**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 21 02:59:59 2009
Oct 21 04:10:10 <Chunky_Ks> Evening all
Oct 21 04:10:46 <Chunky_Ks> I just picked up an SD card, and I'd like to put an image onto it so I can boot my plug from it
Oct 21 04:12:22 <Chunky_Ks> Is there somewhere that I could find a variety of pre-cooked complete distro images for the plug?
Oct 21 04:13:18 <mwester> wiki -- at the urls in the channel topic.
Oct 21 04:17:33 <Chunky_Ks> yeah, I've bene looking
Oct 21 04:17:49 <Chunky_Ks> lots of instructions on how to build images
Oct 21 04:17:57 <Chunky_Ks> all of them start with "first, compile a kernel?
Oct 21 04:18:21 <Chunky_Ks> I was hoping for something a bit simpler as a "here's somethign quick to try"
Oct 21 04:29:29 <mwester> http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Fedora-ARM_Plug_Computer_Distribution  <---- that's what I've been running.
Oct 21 04:30:35 <mwester> I've booted that from flash, USB, and SD. :)
Oct 21 04:30:41 <mwester> oh - and NFS
Oct 21 04:32:21 <Chunky_Ks> ... oh, hey
Oct 21 04:32:46 <Chunky_Ks> the curent pluginstaller installs ubifs and includes a whole bunch of modules that I really need - kinda the reason I Was messing with this in the first place was those modules and ubifs
Oct 21 05:24:04 <Chunky_Ks> ok, so I've run the installer and it said it succesfully installed the new bootloader
Oct 21 05:24:10 <Chunky_Ks> I'm using linux on my host PC
Oct 21 05:24:24 <Chunky_Ks> but I'm confused as to exactly how to connect the serial plug so I can read what's going on
Oct 21 05:26:44 <Chunky_Ks> http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Setting_up_Serial_Console_Under_Linux
Oct 21 05:26:48 <Chunky_Ks> I read that
Oct 21 05:26:50 <Chunky_Ks> but it's just not working
Oct 21 05:27:37 <Chunky_Ks> there's no /dev/ttyUSB* device appearing
Oct 21 05:33:31 <Vratha> hi
Oct 21 05:33:45 <Vratha> anyone tried putting freebsd on the sheevaplug?  i'm wondering what utility i would use to write the NAND flash
Oct 21 05:35:11 <arachnist> Vratha: that's the problem - you either write it from linux, load it from pxe or attach a pendrive/hdd to the usb
Oct 21 05:35:26 <arachnist> (unless there's something i don't know about)
Oct 21 05:35:27 <Vratha> :(
Oct 21 05:35:41 <Vratha> heh, i can't even get it booting the installed linux anymore... i screwed up the boot params
Oct 21 05:35:52 <Vratha> wiki doesn't seem to be helping with the proper uboot params
Oct 21 05:36:38 <arachnist> fun
Oct 21 05:36:40 <Chunky_Ks> Man, this sucks
Oct 21 05:36:47 <Chunky_Ks> I got it all working but I can't find a usb thumbdrive
Oct 21 05:37:33 <Chunky_Ks> and it doesn't seem to want to read stuff off my USB plugin drive
Oct 21 05:37:39 <arachnist> Chunky_Ks: you can use a card reader
Oct 21 05:37:55 <arachnist> Chunky_Ks: and stuck an sd/mmc/memorystick in it
Oct 21 05:38:12 <Chunky_Ks> yeah. and I can't find my cardreader either
Oct 21 05:38:22 <Chunky_Ks> [we moved recently and still unpacking]
Oct 21 05:39:05 <arachnist> i've got one which works perfectly well with openrd-client (as in - can put a kernel on it on a readable filesystem and it loads it fine from it)
Oct 21 05:39:40 <arachnist> (and i don't think openrd and sheevaplug differ much in that regard)
Oct 21 05:40:14 <Vratha> well
Oct 21 05:40:26 <Vratha> this plug computer likes to give me issues
Oct 21 05:40:33 <Vratha> at least until i get debian or something finally working on it
Oct 21 05:59:47 <Chunky_Ks> woo
Oct 21 05:59:54 <Chunky_Ks> fdisk'd the usb drive
Oct 21 06:00:00 <Chunky_Ks> to jkust have a 1G partition at the top of it
Oct 21 06:00:12 <Chunky_Ks> and uboot figured it out
Oct 21 06:33:18 <tinker-f595> Vratha: see http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Main_Page  and http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/New_Plugger_How_To
Oct 21 06:33:43 <tinker-f595> and http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Category:HowTo
Oct 21 08:31:37 <yacoob> has anyone here, by mere chance, been running Debian on QNAP TS-209?
