**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 04 02:59:57 2010
Jun 04 05:53:55 <ulterior_modem> http://i47.tinypic.com/wresg2.jpg
Jun 04 06:16:45 <tinker-f595> oh sharing your mac addresses?
Jun 04 11:17:24 <flipflop1> hi all
Jun 04 11:19:23 <flipflop1> does anyone have experience with FreeBSD on Guruplug?
Jun 04 14:53:04 <jzaw_pl> flipflop1: id be most interested to hear about openbsd on guru
Jun 04 15:01:36 <zoran> after reading buffer, regarding "blinking" of sheeva: my ethernet blinks with short stops all the time. cannot see any functionality problem so far.
Jun 04 15:02:16 <tinker-f595> that is normal behavior for ethernet
Jun 04 15:02:27 <zoran> I was puzzled
Jun 04 15:02:31 <tinker-f595> why?
Jun 04 15:02:40 <jzaw_pl> ethernet leds have always blinked
Jun 04 15:02:41 <zoran> never saw eth to do that this way
Jun 04 15:02:44 <jzaw_pl> to indicate tx rx
Jun 04 15:02:56 <tinker-f595> jzaw_pl: correct
Jun 04 15:03:19 <jzaw_pl> although some only indicate hd / fd    or 10/100 or even 1000 bT
Jun 04 15:03:20 <zoran> I have desktop under freebsd just by sheeva and it behaves totally different
Jun 04 15:03:48 <tinker-f595> zoran: how is it behaving differently?
Jun 04 15:03:58 <zoran> blinks only when something goes in/out
Jun 04 15:04:11 <zoran> sheeva does it all the time. ubuntu 9.04
Jun 04 15:04:46 <zoran> I cannot go log to sheeva right now from the console to post data
Jun 04 15:04:47 <tinker-f595> well you may have a process running on the sheeva that is constantly tx/rx
Jun 04 15:04:59 <Tootoot222> are you running something internet heavy like a torrent client?
Jun 04 15:05:19 <zoran> have to check processes. you are correct
Jun 04 15:05:20 <tinker-f595> zoran: you cannot ssh to the sheeva?
Jun 04 15:05:33 <zoran> not from the console I'm on right now
Jun 04 15:05:48 <zoran> have to use screan or go to graphical mode or else
Jun 04 15:05:52 <zoran> screen
Jun 04 15:06:17 <zoran> k. lemme fire up screen
Jun 04 15:06:18 <tinker-f595> to use ssh you do not need that
Jun 04 15:07:37 <zoran> k, back
Jun 04 15:07:58 <zoran> I had to do that, since I read it from znc on another host
Jun 04 15:08:54 <zoran> I seimply see no offending process to use ethernet all the time
Jun 04 15:09:12 <zoran> root         1  4.7  0.3   2896  1896 ?        Ss   16:45   1:04 init
Jun 04 15:09:12 <zoran> root         2  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 kthreadd
Jun 04 15:09:12 <zoran> root         3  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        SN   16:45   0:00 ksoftirqd/0
Jun 04 15:09:12 <zoran> root         4  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 events/0
Jun 04 15:09:12 <zoran> root         5  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 khelper
Jun 04 15:09:14 <zoran> root        50  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 kblockd/0
Jun 04 15:09:20 <zoran> root        53  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 khubd
Jun 04 15:09:20 <zoran> root        55  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 kmmcd
Jun 04 15:09:20 <zoran> root        69  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    16:45   0:00 crypto
Jun 04 15:09:20 <zoran> root        70  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    16:45   0:00 crypto_ret
Jun 04 15:09:20 <zoran> root        75  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    16:45   0:00 pdflush
Jun 04 15:09:22 <zoran> root        76  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    16:45   0:00 pdflush
