**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 19 02:59:57 2010
May 19 05:17:05 <ulterior> are there temp sensors on the plug? I cant find how to monitor them id there are.
May 19 05:18:19 <DogBoy> cat /proc/cpu
May 19 05:18:25 <DogBoy> I don't see any mention of temp though
May 19 05:18:30 <ulterior> yeah
May 19 05:19:28 <DogBoy> not sure what the point would be anyway
May 19 05:19:46 <DogBoy> it's designed to run fanless
May 19 05:19:56 <DogBoy> so it's not gonna be getting super hot
May 19 06:01:09 <muedhiver> hi
May 19 06:04:27 <muedhiver> just got a guruplug on saturday morning, I'm quite satisfied but a bit inquirying by the global temperature of the device, is it the same with Sheevaplug ?
May 19 06:05:11 <muedhiver> by the way throwing some sensors-detect hang the system
May 19 06:05:30 <kblin> muedhiver: my sheeva feels pretty warm as well
May 19 06:05:41 <kblin> but it's running fine for almost a year now
May 19 06:06:53 <muedhiver> ok perfect so
May 19 06:07:30 <kblin> have you tested network io performance with your guruplug?
May 19 06:08:08 <muedhiver> no I've thrown all my services from an old 2002 gentoo server into it
May 19 06:08:38 <muedhiver> and shutdown the old mobo so :)
May 19 06:09:38 <kblin> ah, ok
May 19 06:10:48 <kblin> time to get to work
May 19 06:11:34 <muedhiver> so have a nice day
May 19 06:11:45 <muedhiver> blb
May 19 06:54:02 <NightMonkey> DogBoy: Well, it's *supposed* to not get super hot, but it is quite hot. I'd like to know if there are sensors available, too. :)
May 19 06:55:10 <NightMonkey> I guess I need to get one of those remote temperature sensing "guns".
May 19 07:30:08 <DogBoy> heh
May 19 07:30:14 <DogBoy> quite hot
May 19 07:41:07 <NightMonkey> muedhiver: I had the same result with sensors-detect as you with my Guruplug Server+.
May 19 07:41:35 <NightMonkey> muedhiver: However, I wonder if the kernel is properly set up to use the sensors these devices may have (if any).
May 19 07:45:50 <NightMonkey> Gnight, all.
May 19 08:07:19 <jzaw> lo ... is there an easy way to migrate a sd install to usb floppy disk
May 19 08:07:35 <jzaw> id like to simply clone the installation to hd and reboot on usb
May 19 08:07:59 <jzaw> if i dd an 8GB sd card to a 40GB hd ... i lose 32GB ;)
May 19 13:24:51 <Tootoot222> jzaw: you can just rsync it
May 19 13:25:29 <Tootoot222> # rsync -avp / /media/USB -exclude '/media/USB'
May 19 17:28:43 <jzaw> Tootoot222: thanks for that info
May 19 17:29:18 <jzaw> do i have to do owt to the sheeva to make it look to the usb for booting?
May 19 17:29:32 <jzaw> at the mo it boots from sd card
May 19 17:33:05 <PhotoJim> setenv bootcmd_usb 'usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x0800000 /boot/uInitrd; ext2load usb 0:1 0x400000 /boot/uImage'
May 19 17:33:08 <PhotoJim> setenv bootcmd 'setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console); run bootcmd_usb; bootm 0x400000 0x0800000'
May 19 17:33:11 <PhotoJim> saveenv
May 19 17:33:14 <PhotoJim> that's what I did
May 19 17:36:12 <jzaw> thanks PhotoJim and thats at marvel prompt (hit a key at boot time to get to the prompt)
May 19 17:36:31 <jzaw> then issue the command boot
May 19 17:36:33 <jzaw> yes?
May 19 17:37:24 <PhotoJim> yes... it's been several months since I did it.  but this is done at the PROM prompt on the Sheeva console.
May 19 17:38:24 <jzaw> cool
May 19 17:38:36 <jzaw> im running zoneminder and it writes a lot of files
May 19 17:38:41 <jzaw> so i dont want to wear out the sd card
May 19 17:38:56 <jzaw> not to mention the need for many gigs for storage
May 19 17:39:11 <jzaw> ive just been weather proofing my webcams
May 19 17:39:31 <jzaw> so i can fit them on the soffits tonight
May 19 17:41:40 <PhotoJim> I don't use the built-in flash at all and my SD slot is empty.  I use a USB hard disk.