Oct 21 08:32:55 <ron__> that doesn't seem like a likely thing to happen by "mere chance" ;)
Oct 21 08:33:08 <ron__> someone may have done it deliberately though ...
Oct 21 08:42:32 <yacoob> yes, 'mere chance' is referring to the low chance of having a person like that on this channel :D
Oct 21 10:23:34 <unrealMac> anyone know if it's possible to reset the sheevaplug via the serial console ?
Oct 21 10:24:15 <eFfeM> unrealMac: if you can log in over serial, just log in as root and issue the command reboot (or halt if you only want to halt)
Oct 21 10:24:31 <eFfeM> otherwise through openocd you can connect to jtag and restart
Oct 21 10:24:31 <unrealMac> i'm trying to boot a new kernel and it's got stuck, would be nice to reset before getting home this evening :)
Oct 21 10:24:54 <eFfeM> oh, i thought reset as in reboot
Oct 21 10:25:10 <eFfeM> if you fried the thing look in the wiki for the recovery procedure
Oct 21 10:25:23 <unrealMac> reset as in "it's crashed, i need to reset" ;)
Oct 21 10:25:58 <unrealMac> i just need to change uboot setting, i don't need to recover
Oct 21 10:26:19 <unrealMac> which i can't do since it's crashed
Oct 21 10:26:41 <unrealMac> how does one connect to jtag ?
Oct 21 10:32:08 <eFfeM> if you want to change uboot setting just connect to serial, press the reset button with a paperclip and hit space in the console during u-boot starting
Oct 21 10:32:38 <eFfeM> connect to jtag is the same serial cable, but you need openocd, it is a little bit more complicated
Oct 21 10:32:49 <unrealMac> "would be nice to reset before getting home this evening"
Oct 21 10:33:08 <unrealMac> i'm at work
Oct 21 10:34:50 <zecrazytux> does anybody tried to run NetBSD on the sheevaplug or openrd ?
Oct 21 10:37:07 <unrealMac> been using freebsd on it, i don't think netbsd or openbsd are supported yet
Oct 21 10:39:01 <unrealMac> and to be honest, freebsd is a little unreliable so far
Oct 21 10:39:23 <unrealMac> bad ethernet performance, various crashes
Oct 21 21:03:06 <ajorg> hi folks, I'm getting 100% CPU on syslogd, then if I kill that I get 100% CPU on pdflush
Oct 21 21:03:18 <ajorg> also even touching a file takes several minutes
Oct 21 21:03:22 <ajorg> any help?
Oct 21 21:22:56 <ajorg> i do have some swap on a USB drive, maybe that's a very bad thing?
Oct 21 21:26:14 <darkstar62> is this on a sheevaplug or openrd?
Oct 21 21:26:23 <darkstar62> and what kernel are you using?
Oct 21 21:30:09 <ajorg> darkstar62: sheevaplug
Oct 21 21:30:18 <ajorg> Linux arm-linux-2 2.6.22.18 #1 Thu Mar 19 14:46:22 IST 2009 armv5tejl GNU/Linux
Oct 21 21:30:24 <darkstar62> ok, stock
Oct 21 21:30:27 <ajorg> (ubuntu 9.04)
Oct 21 21:30:29 <ajorg> yeah
Oct 21 21:30:36 <darkstar62> are you running off internal flash or SD?
