**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 04 02:59:57 2010 Jan 04 07:37:14 is it a good idea to use a class 6 sd card on my sheevaplug ( on which I use gentoo ) as a mailserver/webserver and other stuff ? Jan 04 07:37:37 a 16G one .. Jan 04 07:38:04 why not? Jan 04 07:38:16 mmm, as long as you mostly read and not write Jan 04 07:39:26 BlackBishop: avoid journaling as it puts excessive wear on the card. I would point you at some technical articles regarding that but I am about to go to sleep Jan 04 07:39:38 night Jan 04 07:40:00 sleepy tight Jan 04 07:40:05 so .. no ext3/4 Jan 04 07:40:24 oh I run my sheevaplug using an external hard drive in an USB enclosure Jan 04 07:40:35 so do I Jan 04 07:40:54 but I plan on using that usb port to get rid of my wireless AP Jan 04 07:41:34 I'll stick in a Asus WL-167G .. bye bye router, and an 16G class 6 card ... bye bye hdd Jan 04 16:14:02 reading buffer. I use ext2 formatted sd card on nokia 770, just to not wear it with journaling. someone could say otherwise, as they are cheap. Jan 04 16:14:39 still works after years, with not so heavy usage. Jan 04 20:42:45 Good evening all. I just got a SheevaPlug. I bought an 8GB SDHC card with the intention of booting from it, to preserve the NAND memory, but it's obviously(sic) formatted in fat32. Should I format in EXT2 or EXT3? Jan 04 20:43:05 Journaling is nice, but I suspect it would shorten the card's lifespan Jan 04 20:47:24 * Brandano wonders if anyone here is a human rather than a plug listening for commands... Jan 04 20:47:36 lol Jan 04 20:47:46 Brandano: depends on the value of the data, and yes, journalling might reduce the lifespan but if it reduces from 5 to 3 years who cares Jan 04 20:47:51 Brandano: yes, thats what ppl tend to say Jan 04 20:48:00 (not that i know what the lifetime would be) Jan 04 20:48:20 well, ideally most of the actual data crunching would be on an external drive Jan 04 20:48:45 just ordered an 8gb cl 6 micro sdhc card for eur 15.20 so in two years they will probably < eur 10 Jan 04 20:48:50 the card would really be for the OS and installed packages Jan 04 20:49:04 eFfeM: or maybe they don't make of that size anymore :) Jan 04 20:49:11 hm, for performance i would put the packages on the hard disk Jan 04 20:49:11 the one I got was more expensive, but cl 10 Jan 04 20:49:33 armin76: might be (but you still can get 4 and even 2 today) Jan 04 20:49:41 if the plug can keep up with it, should be faster than any USB HD Jan 04 20:50:09 Brandano: for read maybe, for write definitely not, depends also on the speed of your card and your hd Jan 04 20:50:16 if you really want speed go for a good ssd Jan 04 20:50:19 not that it should read or write much to it. Jan 04 20:50:21 $$$ though Jan 04 20:50:58 is it worth to add an external swap partition too? Jan 04 20:51:41 well, this is going to be just a "wake my pc, keep downloading from bittorrent" plug Jan 04 20:52:52 Hmm, could also be a good way to provide a permanent seed for stuff like CVS builds of FlightGear Jan 04 20:54:11 I've had a NSLU2 running on a SD card for about 3 years, ext3. It only does openvpn mostly, and some fileserver from a HD. Still working Jan 04 20:55:08 k, I think I'll format ext3 then. Jan 04 20:55:52 2nd question, seen as I am going to have an USB2 drive attached to the USB port, would it be useful to have a swap partition on it? Jan 04 21:03:34 if you only want to download a torrent no swap is needed, if you have a usb hd attached to it of course it does not harm to sacrifice a gig or so Jan 04 21:03:51 you can always do that Jan 04 21:04:15 calling it a day :-) Jan 04 21:04:36 can easily sacrifice 2 or 3 gig as well Jan 04 21:04:41 HD space is cheap Jan 04 21:40:36 Heya all Jan 04 21:40:58 When are those finalists for CES meant to be announced? Jan 04 22:03:32 whoa! 10 to 15 sec boot time! Jan 04 22:04:24 oh? Jan 04 22:04:35 booting from SD Jan 04 22:04:49 a fast SD Jan 04 22:05:53 btw, what's the cleanest way to shut down? Jan 04 22:06:00 class 10, nice Jan 04 22:06:03 shutdown -t0 now ? Jan 04 22:06:03 sudo halt? Jan 04 22:06:52 * Brandano still only has the root user Jan 04 22:07:07 I have to disable SSH for root, ad an SSH user and a key pair Jan 04 22:07:19 *add Jan 04 22:08:41 Very nice toy, I must say. I think I'll take another one to run ASSP at work Jan 04 22:09:14 I'd recommend mounting it noatime anyway Jan 04 22:09:22 yep, did that Jan 04 22:09:34 expecially since I formatted it ext3 Jan 04 22:10:18 though I sincerely can't remember how to use vim... it's been too long. So I ended up echoing my lines to fstab :) Jan 04 22:10:43 it's odd that it will boot even though the card doesn't have the "bootable" flag Jan 04 22:10:58 use nano, no shame in that Jan 04 22:11:15 haven't got a network connection right now Jan 04 22:11:28 so I had to do with what was on the plug already Jan 04 22:12:02 adding a switch would mean unplugging this PC from the net for a few seconds... Jan 04 22:12:25 or I could try to temporarily add an USB WIFI dongle Jan 04 23:04:19 Chunky_Ks: finalists of what? Jan 04 23:08:41 armin76: this: http://openplug.org/index.php/us/events/ces-2010-plug-computing-pavilion Jan 04 23:18:13 armin76: what trip said **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 05 01:02:38 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 05 02:59:56 2010