_protocol/research/Broadcom_BCM4751x_GNSS_driver.html if you want to start reverse-engineering and such.
Oct 14 17:03:36 <genesis> lot of down website ...
Oct 14 17:05:40 <PaulFertser> genesis: webarchive to the rescue
Oct 14 17:06:34 <PaulFertser> genesis: and that guy says he backed up the whole repository used by the now-defunct RE project Sphyrna. 
Oct 14 17:06:58 <genesis> yes i'm reading, thanks a lot for your hints.
Oct 14 17:07:31 <PaulFertser> genesis: good luck!
Oct 14 17:09:08 <PaulFertser> genesis: probably you can just run gllin binary in a chroot or something like that if you really need it. Do you want to run Navit on it?
Oct 14 17:10:04 <genesis> we run navit on tomtom, but we have to pick up the gltt gps driver from tomtom
Oct 14 17:10:47 <genesis> but we can't distribute it when we build system, would be better to have another stuff yes
Oct 14 17:11:06 <genesis> perharps using the gllin would be better since we can embedded it.
Oct 14 17:13:42 <genesis> i donno if gllin itself would be enough free distributable ( http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/download/doc/OPENMOKO_EULA_README_BEFORE_USING.txt )
Oct 14 17:17:26 <PaulFertser> genesis: here's his repo: https://gitorious.org/meif_protocol/meif_protocol/
Oct 14 17:22:20 <PaulFertser> genesis: you can "git clone https://gitorious.org/meif_protocol/meif_protocol.git"
Oct 14 17:23:50 <genesis> yeap but submodule is empty
Oct 14 17:24:26 <PaulFertser> genesis: yeah, checkout 6ac92d2daaf6ffc7ad055e89e04ba7a1cdab143c
Oct 14 17:25:08 <genesis> ho yes
Oct 14 17:26:41 <genesis> i get the ./research/sphyrna/sphyrna/doc/packet-format.txt
Oct 14 17:27:26 <PaulFertser> It looks like someone with enough dedication can continue from there but it's still helluva work ahead.
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