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Jun 05 07:57:24 <jzaw_pl> [23:15:09]  <Tootoot222> but samba is pretty good
Jun 05 07:57:25 <jzaw_pl> ive setup smb so that the oplay can play movies from the server
Jun 05 07:57:40 <jzaw_pl> but most of my other computers either scp or use afp
Jun 05 08:02:40 <kblin> jzaw_pl: in my tests, file transfers with samba are about an order of magnitude faster than scp
Jun 05 08:02:56 <kblin> to/from a sheeva, that is
Jun 05 08:03:06 <kblin> the CPU is the limiting factor here
Jun 05 08:19:47 <jzaw_pl> scp sure
Jun 05 08:19:54 <jzaw_pl> but smb is awful compared to afp
Jun 05 08:20:14 <jzaw_pl> and scp is easy for single files and the such
Jun 05 08:20:23 <jzaw_pl> esp from terminals
Jun 05 08:20:57 <jzaw_pl> my tests are that scp is about 1/2 the speed of smb which is about 1/4 the speed of afp
Jun 05 09:07:02 <flipflop_> jzaw_pl: similar to a problem of mine, i want to use it (some day) as a bridge, qos and som security. Idea was to have a open Wlan as well and route it directly into tor, i dont trust alot of other solutions :)
Jun 05 09:11:48 <jzaw_pl> hehe
Jun 05 09:12:07 <jzaw_pl> the guru is more than powerful enough
Jun 05 09:12:18 <jzaw_pl> afterall i run something similar on an alix LX800
Jun 05 09:14:04 <flipflop_> yeah
Jun 05 09:14:15 <flipflop_> that is why i loved the feature list
Jun 05 09:14:29 <flipflop_> 2 gbit for testing stuff, sniffing traffic etc is great as well
Jun 05 09:14:45 <flipflop_> yet i am kinda disappointed in reading all the overheating stuff
Jun 05 09:15:43 <jzaw_pl> yeah ... but im not afraid of modd'ing it
Jun 05 09:15:55 <jzaw_pl> id put an external psu on it and a big heatsink
Jun 05 09:16:17 <jzaw_pl> one might argue doing so negates the _plug_ style
Jun 05 09:16:22 <flipflop_> <-- eu warranty, so i got 2 years
Jun 05 09:16:34 <jzaw_pl> but to me its both the small size and the wattage
Jun 05 09:16:37 <flipflop_> nah, i am dissappointed that it doenst work out of the box
Jun 05 09:16:46 <flipflop_> sure, design error IMO
Jun 05 09:16:50 <jzaw_pl> im in the uk (normally) so 2 years too
Jun 05 09:17:02 <jzaw_pl> heat design ... yes that is a poor show
Jun 05 09:17:28 <flipflop_> and i found a "better" solution for me, if i need a second one
Jun 05 09:17:36 <jzaw_pl> oh?
Jun 05 09:17:37 <flipflop_> Fujitsu has a nas with kirkwood
Jun 05 09:17:45 <jzaw_pl> hehe
Jun 05 09:17:51 <jzaw_pl> £?
Jun 05 09:18:00 <flipflop_> 160 Euro
Jun 05 09:18:04 * jzaw_pl nods
Jun 05 09:18:10 <jzaw_pl> what are the spec's?
Jun 05 09:18:16 <flipflop_> wait a sec
Jun 05 09:19:14 <flipflop_> http://de.fujitsu.com/products/prof_accessories_mainboards/storage/celvin_nas_server.html
Jun 05 09:19:42 <flipflop_> my bad posting a german site :/
Jun 05 09:19:46 <jzaw_pl> ah in german ... i dont read/speak deutche
Jun 05 09:19:50 <jzaw_pl> (sp?)
Jun 05 09:20:44 <flipflop_> https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/docs/ds-celvin-nas-server-q600.pdf the small one
Jun 05 09:21:12 <flipflop_> https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/docs/ds-celvin-nas-server-q700.pdf the bigger one (esata used as normal sata, 2 hdds)
Jun 05 09:22:03 <flipflop_> but seems to be only one GBit
Jun 05 09:22:14 <flipflop_> wlan and bt you loose, else same chip
Jun 05 09:23:13 <flipflop_> IMO it sounds quite cool
Jun 05 09:23:42 <flipflop_> no use for bridging settings, but nice for home stuff
Jun 05 09:24:01 <jzaw_pl> aye
Jun 05 09:24:16 <flipflop_> btw did someone do some benchmarking yet? full encryption on disk, Gbit connection?