May 19 17:42:01 <PhotoJim> but my application needs about a terabyte of space (remote backup for my home server).
May 19 17:43:45 <jzaw> ah yes
May 19 17:44:04 <jzaw> im starting with a spare 40gb 2.5" ive got
May 19 17:44:18 <jzaw> later ill add a 500gb .. they are about £50 or less these days
May 19 17:44:53 <jzaw> the only problem ive got is that ive got 3 webcams and a usb drive to go off the usb port so ive got to use a powered hub for that
May 19 17:45:07 * PhotoJim nods
May 19 17:45:15 <jzaw> without the usb drive the 3 cams are quite happy on an unpowered hub straight off the sheeva
May 19 17:45:15 <PhotoJim> for a 2.5" enclosure, a powered hub is recommended anyway
May 19 17:45:33 <jzaw> aye
May 19 17:45:49 <jzaw> or for the enclosure to be powered anyway (some are)
May 19 17:45:53 <PhotoJim> right.
May 19 17:46:30 <jzaw> shame the sheeva has the psu internally .. cos it would be cool to have a splitter on a powerbrick and power the two devices that way
May 19 17:46:40 <jzaw> saving plugs and psu's
May 19 17:47:10 <PhotoJim> there are other devices you could do that with... e.g. PC Engines' Alix boards.  the Sheeva is meant to be all-in-one as much as possible.
May 19 17:47:18 <jzaw> aye
May 19 17:47:24 <jzaw> ive got an alix running my firewall
May 19 17:47:28 <PhotoJim> Me too.
May 19 17:47:28 <jzaw> 2d3 LX 800
May 19 17:47:33 <PhotoJim> Ditto.
May 19 17:47:45 <jzaw> but i dont think its a patch on the sheeva grunt-wise
May 19 17:47:54 <jzaw> no way could it run 3 webcams and zoneminder
May 19 17:48:26 <PhotoJim> rough guess, the Sheeva is about twice as fast as my Alix.
May 19 17:48:28 <jzaw> in about a month ill order a guru for a fireawall
May 19 17:49:04 <jzaw> yeah but the alix is also dearer !
May 19 17:49:20 <PhotoJim> that's true.
May 19 17:49:24 <PhotoJim> but better in some ways.  not in others.
May 19 17:49:40 <jzaw> not sure what way its better?
May 19 17:49:47 <jzaw> flat case so it fits in a 1u ?
May 19 17:49:55 <PhotoJim> FPU and built-in AES encryption.
May 19 17:50:01 <PhotoJim> Yes, better form factor for some applications.
May 19 17:50:04 <jzaw> doesnt the sheeva also have that?
May 19 17:50:09 <PhotoJim> 3 built-in NICs and the ability to add a mini-PCI card.
May 19 17:50:11 <jzaw> not fpu but encryption?
May 19 17:50:20 <PhotoJim> Umm... I didn't think so.  But I could be wrong.
May 19 17:50:24 <PhotoJim> I know no FPU for sure.
May 19 17:50:29 <jzaw> ah yes but there is going to be a new sheeva with 3 eth's
May 19 17:50:48 <PhotoJim> Intel stuff is better supported, that's the big advantage.
May 19 17:50:52 <PhotoJim> but ARM support is reasonable.
May 19 17:51:19 <PhotoJim> in favour of the Sheeva, more RAM, built-in SD slot and the built-in flash.
May 19 17:51:26 <jzaw> isnt everything for i386 also present in arm in the debian depostitory?
May 19 17:51:28 <PhotoJim> eSATA available instead of PATA.
May 19 17:51:40 <jzaw> yes
May 19 17:51:41 <PhotoJim> I think so, but not all OSes are available for ARM . not as many Linux distros, e.g.
May 19 17:51:56 <PhotoJim> and you can run Windows on an Alix if you want (if you get the one with video or add USB video).  I wouldn't want to, but some might.
May 19 17:52:00 <jzaw> true ... id love to see openbsd for the sheeva/guru
May 19 17:52:17 <PhotoJim> oh, there isn't ARM for OpenBSD?
