**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 05 02:59:56 2009 Aug 05 06:17:52 heh, looks like my sheevaplug has the wrong mac address printed on the sticker in the bottom. Aug 05 06:21:04 are the instructions to boot from a usb device current and safe to try? -> http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Multi-Boot Aug 05 06:23:16 do I paste the "USB Example" then the "NAND Variables" then followed by "bootcmd=run bootcmd_usb; run bootcmd_nand" ? Aug 05 06:41:56 how does bootcmd_usb find the kernel on the usb device? does it need grub installed for instance? Aug 05 06:45:52 u-boot has the drivers for usb and filesystems afaik Aug 05 06:49:05 How big is an Ubuntu server install? (I'm going to pick up SD cards and Flash Drives tomorrow for my plug that's on its way, so I have a few to putz with next week, trying to decide capacity) Aug 05 06:54:17 thanks e', I was wondering how it knows what kernel to boot though (I've got an Archmobile usb stick loaded up and it has a boot/uImage-GTA02.bin) ? Aug 05 06:54:52 well the example in the wiki says bootcmd_usb=setenv bootargs $(bootargs_usb); usb start; ext2load usb0:1 0x800000 /boot/uImage; bootm 0x800000 Aug 05 06:55:16 ah of course, thanks... whew Aug 05 06:55:16 i imagine the ext2load command specifies a ext2 partition and then there's a path /boot/uImage Aug 05 06:56:12 hmm, there is no kernel in /boot on the default ubuntu install Aug 05 06:57:16 and bootcmd=etc is automatically saved? Aug 05 06:58:44 no idea, i haven't really messed with u-boot yet. Aug 05 07:01:10 one would imagine there would be a mention of a saveconfig type command on the wiki so I'll go with what it says, as is, and change the link in my /boot to match Aug 05 07:02:25 there's a saveenv command at least Aug 05 07:05:22 ah thanks again Aug 05 07:11:56 bugger, none of those commands seem to exist (bootcmd_usb etc) so I guess the wiki is NOT referring to the default ubuntu install on NAND Aug 05 07:12:38 no saveenv either Aug 05 07:12:53 i think you're not in u-boot :) Aug 05 07:13:18 u-boot is the bootloader that runs before the operating system is started Aug 05 07:13:41 and I have no idea what that means, I only just got this plug and ssh in and updated the ubuntu install Aug 05 07:13:54 right, me google u-boot Aug 05 07:14:41 you get the u-boot prompt from the serial console when you turn on the plug and interrupt the default boot process Aug 05 07:14:45 it's like grub Aug 05 07:17:05 damn, does that mean I need some kind of usb serial cable? Aug 05 07:18:40 I found this, it's much more involved than I thought -> How to boot Sheevaplug from USB Storage Aug 05 07:18:49 How much space is free on the 512MB internal Flash, out of the box? Aug 05 07:19:02 * Q_Continuum is curious how much space is needed for an Ubuntu install Aug 05 07:19:04 markc: my plug at least came with the cable Aug 05 07:19:23 markc: it's the mini-usb plug next to the sd slot Aug 05 07:19:31 mini-usb socket i mean Aug 05 07:19:47 so *the* usb cable in the box will works as a serial vable as well? Aug 05 07:20:00 gotcha Aug 05 07:21:04 heh, damn short cable... and plug is over that aways and my computer is way over the other ways :) Aug 05 07:22:41 Q_Continuum, mine shows 342,948Mb free after and apt-get -u dist-upgrade Aug 05 07:22:58 ok, so base install is roughly 150MB. Aug 05 07:23:27 176Mb atm according to my df Aug 05 07:24:02 Anyone set up a local mirror of Ubuntu-PPC? I should start one, as I'll be in the boondocks all next week, with my plug. heh Aug 05 07:24:24 errr ARM Aug 05 07:24:37 I was going to say... :) Aug 05 07:24:48 sorry, got a Mac a few weeks ago :-P Aug 05 10:30:01 I have a serial connection to the plig and rebooted with a Marvel>> prompt but pasting in the commands from the wiki to boot from a usb device gives "Unknown command bootargs_usb=etc" ... am I on the right planet? Aug 05 10:30:14 plug* Aug 05 10:30:52 fsinfo gives mtdids not defined, no default present Aug 05 10:46:59 how do you show the env vars? Aug 05 10:47:21 doh printenv Aug 05 13:32:30 would anyone happen to have the original bootargs variable for a recent plug? (I copied mine but it seems I only got the first ~100 chars) Aug 05 13:36:06 markc: mine is currently stock, how can I read the info you're looking for? Aug 05 13:37:23 markc: from printenv output, I got this: bootargs=console=ttyS0,115200 mtdparts=nand_mtd:0x400000@0x100000(uImage),0x1fb00000@0x500000(rootfs) rw root=/dev/mtdblock1 rw ip=10.4.50.4:10.4.50.5:10.4.50.5:255.255.255.0:DB88FXX81:eth0:none Aug 05 13:38:08 py, thank you very much! Aug 05 13:38:25 markc, you're welcome Aug 05 13:39:20 I just got mine too and trying to boot from a usb stick Aug 05 13:39:35 ok Aug 05 13:40:34 I'm waiting for my MobileMMC cards to arrive to continue testing (that's half-length MMC, and as such, should be flush with the plug casing) Aug 05 13:43:03 good point, I wasn't aware of such card, thanks for the tip Aug 05 13:44:01 they are sometimes advertised as RS-MMC (for reduced size) Aug 05 13:44:57 only downside is that they don't come higher that 2Gigs (or at least I was not able to locate any). For me its way enough, but may not the the case for everybody Aug 05 13:48:03 I could live with 2gb Aug 05 13:48:25 say, would you mind if I compared a few variables with your defaults? Aug 05 13:49:00 I'll pastebin the whole shebang, wait 1sec Aug 05 13:49:57 here you are: http://pastebin.ca/1519199 Aug 05 13:50:06 that'd be cool.. I've gone and messed up booting to the default ubuntu... beginners luck :) Aug 05 13:50:22 thank you yet again! Aug 05 13:50:33 you're still welcome ;-) Aug 05 13:50:47 heh Aug 05 14:00:31 doh, there is a resetenv command, I presume it does what it says and made for dummies like me Aug 05 14:09:18 woops, resetenv is for a tftp boot Aug 05 15:04:46 markc: Aug 05 15:11:24 markc: http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Main_Page Aug 05 15:12:15 also look at the first 4 pinned articles http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?board=1.0 Aug 05 17:16:45 tinker-f595: it's much more useful to fix a broken plug yourself rather than just run an installer that automagically fixes it for you Aug 05 17:16:54 if only because then you actually learn something from it Aug 05 17:17:37 and by the time people are looking for U-Boot variables Aug 05 17:17:45 it's a pretty safe bet that they know how the boot process works Aug 05 17:40:31 Hi. I'm doing some hacking on an OpenRD board, and have been joining the dots between the source that came with it, and where/what the current mainline code for it is. One thing that's still not quite clear to me yet, is should this be using MACH_TYPE_RD88F6281, or has support for it actually been merged with the MACH_TYPE_SHEEVAPLUG tree? Aug 05 17:44:27 some of the docs on open-rd.org seem to suggest the latter, but I don't have a sheeva and didn't think the harware was exactly the same Aug 05 22:23:04 so the installer is failing on both of my linux boxes Aug 05 22:23:11 on the 64 bit one, it can't find the Sheevaplug Aug 05 22:23:17 and on the 32 bit one, it segfaults Aug 05 22:23:19 ergh **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 06 02:59:57 2009