**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 04 02:59:57 2010
Feb 04 05:24:06 <rektide> damn it got quiet in here. :/
Feb 04 17:40:00 <bncapps> hey
Feb 04 17:40:25 <bncapps> I am having such a hard time getting my entire thing installed onto my SD card and using that o boot off, i tried following some guide I found but nothing seems to work, can anyone point me in the right directon?
Feb 04 17:48:12 <chemicaloliver> bncapps: well which point doesn't work, what are you trying to install and which guide are you using,
Feb 04 17:48:28 <bncapps> I was trying to follow this tutorial: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/install.html
Feb 04 17:48:36 <bncapps> it says i need to run the setenv commands and stuff, but NO COMMANDS WORK
Feb 04 17:48:42 <bncapps> they just say unrecongnized command
Feb 04 17:49:06 <bncapps> Is that the wrong tutorial to follow?
Feb 04 17:52:54 <chemicaloliver> well I followed that a while ago so it should work
Feb 04 17:53:57 <bncapps> None of the commands work, it says setenv is not a command
Feb 04 17:54:06 <bncapps> and i just let it boot in fully and mmcinit dosnt even work
Feb 04 17:54:46 <chemicaloliver> you are using a serial console to type and setenv commands? and you are definitely interupting uboot to get the uboot console?
Feb 04 17:55:18 <bncapps> yeah using serial cable
Feb 04 17:55:21 <bncapps> it says press any key to interupt
Feb 04 17:55:26 <bncapps> i press it, and it says boot interupted and then i can type
Feb 04 17:55:39 <chemicaloliver> that sounds right
Feb 04 17:56:12 <bncapps> ohh i just tried again and setenv seems to wanna work!
Feb 04 17:57:06 <bncapps> do i interupt again to load the installer?
Feb 04 17:58:06 <chemicaloliver> if you've told it where to find the boot image then I think you can just carry on with the next bit without restarting
Feb 04 17:58:36 <bncapps> i just changed environment variables, then did reset, now i need to load the installer off the sd card, but im assuming i let that boot in fully to do that, i dont interupt and do it?
Feb 04 18:00:12 <chemicaloliver> ah sorry yes you do I was misreading it, you interupt in the same way as before
Feb 04 18:00:55 <chemicaloliver> (you should probably trust the instructions over me :P they were made by a debain-arm developer!)
Feb 04 18:02:05 <bncapps> well it dosnt say in the instructions if i do it when i stop the boot
Feb 04 18:02:14 <bncapps> hmmm, mmcinit: "Unknown command mmcinit" :/
Feb 04 18:03:33 <chemicaloliver> you did do the upgrade of uboot before you started?
Feb 04 18:03:39 <bncapps> ummmmm
Feb 04 18:03:54 <bncapps> ask me again in about 2 minutes :)
Feb 04 18:08:54 <bncapps> It seems to hang on scanning bus for storage devices
Feb 04 18:09:39 <chemicaloliver> is this when you're trying to upgrade uboot,or after?
Feb 04 18:09:53 <bncapps> trying to upgrade, i got the new uboot onto my usb, ran usb start
Feb 04 18:09:59 <bncapps> it finds 2 usb devices
Feb 04 18:10:12 <bncapps> now its stuck on "scanning bus for storage devices...T "
Feb 04 18:10:14 <bncapps> and yes, that T is in there
Feb 04 18:12:31 <chemicaloliver> I'm afraid I'm out of useful suggestions....
Feb 04 18:13:21 <bncapps> hmmm not matter what it just seems to hang
Feb 04 18:13:23 <bncapps> ill try a differnt usb
Feb 04 18:14:48 <cemc> what's the eSATA speed on the plugs? (i know I asked, but my irc client crashed in the meantime)
Feb 04 18:15:44 <bncapps> aha! this usb stick dosnt hang
Feb 04 18:15:45 <bncapps> success
Feb 04 18:16:15 <bncapps> invalid fat entry?
Feb 04 18:16:20 <chemicaloliver> cemc: I'm not sure that anyone answered
Feb 04 18:16:22 <bncapps> oh, fat file system on usb, that explains it
Feb 04 18:24:37 <bncapps> It says format to the FAT file system...is FAT32 the same? Or must it be just FAT?