May 19 17:52:25 <jzaw> not seen one yet
May 19 17:52:31 <jzaw> ive seen some mention of freebsd though
May 19 17:52:39 <jzaw> not found it yet (not really looked tbh)
May 19 17:52:53 <PhotoJim> what about NetBSD?
May 19 17:53:12 <PhotoJim> I only dabble with BSD a little, and only (so far) on hardware that isn't well supported by Linux (e.g. sun4m).
May 19 17:53:37 <PhotoJim> Debian runs well on my Sheeva, so I'm not really looking for alternatives.  I run it on my Alix too.
May 19 17:53:39 <jzaw> im fairly new to [fon]bsd ... but having discovered it and using pf now rather than iptables/tc (the latter for qos) i can tell you i love it
May 19 17:54:24 <PhotoJim> there's an unofficial FreeBSD for Sheeva, it seems.
May 19 17:54:29 <jzaw> yeah squeeze on the sheeva ... used to be lenny on the alix but is now obsd and pf
May 19 17:54:39 <jzaw> yes thats what ive seen
May 19 17:54:56 <PhotoJim> I use shorewall on Lenny on my Alix... it's straightforward enough even if it's a bit dumbed down :)
May 19 17:55:18 <jzaw> ive seen shorewall years ago
May 19 17:55:28 <jzaw> was using m0n0wall on the alix for a bit
May 19 17:55:42 * PhotoJim nods
May 19 17:55:43 <jzaw> but reallly do like to be able to ssh to the router from without
May 19 17:55:55 <jzaw> so obsd does nicely
May 19 17:56:10 <PhotoJim> well, whatever works.  no wrong answers here really.
May 19 17:56:29 <jzaw> and cats and the skinning of, many ways
May 19 17:56:34 <PhotoJim> obsd is pretty well regarded for perimeter machines.
May 19 17:56:38 <PhotoJim> heh, yes.
May 19 20:15:54 <jzaw> Tootoot222: you about pls
May 19 20:20:56 <Tootoot222> ?
May 19 20:21:07 <Tootoot222> jzaw: ?
May 19 20:24:45 <jzaw> i was just looking at your info you gave me before
May 19 20:24:59 <jzaw> and wondering if that makes a bootable hd clone of the sd card (but bigger)
May 19 20:25:06 <jzaw> and it probably doesnt?
May 19 20:25:12 <jzaw> im just doing this
May 19 20:25:13 <jzaw> dd if=/dev/sdd conv=noerror,sync bs=64k | dd of=/dev/sdg bs=64k
May 19 20:25:33 <jzaw> and then ill delete the swap ... create it up at the top of the disk and then expand the /
May 19 20:25:40 <jzaw> leaving the /boot as is
May 19 20:31:25 <Tootoot222> the USB doesn't need to be bootable; you have to edit your bootcmd in the uboot settings to make it boof rfrom the USB
May 19 20:31:36 <Tootoot222> so it really doesn't matter at all if it's an exact copy of the SD card
May 19 20:31:44 <Tootoot222> the files just need to be in the same order
May 19 20:32:02 <Tootoot222> (you can even move the uImage wherever you want as long as you put the same path in the bootcmd)
May 19 20:32:05 <Tootoot222> jzaw: ^
May 19 20:36:30 <jzaw> i see
May 19 20:36:34 <jzaw> (sort of)
May 19 20:36:52 <jzaw> PhotoJim: mentioned these
May 19 20:36:52 <jzaw> [18:33]  <PhotoJim> setenv bootcmd_usb 'usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x0800000 /boot/uInitrd; ext2load usb 0:1 0x400000 /boot/uImage'
May 19 20:36:53 <jzaw> [18:33]  <PhotoJim> setenv bootcmd 'setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console); run bootcmd_usb; bootm 0x400000 0x0800000'
May 19 20:36:53 <jzaw> [18:33]  <PhotoJim> saveenv
May 19 20:38:03 <jzaw> would that be appropriate? Tootoot222
May 19 20:38:34 <PhotoJim> I installed directly to my external USB device.  that's the settings I used to force the Sheeva to boot off that drive.
May 19 20:38:48 * jzaw nods
May 19 20:39:03 <jzaw> with rsync dont the source and target dirs have to be mounted?