Jun 04 15:09:25 <zoran> root        77  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 kswapd0
Jun 04 15:09:27 <zoran> root        78  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 aio/0
Jun 04 15:09:30 <zoran> root       215  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 mtdblockd
Jun 04 15:09:32 <zoran> root       216  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 nftld
Jun 04 15:09:35 <zoran> root       239  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   16:45   0:00 kcryptd/0
Jun 04 15:09:37 <zoran> root       377  0.0  0.0   2156   500 ?        S<s  16:46   0:00 udevd
Jun 04 15:09:40 <zoran> root       667  7.8  0.0      0     0 ?        SN   16:46   1:41 jffs2_gcd_mtd1
Jun 04 15:09:43 <zoran> root      1088  0.0  0.1   1600   552 tty4     Ss+  16:46   0:00 getty
Jun 04 15:09:46 <zoran> root      1089  0.0  0.1   1600   552 tty5     Ss+  16:46   0:00 getty
Jun 04 15:09:48 <zoran> root      1094  0.0  0.1   1600   552 tty2     Ss+  16:46   0:00 getty
Jun 04 15:09:52 <zoran> syslog    1139  0.1  0.1   1928   688 ?        Ss   16:46   0:01 syslogd
Jun 04 15:09:53 <zoran> root      1157  0.0  0.1   1888   568 ?        S    16:46   0:00 dd
Jun 04 15:09:53 <zoran> klog      1159  0.0  0.2   2352  1260 ?        Ss   16:46   0:00 klogd
Jun 04 15:09:53 <zoran> root      1177  0.0  0.2   5528  1332 ?        Ss   16:46   0:00 sshd
Jun 04 15:09:55 <zoran> root      1203  0.0  0.1   2176   784 ?        Ss   16:46   0:00 cron
Jun 04 15:09:57 <zoran> root      1214  0.0  0.1   1600   552 tty1     Ss+  16:46   0:00 getty
Jun 04 15:10:00 <zoran> root      1217  0.8  0.5   8568  2600 ?        Ss   17:06   0:00 sshd
Jun 04 15:10:03 <zoran> zoran     1219  0.0  0.3   8568  1892 ?        S    17:07   0:00 sshd
Jun 04 15:10:05 <zoran> zoran     1220  0.4  0.3   3528  1896 pts/0    Ss   17:07   0:00 bash
Jun 04 15:10:08 <zoran> zoran     1231  0.0  0.1   2528   972 pts/0    R+   17:08   0:00 ps
Jun 04 15:10:10 <zoran> zoran     1232  0.0  0.1   2048   724 pts/0    R+   17:08   0:00 less
Jun 04 15:10:20 <zoran> hm, dd?!
Jun 04 15:10:27 <unreal-> wtf?
Jun 04 15:10:36 <zoran> I posted ps auxc data
Jun 04 15:11:05 <Tootoot222> http://pastebin.com/ next time zoran
Jun 04 15:11:12 <zoran> ah, sorry
Jun 04 15:11:16 <zoran> right
Jun 04 15:12:41 <jzaw_pl> you can even make it specific ... http://openplug.pastebin.com
Jun 04 15:13:59 <jzaw_pl> pastebin your netstat -an
Jun 04 15:14:15 <zoran> k, lemme check things
Jun 04 15:15:53 <zoran> http://pastebin.com/2n295u8j
Jun 04 15:26:55 <zoran> hm, I assume ssh daemon makes this blinking. as long as I have no problem, even powering it down, no reason to cry further. thanks all for reply.
Jun 04 15:50:41 <flipflop1> jzaw_pl: i ll try out netbsd on weekend, got a 8 gb microsd
Jun 04 15:50:55 <flipflop1> could as well try to bring up openBSD
Jun 04 15:52:02 <jzaw_pl> cool
Jun 04 15:52:12 <flipflop1> any specific wishes?
Jun 04 15:53:11 <flipflop1> my goal is mysql, ruby, apache... wlan i could test a bit, but it is no priority for me
Jun 04 20:19:44 <jzaw_pl> flipflop1: i intend to use guru for a firewall ... two eth interfaces useful :)
Jun 04 20:20:01 <jzaw_pl> hence obsd and pf
Jun 04 20:20:12 <jzaw_pl> for routing filtering and qos
Jun 04 20:22:52 <Tootoot222> i've already done a proof-of-concept with my laptop (and a usb -> eth converter)
Jun 04 20:22:55 <Tootoot222> it's actually very simple
Jun 04 20:22:59 <Tootoot222> like 4 iptables commands
Jun 04 20:30:48 <jzaw_pl> Tootoot222: thats for sheeva?