Feb 04 18:29:48 <chemicaloliver> I don't know, I used linux where there is only one option
Feb 04 18:30:32 <bncapps> I just get "Invalid Fat Entry 4096 bytes read" when i try fatload usb 0:1 0x0800000 uboot.bin :/
Feb 04 18:30:59 <chemicaloliver> well then I guess fat is worth a try then
Feb 04 18:31:09 <bncapps> I tried fat32 by formatting through windows, then FATR
Feb 04 18:31:12 <bncapps> through my mac
Feb 04 18:31:17 <bncapps> the option in my windows only lets fat32
Feb 04 18:31:25 <bncapps> mac only lets FAT or the mac type
Feb 04 18:33:11 <chemicaloliver> there are some different instructions on the openplug wiki http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/SheevaPlug_Installer#Release_version_1.0
Feb 04 18:33:44 <bncapps> this installs the new uboot thing that i need?
Feb 04 18:36:27 <chemicaloliver> as far as I remember yes, but it's probably worth a look around first, I can't fully remember what I did but I know I knew not much about it before I started and managed to do it first try by reading the guides on openplug and the site you said
Feb 04 18:36:54 <bncapps> kk, ill give this a shot since the other way is not working at all...thanks, ill let you know how it goes
Feb 04 18:38:00 <chemicaloliver> I think the way in that wiki updates uboot then reflashes a more recent ubuntu version
Feb 04 18:38:10 <bncapps> yeah, the download is 145mb
Feb 04 18:38:14 <bncapps> so im assuming it does it all at once
Feb 04 18:38:21 <chemicaloliver> after which you should be able to install debian as per the other instructions
Feb 04 18:38:31 <bncapps> which OS do you use?
Feb 04 18:38:38 <chemicaloliver> linux
Feb 04 18:38:40 <bncapps> i know but
Feb 04 18:38:43 <bncapps> which build?
Feb 04 18:38:50 <bncapps> for the plug
Feb 04 18:39:03 <chemicaloliver> ubuntu karmic 32 bit
Feb 04 18:39:06 <bncapps> im looking for the one with the most compatibility
Feb 04 18:39:23 <bncapps> hmmm, should i put ubuntu or debian on mine?
Feb 04 18:39:35 <chemicaloliver> oh sorry on sheevaplug i use debian
Feb 04 18:40:21 <bncapps> ah ok
Feb 04 18:40:29 <chemicaloliver> debian I use the version installed by that first tutorial
Feb 04 18:40:51 <bncapps> kk, ill just follow this so it installs ubuntu, then ill change to debisn
Feb 04 18:41:05 <bncapps> by the sounds of it, it downloads the installation files needed on the fly for installing debian?
Feb 04 18:41:06 <chemicaloliver> the ubuntu arm distro has stopped supporting the sheevaplug in more recent versions but debian is carrying on
Feb 04 18:41:16 <chemicaloliver> yes I think so
Feb 04 18:44:15 <bncapps> "CRC read error on uboot-env:bin: No error" after i run the command
Feb 04 18:44:17 <bncapps> im assuming thats ok
Feb 04 18:46:21 <bncapps> screw it
Feb 04 18:46:30 <bncapps> time to do it on my linux comouter
Feb 04 19:01:12 <bncapps> cant even get the serial to work on ubuntu
Feb 04 19:02:19 <chemicaloliver> how are you trying?