May 19 20:39:13 * jzaw just just reading the man file
May 19 20:40:10 <Tootoot222> jzaw: i assume you're copying from within the sheeva from sd -> usb
May 19 20:40:17 <Tootoot222> in that case, yes, both have to be mounted
May 19 20:40:29 <Tootoot222> but since you have the SD as / (i think?), that's always mounted
May 19 20:40:37 <jzaw> actually ive shutdown the sheeva and pulled the sd card into a reader on my other linux box
May 19 20:40:57 <Tootoot222> well you can do the same thing as long as the usb is in
May 19 20:41:09 <Tootoot222> (you can actually have the USB in another computer if that 2nd computer is running a sshd)
May 19 20:42:20 <jzaw> indeed im reading that bout rsync hehe
May 19 20:42:33 <PhotoJim> don't forget to adjust your /etc/fstab.
May 19 20:42:43 <PhotoJim> (if you need to)
May 19 20:42:46 <jzaw> aye thats got me in the past ;)
May 19 20:42:49 <Tootoot222> PhotoJim: you actually woulnd'nt have to, unless just for the swap
May 19 20:42:55 <Tootoot222> since you pass root=blah to the kernel at boot
May 19 20:43:00 <Tootoot222> you don't need to have / in fstab
May 19 20:43:09 <Tootoot222> (unless you want to run disk checks on it)
May 19 20:43:09 <PhotoJim> Tootoot222: I suppose.
May 19 20:45:51 <jzaw> ahh dd has created some interesting partitions ... 2 ... first contains lost and found and uImage
May 19 20:46:00 <jzaw> and the second contains all the expected stuff for /
May 19 20:46:16 <jzaw> (this is on the usb disk
May 19 20:46:25 <jzaw> but no swap was dd'd
May 19 20:46:56 <jzaw> /dev/sdc1             3.9M  2.8M  981K  75% /mnt/usb1
May 19 20:46:57 <jzaw> /dev/sdc2             7.4G  1.5G  5.6G  21% /mnt/usb2
May 19 20:47:28 <jzaw> and by the looks of it there isnt a swap within 8GB (on the orig sd card)
May 19 20:48:27 <jzaw> Tootoot222: looks like youre right ... the fstab file has ....
May 19 20:48:48 <jzaw> dizzykey:/mnt/usb2/etc# cat fstab
May 19 20:48:49 <jzaw> # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
May 19 20:48:56 <jzaw> empty
May 19 20:49:18 <jzaw> so can i just use PhotoJim's incantation?
May 19 20:49:35 <Tootoot222> well, i'd rather you print out your current bootcmd
May 19 20:49:46 <Tootoot222> and then just modify that from mmc_start to usb start
May 19 20:49:51 <PhotoJim> mine assumes that the boot stuff is on the first partition of the disk.
May 19 20:50:09 <jzaw> yes i just noticed that PhotoJim
May 19 20:50:25 <jzaw> right let me jtag into the sheeva
May 19 20:50:28 <jzaw> brb
May 19 20:53:24 <jzaw> right ive gotthe marvell >> prompt
May 19 20:53:59 <Tootoot222> printenv bootcmd
May 19 20:54:00 <jzaw> is there a | more in the marvell cli?
May 19 20:54:03 <jzaw> ah good
May 19 20:54:14 <Tootoot222> and i assume you're using GNU screen, yes?
May 19 20:54:18 <jzaw> Marvell>> printenv bootcmd
May 19 20:54:18 <jzaw> bootcmd=run bootcmd_mmc; run bootcmd_nand
May 19 20:54:18 <jzaw> Marvell>>
May 19 20:54:27 <jzaw> ive got the sheeva multi esata btw
May 19 20:54:27 <Tootoot222> print bootcmd_mmc
May 19 20:54:44 <jzaw> Marvell>> print bootcmd_mmc
May 19 20:54:44 <jzaw> bootcmd_mmc=setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console) $(bootargs_root_mmc); mmcinit; ext2load mmc 0:1 0x800000 /uImage; bootm 0x00800000
May 19 20:54:44 <jzaw> Marvell>>
May 19 20:54:48 <PhotoJim> oh, get an eSATA enclosure... way faster than USB.