Jun 04 20:30:58 <jzaw_pl> rather than guru
Jun 04 20:31:21 <jzaw_pl> i know i can run debian and iptables /tc
Jun 04 20:31:24 <Tootoot222> jzaw_pl: well the iptables commands are pretty much independant of hardware
Jun 04 20:31:43 <jzaw_pl> but having started using obsd/pf about 6 months ago i have to say its way superior for a firewall/router than linux
Jun 04 20:32:01 <Tootoot222> all you have to do is masquerade eth1 to eth0, and then there was another NAT one
Jun 04 20:32:14 <jzaw_pl> independant ... yes but sheeva only has one eth port whereas the guru server has 2
Jun 04 20:32:24 <jzaw_pl> NAT???
Jun 04 20:32:26 <jzaw_pl> is evil
Jun 04 20:32:45 <Tootoot222> i think i only used nat to make all the traffic attempting to leave the network re-routed to a local server
Jun 04 20:33:57 <jzaw_pl> ahh of course you dont have lots of ip's to play with
Jun 04 20:33:57 <Tootoot222> iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i eth0 -j REDIRECT --to-port 80
Jun 04 20:33:59 <Tootoot222> was the nat one
Jun 04 20:34:08 <jzaw_pl> ive a /26 ipv4 and a /48 ipv6
Jun 04 20:34:13 <Tootoot222> =o
Jun 04 20:34:27 <jzaw_pl> i can have more ipv4 if i want
Jun 04 21:05:53 <noidea`> Tootoot222: with sambal would I have the same interface as nfs?
Jun 04 21:06:06 <noidea`> with nfs, its just like as if It were part of my system
Jun 04 21:06:15 <Tootoot222> noidea`: yes you can mount it to a normal folder
Jun 04 21:06:29 <noidea`> what did you find wrong with nfs?
Jun 04 21:06:30 <Tootoot222> the mount type is cifs or something i think though
Jun 04 21:06:38 <Tootoot222> so when you have a nfs share mounted
Jun 04 21:06:43 <Tootoot222> and you lose connection to the server
Jun 04 21:06:53 <Tootoot222> the client instantly locks up waiting for i/o to the server
Jun 04 21:06:57 <Tootoot222> which can never achieve
Jun 04 21:07:05 <Tootoot222> so dbus locks up
Jun 04 21:07:07 <noidea`> ohh, thats annoying :|
Jun 04 21:07:08 <Tootoot222> then nautilus locks up
Jun 04 21:07:10 <Tootoot222> then gnome locks up
Jun 04 21:07:17 <Tootoot222> and then you can't do anything
Jun 04 21:07:29 <noidea`> lol, maybe thats why I havent had as many crashes lately
Jun 04 21:07:42 <Tootoot222> and also with nfs there is no way to identify clients
Jun 04 21:07:48 <Tootoot222> you just point it to an ip or a range
Jun 04 21:07:53 <Tootoot222> and hope they say who they are
Jun 04 21:08:03 <Tootoot222> with samba you have the option for login names and passwords
Jun 04 21:08:11 <Tootoot222> and each user can have a seperate list of shares
Jun 04 21:08:24 <noidea`> oh :3
Jun 04 21:08:25 <Tootoot222> (you can also have public shares which require no credintials)
Jun 04 21:08:32 <noidea`> can I point it to / ?
Jun 04 21:08:41 <Tootoot222> if you want
Jun 04 21:08:44 <noidea`> good :3
Jun 04 21:09:13 <Tootoot222> and, as an added bouns, with samba windows can mount the shares
Jun 04 21:09:23 <Tootoot222> since it uses samba for it's file sharing stuff
Jun 04 21:09:29 * jzaw_pl shudders at the thought of smb
Jun 04 21:09:31 <noidea`> yea, but the file system is ext 4
Jun 04 21:09:54 <noidea`> I didnt think windows could read <>fat and ntfs
Jun 04 21:10:16 <noidea`> jzaw_pl: why?
Jun 04 21:10:40 <jzaw_pl> just the concept of windows kind of thing _infecting_ a pure linux box
Jun 04 21:10:50 <noidea`> lold
Jun 04 21:10:54 <noidea`> like aids for computer
Jun 04 21:10:55 <noidea`> s
Jun 04 21:14:34 <jzaw_pl> aye
Jun 04 21:15:05 <Tootoot222> well, yes, microsoft's implementation of smb2 does suck some major ass
Jun 04 21:15:09 <Tootoot222> but samba is pretty good
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