Feb 04 19:03:18 <bncapps> through putty on ubuntu
Feb 04 19:03:27 <bncapps> and the iwndows installer gets an error
Feb 04 19:03:38 <bncapps> in command.c on line 469
Feb 04 19:04:21 <bncapps> the windows one says this: "unable to open ftdi interface: device not found"
Feb 04 19:05:33 <chemicaloliver> I've never tried it in windows
Feb 04 19:06:49 <bncapps> in windos it just pauses at this stage until i close this app it opens, but then it erros
Feb 04 19:06:50 <bncapps> hmm
Feb 04 19:08:10 <bncapps> ughh this sucks, nothing works
Feb 04 19:17:45 <bncapps> Empty flash at 0x0d44d50c ends at 0x0d44d800
Feb 04 19:17:45 <bncapps> jffs2_scan_inode_node(): CRC failed on node at 0x0e154fc0: Read 0xffffffff, calc
Feb 04 19:17:45 <bncapps> ulated 0x0cec145e
Feb 04 19:17:45 <bncapps> Empty flash at 0x0e15502c ends at 0x0e155800
Feb 04 19:17:46 <bncapps> Empty flash at 0x1389c35c ends at 0x1389c800
Feb 04 19:17:52 <bncapps> when i connected to serial after a reboot i saw that :o
Feb 04 19:17:58 <bncapps> (never did get the upgraded uboot installed)
Feb 04 19:28:08 <bncapps> cant even get it installed through a TFTP server
Feb 04 19:34:26 <kblin> bncapps: my plug is running the 9.04 ubuntu arm install provided by marvell
Feb 04 19:34:55 <kblin> I had no problems using the serial connection, but it only worked with the supplied cable iirc
Feb 04 19:34:56 <bncapps> but that does not help me in upgrading uboot
Feb 04 19:35:02 <bncapps> the serial connection works
Feb 04 19:35:05 <bncapps> i just can not get uboot upgraded
Feb 04 19:35:20 <bncapps> i tried loading it off a usb, gets a FAT error, tried off a TFTP server, and it also errors
Feb 04 19:35:28 <bncapps> i tried using the sheevaplug installer, but it gets an error
Feb 04 19:35:47 <kblin> oh, you're trying to upgrade uboot, I managed to miss that, nm then
Feb 04 19:38:01 <bncapps> yeah lol
Feb 04 19:44:39 <bncapps> oh, 8gb is too bit for FAT
Feb 04 19:44:48 <bncapps> but this other usb is 15mb and it goes to fAT but seems to mess up still
Feb 04 19:44:53 <bncapps> i cant believe i have a 15mb stick
Feb 04 19:51:46 <bncapps> my plug dosnt even boot properly
Feb 04 19:59:12 <bncapps> good idea to try and do a recovery?
Feb 04 20:07:28 <Md> connect the console
Feb 04 20:36:05 <bncapps> I dont know what ot do, it dosnt properly boot
Feb 04 20:36:09 <bncapps> it just has all this random code
Feb 04 20:36:17 <bncapps> and i cant even upgrade uboot to properly restore it
Feb 04 20:44:02 <Md> then I recommend you sell the sheevaplug, because you do not have the linux experience required to use it
Feb 04 20:58:03 <bncapps> oh i do
Feb 04 20:58:08 <bncapps> its just that its not properly working
Feb 04 20:58:16 <bncapps> the uboot refuses to update
Feb 04 20:58:19 <bncapps> ive tried all the methods
Feb 04 21:49:31 <bncapps> YESSS
Feb 04 21:49:33 <bncapps> IT WORKED WITH THIS USB@
Feb 04 22:04:44 <bncapps> Im booting the loaders off my SD card, then im trying to install the OS onto the same SD card and its erroring
Feb 04 22:04:53 <bncapps> is it because im loading the files off it too and its trying to partition it?
Feb 04 22:05:49 <bncapps> ah ok that was it, loaded files off usb, installed to sd and it seems to be going
Feb 04 23:19:12 <bncapps> trying to install lighttpd and I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Feb 04 23:19:12 <bncapps> - any idea? I dont get what the problem is, i use to have it installed fine before i upgrded everything
Feb 04 23:19:46 <bncapps> oh it seems to be a problem starting it, says port 80 is already in use
Feb 04 23:19:47 <bncapps> thats wierd
Feb 04 23:24:50 <chemicaloliver> bncapps: I have had that problem with lighthttpd, I ended up switching to apache to cure it, I never found what was wrong with lighthttpd, might be a bug...
Feb 04 23:25:25 <bncapps> hmm apache wont install, i think ill just change the port to 8080
Feb 04 23:26:40 <Md> if it complains that port 80 is in use, then it is
Feb 04 23:27:15 <bncapps> does it mean inuse on the device, or the network?
Feb 04 23:32:09 <bncapps> yep, installing apache worked fine for me too
Feb 04 23:32:42 <bncapps> can java apps be run on this thing?
Feb 04 23:35:06 <Md> obviously on the device
Feb 04 23:35:18 <Md> apache is not a great choice because it's too bloated
Feb 04 23:35:47 <bncapps> yeah i know that, but it keeps insisting port 80 is in use
Feb 04 23:35:54 <bncapps> ill try uninstalling apache, rebooting, then lighttpd
Feb 04 23:42:51 <bncapps> yep, cant get it to install
Feb 04 23:43:01 <bncapps> closing the apache2 service, then starting lighttpd and it says port 80 in use
Feb 05 00:25:30 <chemicaloliver> I think there is a bug in the default setup oflighttpd I used netstat and every possible way i could find of seeing ports in use and it didn't work but apache worked first time on port 80
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