May 19 20:55:15 <jzaw> its a ata/ide 2.5" :(
May 19 20:55:30 <jzaw> but ill get a fat disk later
May 19 20:55:40 <Tootoot222> jzaw: setenv bootcmd setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console) $(bootargs_root_mmc); usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x800000 /uImage; bootm 0x00800000
May 19 20:55:47 <Tootoot222> jzaw: setenv bootcmd setenv 'bootargs $(bootargs_console) $(bootargs_root_mmc); usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x800000 /uImage; bootm 0x00800000'
May 19 20:55:50 <Tootoot222> that ^
May 19 20:56:02 <Tootoot222> oh, i think you have to take the / off of the uImage
May 19 20:56:12 <jzaw> right ... cos its expecting the same parition structure
May 19 20:56:19 <jzaw> but its usb not mmc/sd
May 19 20:56:50 <Tootoot222> the usb loading is different then the mmc loading iirc; you can't have the leading /
May 19 20:57:06 <jzaw> interesting
May 19 20:57:13 <jzaw> right let me get the usb disk
May 19 20:57:15 <Tootoot222> so your command would be
May 19 20:57:24 <Tootoot222> jzaw: setenv bootcmd 'setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console) $(bootargs_root_mmc); usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x800000 uImage; bootm 0x00800000'
May 19 20:57:30 <Tootoot222> (had the ' in the wrong place on the others)
May 19 20:57:45 <jzaw> ah i see it
May 19 20:58:44 <Tootoot222> (i also assume you're using the dd'd usb drive, in that / or /boot or whatever is still ext2)
May 19 20:59:39 <jzaw> damn it i unplugged it now
May 19 20:59:55 <jzaw> its quicker just to try now
May 19 21:00:35 <Tootoot222> if you used dd then it would be the same
May 19 21:00:52 <Tootoot222> (versus if you just used fdisk or gparted etc to make new partitions and copyed the files with rsync or similar)
May 19 21:01:11 <PhotoJim> my habit now is to refer to /boot/blah always, and make a softlink from /boot/boot to /boot in case I don't have a separate boot partition.  saves some brain cramps.
May 19 21:01:21 <PhotoJim> :s/I don't/I do/
May 19 21:02:08 <Tootoot222> cool ipaddr^
May 19 21:02:31 <PhotoJim> true!
May 19 21:03:25 <jzaw> how annoying is that
May 19 21:03:35 <Tootoot222> what happened
May 19 21:03:36 <Tootoot222> ?
May 19 21:03:36 <jzaw> the jtag on the sheeva pretty much always kp's my mac grr
May 19 21:03:42 <Tootoot222> lol
May 19 21:03:59 <jzaw> i have to make sure i come out of screen and then unplug the usb jtag
May 19 21:04:16 <jzaw> i seem to have lost all that chat
May 19 21:04:25 <jzaw> can you pls post the setenv stuff again ?
May 19 21:05:40 <Tootoot222> jzaw: setenv bootcmd 'setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console) $(bootargs_root_mmc); usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x800000 uImage; bootm 0x00800000'
May 19 21:06:26 <jzaw> Unknown command 'setenv' - try 'help'
May 19 21:07:36 <jzaw> ah i had cursored up ... invisible char got entered before the setenv
May 19 21:07:45 <jzaw> what was the second part Tootoot222 ?
May 19 21:08:21 <Tootoot222> uh, that should be all
May 19 21:08:25 <Tootoot222> that's a complete boot
May 19 21:08:28 <jzaw> just one line?
May 19 21:08:39 <jzaw> i thought you gave me two ?
May 19 21:08:53 <Tootoot222> PhotoJim gave 2
May 19 21:08:53 <jzaw> i lost the chat history when the macbook kp'd
May 19 21:08:57 <jzaw> ah right
May 19 21:09:13 <Tootoot222> xchat should log iirc
May 19 21:09:13 <jzaw> so i just issue the boot command now?