Oct 21 21:30:41 <darkstar62> or usb?
Oct 21 21:30:45 <ajorg> running off flash
Oct 21 21:30:54 <ajorg> usb disk is just for extra disk space
Oct 21 21:31:01 <darkstar62> ah, i see
Oct 21 21:31:11 <darkstar62> hmm...does dmesg give you any errors?
Oct 21 21:31:28 <ajorg> nope, there's nothing interesting there
Oct 21 21:31:49 <darkstar62> and you've got plenty of space free on the flash?
Oct 21 21:32:12 <ajorg> rootfs                507M  214M  294M  43% /
Oct 21 21:32:23 <darkstar62> yeah, I think that qualifies as plenty
Oct 21 21:32:53 <ajorg> so i turned off the swap and it seems to be running better
Oct 21 21:32:55 <darkstar62> does your load average go through the roof during the 100% usage time?
Oct 21 21:33:12 <darkstar62> hmm, interesting
Oct 21 21:33:25 <ajorg> i didn't look at load avg per-se
Oct 21 21:33:35 <darkstar62> yeah, I run swapless
Oct 21 21:33:43 <ajorg> but basically i can't get anything done
Oct 21 21:33:53 <darkstar62> yeah, I'd bet it's high then
Oct 21 21:33:58 <ajorg> we had some problems without swap which i hoped that would aleviate
Oct 21 21:35:12 <darkstar62> did you happen to see what your free memory was when it was doing this?
Oct 21 21:35:44 <ajorg> i didn't take note of the memory usage, but only 60m of swap was in use
Oct 21 21:36:31 <darkstar62> might take a look through top next time it does it -- see if syslogd is in D state, and how much memory it's taking up (and all other tasks for that matter)
Oct 21 21:36:40 <darkstar62> kinda sounds like it was swapping like crazy due to little free memory
Oct 21 21:36:54 <ajorg> could be
Oct 21 21:37:15 <ajorg> I'm gonna try running it w/o swap for a while and hope for the best
Oct 21 21:37:26 <darkstar62> what do you run on it?
Oct 21 21:37:57 <ajorg> we build mono for arm
Oct 21 21:38:10 <ajorg> (i'm the novell mono build guy)
Oct 21 21:38:11 <darkstar62> ah, that'll run you low on memory
Oct 21 21:38:16 <ajorg> yeah, it will
Oct 21 21:38:35 <ajorg> i don't suppose we can expand this thing to 1gb?
Oct 21 21:38:53 <darkstar62> which, the swap memory?
Oct 21 21:38:55 <darkstar62> or the flash?
Oct 21 21:39:02 <ajorg> ram
Oct 21 21:39:06 <darkstar62> oh, right
Oct 21 21:39:21 <darkstar62> no way I know of -- I think the chips are soldered on
Oct 21 21:39:33 <ajorg> ah, well this is still way better than where we were
Oct 21 21:39:53 <ajorg> are there newer kernels i can try (already compiled for me)?
Oct 21 21:40:07 <darkstar62> I think there are -- you might look around the openplug forums to see
Oct 21 21:40:16 <darkstar62> I think the latest installer for sheevaplug includes the newest kernel
Oct 21 21:40:38 <ajorg> I get the installer from marvell?
Oct 21 21:40:46 <darkstar62> it'll definitely help i/o issues -- I upgraded to get better SD card performance, and it was night-and-day
Oct 21 21:40:52 <darkstar62> it's on the wiki I think
Oct 21 21:40:53 <ajorg> cool
Oct 21 21:41:12 <ajorg> thanks for your help!
Oct 21 21:41:32 <darkstar62> I still can't do a git checkout to SD card without it taking a long time and sending my load really high, but it's a lot faster than it was
Oct 21 21:41:32 <darkstar62> np
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