**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 25 02:59:57 2010 May 25 05:17:56 tinker-f595: their stupid pictures say the uart port is mini-usb iirc :) May 25 05:22:27 tilman: no, I am looking at the picture right now and it says jtag uart rs232 May 25 05:23:01 http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-guruplugdetails.aspx#extern May 25 05:23:32 http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/skins/skin_1/images/gpsp_2.jpg May 25 05:23:46 it says "mini usb-port", but it's the jtag port May 25 10:26:17 lo May 25 15:28:35 Yea...I spent a while reading, and I never could figure out what the jtag interface is/was or why it was needed. And the graphics and (rough) writeups on the product page indicated that there was a mini-usb port built-in, so it sounded just like the sheeva to me. May 25 15:36:22 what is there to figure out? it is pretty obvious what the jtag port is for especially if you look at the block diagram May 25 19:33:39 <[g2]> Anyone get a GuruPlug ? May 25 19:34:52 [g2] just got mine yesterday, but didn't get the jtag adapter, so can't do anything useful with it yet. May 25 19:35:11 [g2]: yes May 25 19:35:47 <[g2]> kusznir, tilman does your GigE port work ? May 25 19:36:20 <[g2]> kusznir, hmmm... I'm guessing you don't have serial then :( May 25 19:36:22 [g2] haven't tried; I don't have a console port, so I didn't think it was worth even plugging in until i can get that. May 25 19:37:09 [g2]: according to a lot of people, the guruplug overheats and reboots after a couple of minutes of gige use May 25 19:37:17 [g2]: see the forum at plugcomputer.org May 25 19:37:31 [g2]: as a workaround ,you can force the NIC to 100 mbit/s using miitool May 25 19:37:44 <[g2]> tilman, does that work ? May 25 19:38:13 <[g2]> mine ran for days with a usb-to-ethernet adapter May 25 19:38:21 i didn't try it, but random people on the internets say it does ;) May 25 19:38:58 * [g2] likes random people on the internet much of the time (not always) :) May 25 19:40:11 <[g2]> tilman, so you're not using you guru plug ? May 25 19:40:33 still preparing the system i'm going to put on it :D May 25 19:41:18 <[g2]> Ummm.... that shouldn't take a real long time :) May 25 19:41:27 <[g2]> Ubuntu ARM no ? May 25 19:41:34 guruplug has debian now May 25 19:41:41 since ubuntu stopped ARMv5 support May 25 19:42:12 i'll just be putting gentoo on mine when i get it though May 25 19:42:19 <[g2]> there's a Debian arm rootfs on there May 25 19:42:33 <[g2]> uh oh gentoo :) May 25 19:42:55 =D May 25 19:43:13 * [g2] was doing gentoo embedded on '04/'05 May 25 19:43:15 this is gentoo running my sheevaplug atm, so it shouldn't be too much different May 25 19:43:39 <[g2]> Tootoot222, just faster :) May 25 19:43:42 yup May 25 19:43:50 and with 2 eth/usb ports =D May 25 19:44:01 <[g2]> and E-SATA :) May 25 19:44:07 * Tootoot222 will dedicate the guru to be a super sexy router/firewall May 25 19:44:16 * [g2] has the same plans May 25 19:44:22 lol May 25 19:44:26 <[g2]> transparent bridge May 25 19:44:55 <[g2]> but I probably won't be running gentoo :( May 25 19:45:24 <[g2]> Tootoot222, been doing gentoo for long ? May 25 19:45:51 several months May 25 19:45:58 5~6 May 25 19:46:07 <[g2]> cool May 25 19:47:07 <[g2]> tilman, what kinda system are you planning on putting on you boxen ? May 25 19:47:09 i /would/ have a super long uptime, except there keep being these crazy lightning storms that turn my power off May 25 19:49:13 as far as the guru. mine has shut down a few times serving music from esata, and my network is 100Mb ... one of several disappointments with the guru plus so far May 25 19:51:23 and i haven't run the guru plug much since i got it ... currently the ups i have everything plug situated on has died May 25 19:51:44 <[g2]> LittleDedPenguin, I was looking for the forum article, but if it's heat, then it can may be able to be solved with a different enclosure. May 25 19:52:44 the power supply is most of the heat May 25 19:52:47 i don't want to break the seal quite yet, i'm thinking of getting my money back if i cannot find more information on the plug, and it keeps having serious "good for a toy but usless as a business tool" problems May 25 19:53:00 you could solder a replacement wall-wart onto the wire that goes into the motherboard May 25 19:53:09 (the wall-wart being then on the outside) May 25 19:53:23 not what i wanted or paid for May 25 19:55:03 i have not done anything funky with the plug yet, as much as i would like to, the thing is just too unstable for real usage, i may see about getting one of the european esata plugs, but those do not have the dual GbE ... May 25 19:55:36 as far as the wifi and bluetooth go, neither have been of any use so far May 25 19:55:52 <[g2]> LittleDedPenguin, my wifi worked, haven't tried BT May 25 19:58:01 i ordering stuff from digikey sometime soon (i hope), i may get more use out of the jtag box than the plug ... and that is not how it is supposed to be May 25 19:58:38 but then, i haven't been able to access the jtag portion of it yet either May 25 19:59:03 <[g2]> isn't OpenOCD supposed to be supported ? May 25 20:00:01 the port doesn't open up for OpenOCD to see (for me, at least) May 25 20:00:07 * [g2] plugs in to 100mbs port and trys workaround ? May 25 20:00:23 <[g2]> LittleDedPenguin, Linux ? May 25 20:00:30 debian lenny May 25 20:00:51 <[g2]> by port you me USB port ? May 25 20:01:29 yes, ttyUSB0 shows up, as the serial port, ttyUSB1 does not May 25 20:05:36 so far, i haven't done anything funky, so i haven't needed the JTAG yet, the serial has been more than enough, usually i just ssh into the plug after it boots May 25 20:07:08 i'm not sure how much abuse these molex pico-blade connectors will take, it may be the JTAG one is already messed up May 25 20:11:00 i've had a couple other things show up about the same time as the plug did, and with the problems and lack of information, I have not been as enthusiastic about the plug as i was when i first ordered it back in february May 25 20:11:54 i'm still curious why they put a warranty sticker on it, when you have to open it to populate the internal microSD May 25 20:12:07 <[g2]> LittleDedPenguin, looks like the plug is up on 100mbs May 25 20:12:07 ... another irritant May 25 20:12:26 <[g2]> I'll leave it on for a while and see what the uptime is May 25 20:12:56 the plug worked fine, after about eight tunes, it rebooted ... another dozen songs later, it just shut down May 25 20:14:27 my initial reasoning for the purchase was to replace my large noisy file server with something hidden I wouldn't have to hear or see ... so far it fails at file serving May 25 20:14:38 <[g2]> loading a different kernel from microSD would nice, but really with USB ports and E-STATA it's kinda overkill May 25 20:15:19 i purchased an 8G class 6 microSD just for this project May 25 20:15:42 heh, its the only microSD i have around here May 25 20:16:12 the phones that take memory cards here take m2 May 25 20:25:58 Question: does anyone know if the GuruPlug Standard has an internal MicroSD slot? May 25 20:53:26 <[g2]> tilman, so what kind of system are you planning to put on the plug ? May 25 20:54:16 gavlee: some version of the crux distribution May 25 20:54:21 ugh May 25 20:54:25 tab fail May 25 22:04:06 LittleDedPenguin: do you have the default debian install on it? May 25 23:44:28 lol May 25 23:44:44 i thought i was popular for minute **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 26 02:59:57 2010