May 19 21:09:26 <Tootoot222> after that setenv, you just do either boot or reset
May 19 21:09:28 <Tootoot222> oh
May 19 21:09:30 <Tootoot222> saveenv
May 19 21:09:32 <Tootoot222> and then those ^
May 19 21:10:03 <jzaw> Marvell>> setenv bootcmd 'setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console) $(bootargs_root_mmc); usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x800000 uImage; bootm 0x00800000'
May 19 21:10:03 <jzaw> Marvell>> saveenv
May 19 21:10:03 <jzaw> Saving Environment to NAND...
May 19 21:10:03 <jzaw> Erasing Nand...Writing to Nand... done
May 19 21:10:03 <jzaw> Marvell>>
May 19 21:10:11 <jzaw> and boot now ... wish me luck
May 19 21:10:13 <jzaw> :)
May 19 21:10:51 <jzaw> Marvell>> boot
May 19 21:10:51 <jzaw> (Re)start USB...
May 19 21:10:51 <jzaw> USB:   scanning bus for devices... 3 USB Device(s) found
May 19 21:10:51 <jzaw>        scanning bus for storage devices... T T T T
May 19 21:11:06 <jzaw>  scanning bus for storage devices... T T T T 1 Storage Device(s) found
May 19 21:11:06 <jzaw> ** Bad partition 1 **
May 19 21:11:06 <jzaw> ## Booting image at 00800000 ...
May 19 21:11:06 <jzaw> Bad Magic Number
May 19 21:11:06 <jzaw> Marvell>>
May 19 21:11:34 <jzaw> right ill boot off the sd card and do the rsync method
May 19 21:12:39 <Tootoot222> what is the partition setup on that usb drive?
May 19 21:12:48 <Tootoot222> you can just change the partition number in the bootcmd
May 19 21:13:27 <jzaw> there are two
May 19 21:13:36 <jzaw> the first contains uimage
May 19 21:13:56 <jzaw> the second contains / (iguess) including
May 19 21:13:57 <jzaw> boot
May 19 21:13:58 <jzaw> etc
May 19 21:13:59 <jzaw> var
May 19 21:14:01 <jzaw> srv
May 19 21:14:02 <jzaw> etc
May 19 21:14:41 <jzaw> is there a way to see what partitions are on the usb at the marvell prompt?
May 19 21:15:25 <Tootoot222> uh
May 19 21:15:29 <Tootoot222> i think there is
May 19 21:15:43 <jzaw> damn screen for scrolling off the top
May 19 21:16:11 <Tootoot222> you can scroll
May 19 21:16:15 <Tootoot222> ^A[
May 19 21:16:16 <PhotoJim> or use a bigger window
May 19 21:16:25 <Tootoot222> no GNU screen has a scrollback mode
May 19 21:16:38 <Tootoot222> control+a [
May 19 21:16:47 <Tootoot222> then you can use pageup/down and the arrow keys to navigate
May 19 21:16:50 <Tootoot222> and esc to get out
May 19 21:17:00 <PhotoJim> that, I didn't know, actually.  good to know.
May 19 21:17:08 <Tootoot222> yeah it is
May 19 21:17:13 <PhotoJim> but if I need to see lots of text I often just enlarge the window.  screen will compensate automatically.
May 19 21:17:22 <PhotoJim> but that's a good plan to do if you forget, or can't.
May 19 21:17:22 <Tootoot222> not with the uboot prompt
May 19 21:17:25 <PhotoJim> oh, ok.
May 19 21:17:28 <Tootoot222> it doesn't have a resize handler
May 19 21:21:50 <jzaw> sorry to trouble you chaps ( Tootoot222 ) could you give me my env for booting from sd card again pls
May 19 21:22:02 <jzaw> (i lost the chat history here grr)
May 19 21:23:19 <Tootoot222> < jzaw> bootcmd=run bootcmd_mmc; run bootcmd_nand
May 19 21:23:28 <Tootoot222> < jzaw> bootcmd_mmc=setenv bootargs $(bootargs_console) $(bootargs_root_mmc); mmcinit; ext2load mmc 0:1 0x800000 /uImage; bootm 0x00800000
May 19 21:23:52 <Tootoot222> (make sure to remove the = when setting those vars; and surround them with '')
May 19 21:24:17 <jzaw> so <space> instead of =  ?
May 19 21:24:22 <Tootoot222> ye
May 19 21:24:34 <jzaw> and is the ' ' around the WHOLE thing on each line?