Jun 05 09:26:17 * flipflop_ hates to be student with not much money
Jun 05 09:33:58 <MoDaX> my current priority is to get temperature down without voiding the warranty. no time for benchmarks because heat might burn components :/
Jun 05 09:34:58 <kblin> jzaw_pl: afp as in the apple thing?
Jun 05 10:00:34 <jzaw_pl> yes kblin install on debian as netatalk
Jun 05 10:18:17 <kblin> thanks, but no thanks :)
Jun 05 10:19:07 * kblin sticks to samba and the cifs kernel module
Jun 05 10:27:46 <jzaw_pl> lol kblin you would want to have some macs before considering netatalk
Jun 05 13:41:36 <kblin> jzaw_pl: yeah, I really doubt netatalk is that much faster than a properly configured samba
Jun 05 15:03:06 <Tootoot222> jzaw_pl: i'm getting 24MB/s transfer speeds via samba, which means my sheevaplug's hdd is bottlenecking; so even if afp were faster it wouldn't be useful to me =p
Jun 05 15:03:31 <Tootoot222> and i don't have any mac computers, where i have several windows ones
Jun 05 15:40:21 <ulterior_Q> MoDaX: are you in the US?
Jun 05 15:47:41 <MoDaX> no
Jun 05 18:10:02 <jzaw_pl> [17:03:06]  <Tootoot222> jzaw_pl: i'm getting 24MB/s transfer speeds via samba, which means my sheevaplug's hdd is bottlenecking; so even if afp were faster it wouldn't be useful to me =p
Jun 05 18:10:02 <jzaw_pl> good speed though
Jun 05 18:10:06 <jzaw_pl> usb2?
Jun 05 18:10:09 <jzaw_pl> or esata?
Jun 05 18:10:22 <jzaw_pl> im hoping to get much more from my new esata drive
Jun 05 18:10:42 <jzaw_pl> also depends on which is bottlenecking ... the rx'ing hd might be
Jun 05 18:10:47 <jzaw_pl> the tx'ing hd might be
Jun 05 18:13:39 <Tootoot222> usb 2 jzaw_pl
Jun 05 18:13:54 <Tootoot222> it's (sadly) only 5400 rpm
Jun 05 18:14:00 <Tootoot222> my laptop is 7200 sata
Jun 05 18:29:30 <flopflip> Tootoot222: did you try speed with encryption?
Jun 05 18:31:30 <Tootoot222> with like sshfs?
Jun 05 18:31:41 <Tootoot222> i haven't yet
Jun 05 18:31:41 <flopflip> encrypted file system
Jun 05 18:31:59 <flopflip> i am wondering about the speed of the crypto unit
Jun 05 18:32:14 <Tootoot222> eh, i cbfed to try to setup an encrypted partition with gentoo
Jun 05 18:41:57 <flopflip> cbfed?
Jun 05 19:13:06 <jzaw_pl> the crypto unit will defo help
Jun 05 19:13:13 <jzaw_pl> does it do the hard work of ssh too?
Jun 05 19:13:37 <jzaw_pl> im thinking ipsec or some other crypted vpn might be very nice
Jun 05 19:14:33 <jzaw_pl> with two etth
Jun 05 19:14:41 <jzaw_pl> two eth guru as a router i mean
Jun 05 22:00:59 <tinker-f595> jzaw_pl: only if you have a kernel with the hardware crypto module support
Jun 05 23:40:26 <scant> hi
Jun 05 23:43:13 <scant> i can't get eSata to work on my sheevaplug, i installed debian squeeze via the debian installer and upgraded the kernel via apt to 2.6.32-5. i can see the drive in uboot.
Jun 05 23:54:48 <jzaw_pl> [00:00:59]  <tinker-f595> jzaw_pl: only if you have a kernel with the hardware crypto module support
Jun 05 23:54:51 <jzaw_pl> how can one tell ?
Jun 05 23:55:05 <jzaw_pl> i got the sheevaplug esata multi
Jun 05 23:55:14 <jzaw_pl> with a preinstalled debian squeeze
Jun 05 23:56:21 <jzaw_pl> just playing with blog s/w
Jun 05 23:56:22 <jzaw_pl> https://blog.dzki.co.uk/?p=10
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