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Jul 15 03:59:14 <rektide> c'mon plug 3.0
Jul 15 03:59:18 <rektide> gimme some armada baby
Jul 15 05:34:32 <tinker-f595> rektide: I think you will see the Armada based OLPC XO 1.75 sooner than plug 3.0
Jul 15 08:00:10 <chemicaloliver> rektide: I hate to think of the heat problems they'll have with a faster cpu, more ram and an hd in a smaller enclosure than the origional sheevaplug
Jul 15 14:52:53 <rektide> chemicaloliver: so, the sheevaplug has 4GB ram in it
Jul 15 14:53:03 <rektide> but the sheeva has a tiny little straw sucking it down
Jul 15 14:53:06 <rektide> erm, 2GB excuse me
Jul 15 14:53:15 <rektide> 16 bit ram pipe
Jul 15 14:53:34 <rektide> i'm pretty sure Armada's "more ram" will be a non issue
Jul 15 14:53:38 <rektide> as for a "Faster cpu"
Jul 15 14:53:43 <rektide> you may have heard of this thing
Jul 15 14:53:45 <rektide> called Moore's law
Jul 15 14:54:06 <rektide> not sure what processes Kirkwood & Armada's will be made in
Jul 15 14:54:11 <rektide> are made in / will be made in
Jul 15 14:54:33 <rektide> but i'm relatively certain the power /overheating issue you mention isnt going to be an issue
Jul 15 14:54:54 <rektide> honestly its whatever OEM designed the plug.  great chip, great silicon, could be a great plug, flawed delivery.
Jul 15 14:54:55 <Kuifje111> the sheevaplug has 2GB RAM?
Jul 15 14:55:00 <rektide> and iterations help that a lot.
Jul 15 14:55:02 <Kuifje111> more like 512MB RAM.
Jul 15 14:55:04 <rektide> yes i believe so Kuifje111
Jul 15 14:55:07 <rektide> no you are incorrect
Jul 15 14:55:10 <rektide> they ALL have 2GB
Jul 15 14:55:16 <rektide> you just cant use 1.5 GB of it
Jul 15 14:55:26 <Kuifje111> but only 512MB is utilized?
Jul 15 14:55:30 <rektide> 16 bit straw ignores the other 48 bits of data
Jul 15 14:55:41 <rektide> that RAM hold
Jul 15 14:56:41 <rektide> i could be mistaken, i dont know much about what kind of ram is available or how multi chips of ram work together, but thats what i was told a while back as to why the Openplugs have 2GB of ram that you get 512MB of
Jul 15 14:57:38 <Barlow> i think you're mistaking 4Gb for 4GB
Jul 15 15:01:04 <rektide> i dont atm have time to go look up the reference designs
Jul 15 15:01:25 <rektide> but i will.  apologies for not being able to be certain.  i could definitely be wrong.
Jul 15 15:02:43 <rektide> the issue came up a long time ago, with people requesting an increased memory size
Jul 15 15:02:55 <PhotoJim> much cheaper to put 512MB in than 2 GB, especially if you're wasting 1.5 GB of it
Jul 15 15:03:29 <rektide> what bus width the ram though
Jul 15 15:03:35 <rektide> thats the question
Jul 15 15:04:28 <rektide> i dont know how ram in a computer works, how the multiple chips work in conjunction
Jul 15 15:05:21 <rektide> my sense is each chip has a 32 bit width that gets accessed
Jul 15 15:05:59 <rektide> the Kirkwood processor only has a 16-bit DDR2 interface
Jul 15 15:06:11 <rektide> is high density ram available w/ a 16-bit bus?
Jul 15 22:40:45 <caspertwice> hey guys what kernel is the plug currently being shipped with? I want to go back to factory default and need help doing so
Jul 15 22:41:06 <caspertwice> I want to boot the device from nand again
Jul 16 01:49:47 <crab234> caspertwice: if you're referring to the Globalscale sheevaplug, then i think it is linux 2.6.30.2
Jul 16 01:50:31 <crab234> caspertwice: distribution is Ubuntu 9.04
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