May 19 21:24:48 <Tootoot222> actually, replace the = with: <space>'
May 19 21:24:51 <Tootoot222> and put a ' at the end
May 19 21:24:54 <Tootoot222> (of the line)
May 19 21:25:02 <Tootoot222> setenv bootcmd 'blah...'
May 19 21:25:15 <Tootoot222> setenv bootcmd 'blah; blah; blah'
May 19 21:25:16 <Tootoot222> etc
May 19 21:25:36 <jzaw> k ... lets hope i dont brick the thing ;)
May 19 21:26:00 <Tootoot222> lol
May 19 21:26:08 <Tootoot222> you really have to try very hard to brick it
May 19 21:26:52 <jzaw> so it was one command to set usb booting ... but its two commands to return to sd card booting?
May 19 21:29:09 <Tootoot222> well it would really only be 1 command since the bootcmd_mmc didn't change
May 19 21:29:13 <Tootoot222> you could just do the first i posted
May 19 21:29:21 <Tootoot222> but to be sure that the mmc works you can do that 2nd one again
May 19 21:29:51 <jzaw> its going
May 19 21:30:04 <jzaw> and its gone off the screen but there was an error right at the begining
May 19 21:30:16 <jzaw> something to do with setenv comand
May 19 21:32:21 <jzaw> CPU : Marvell Feroceon (Rev 1)
May 19 21:32:22 <jzaw> Streaming disabled
May 19 21:32:22 <jzaw> Write allocate disabled
May 19 21:32:22 <jzaw> USB 0: host mode
May 19 21:32:22 <jzaw> PEX 0: interface detected no Link.
May 19 21:32:23 <jzaw> Net:   egiga0 [PRIME], egiga1
May 19 21:32:25 <jzaw> Hit any key to stop autoboot:  0
May 19 21:32:27 <jzaw> Unknown command 'setenv=bootargs' - try 'help'
May 19 21:32:29 <jzaw> SDHC found. Card desciption is:
May 19 21:32:31 <jzaw> Manufacturer:       0x1d, OEM "AD"
May 19 21:32:33 <jzaw> Product name:       "SM   ", revision 1.0
May 19 21:32:35 <jzaw> Serial number:      200416
May 19 21:32:37 <jzaw> Manufacturing date: 12/2009
May 19 21:32:39 <jzaw> CRC:                0x00, b0 = 0
May 19 21:33:04 <Tootoot222> you need to do: setenv bootcmd 'run bootcmd_mmc; run bootcmd_nand'
May 19 21:33:21 <jzaw> i left the = in grrr
May 19 21:33:25 <jzaw> silly me
May 19 21:33:29 <Tootoot222> lol
May 19 21:34:27 <jzaw> do i have to do both commands or just that one that i got wrong?
May 19 21:35:42 <jzaw> np i did both
May 19 21:35:44 <jzaw> and no error now
May 19 21:57:08 <jzaw> Tootoot222: PhotoJim thanks for your help ... ill have to try again tomorrow ... its late and im dying here
May 19 21:57:27 <Tootoot222> lol
May 19 21:57:46 <jzaw> 11pm ... and i was falling asleep at 6pm lol
May 19 21:57:53 <jzaw> so you can guess how tired i am now
May 19 22:45:55 <ulterior_modem> lolo
May 19 22:49:12 <Tootoot222> trolololo*
May 20 00:10:18 <rektide> recent guruplug owners: how long was the turn-around?
May 20 00:11:20 <ulterior_modem> for me?
May 20 00:12:45 <ulterior_modem> I didnt receive a tracking number until I emailed them.
May 20 00:12:50 <ulterior_modem> Even tho I'd preordered.
May 20 00:12:58 <ulterior_modem> so email them :P
May 20 00:17:29 <rektide> i havent ordered
May 20 00:17:40 <rektide> but i really dont intend to order if its going to be 3 months turn around
May 20 00:20:33 <ulterior_modem> I preordered
May 20 00:20:43 <ulterior_modem> orders that are new seem to be going straight out
May 20 02:31:40 <ulterior_modem> wth
May 20 02:32:01 <ulterior_modem> Can anyone with a guruplug confirm for me that they removed the wheel group in the default install?
May 20 02:58:20 <tinker-f595> preorder is an oxymoron
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