**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 16 02:59:56 2010 Jul 16 04:13:55 2,6,26 Jul 16 13:38:19 I'm using a SheevaPlug with the Debian that came pre-installed on the SD card & want to use iotop without having to compile a kernel- is there a way to enable taskstats from aptitude? Jul 16 13:41:00 ElllisD: if you don't use the Debian kernel, you have to ask the vendor, not us Jul 16 13:41:49 (The Debian kernel enables this option) Jul 16 13:43:45 ElllisD: oh, sorry, I thought you asked on #debian-arm; but this is #openplug Jul 16 13:44:40 anyway, I don't know anything about the kernel they ship but it seems a lot of people use the kernel from http://sheeva.with-linux.com Jul 16 13:44:57 you could either a) use the kernel from http://sheeva.with-linux.com or b) use the kernel from Debian or c) talk to the vendor Jul 16 13:48:18 Do I have to explicitly tell aptitude to include the kernel when I do safe-upgrade if I want the normal Debian kernel? Jul 16 13:50:29 ElllisD: I guess so; I doubt they've installed the kernel deb since they use their own kernel (they = NewIT/GlobalTech) Jul 16 13:50:42 you'd probably also have to change how the machine boots Jul 16 13:50:50 can you make the output of printenv from u-boot availabe? Jul 16 13:52:06 tbm: Is printenv u-boot output the stuff in the serial console's scrollback? Jul 16 13:52:47 ElllisD: when you boot, you see something about u-boot and "press a key to interrupt"; if you don't do anything, it will boot Linux Jul 16 13:52:55 at this point, press a key and type "printenv" Jul 16 13:53:44 tbm: I can do that in a few minutes. Jul 16 14:05:42 http://temp.nocturnal.fea.st/printenv.txt Jul 16 14:05:51 USB: scanning bus for devices... 2 USB Device(s) found Jul 16 14:05:51 scanning bus for storage devices... T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T Jul 16 14:06:04 It didn't do that previous boots- seen that? Jul 16 14:06:34 I dunno what I could've done to start that now. Jul 16 14:07:17 dunno Jul 16 14:07:25 press ctl-c and type 'reset' Jul 16 14:07:50 no keyboard yet Jul 16 14:08:19 this is right after autoboot countdown- no kernel yet even Jul 16 14:09:37 no idea why it's trying to boot from usb now Jul 16 14:10:01 did you change anything in uboot? Jul 16 14:11:16 I dunno but I removed the USB drive that was swap- & restarted the serial in time to catch the end of a dump- now marvell prompt>> Jul 16 14:12:20 no change in uboot- except maybe when I did printenv. Putty does this thing where if you copy it pastes at the same time. Maybe that happened while I was grabbing the printenv text Jul 16 14:13:25 huh Jul 16 14:13:36 so when you reset the device, does it boot now? Jul 16 14:15:04 looked normal except for some 'unrecoverable I/O' block errors likely to do with fstab pointing to a missing UUID for swap. Jul 16 14:15:27 what a strange little bugger this plug Jul 16 14:17:17 NAND device Bad eraseblock at foo Jul 16 14:17:53 n/m that was hours ago Jul 16 14:19:19 Jul 16 10:14:02 debie1 kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) on device 179:2. Jul 16 14:19:19 Jul 16 10:14:02 debie1 kernel: Freeing init memory: 140K Jul 16 14:19:19 Jul 16 10:14:02 debie1 kernel: uncorrectable error : Jul 16 14:19:19 Jul 16 10:14:02 debie1 kernel: uncorrectable error : Jul 16 14:19:19 Jul 16 10:14:02 debie1 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock0, sector 0 Jul 16 14:19:19 Jul 16 10:14:02 debie1 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device mtdblock0, logical block 0 Jul 16 14:19:19 Jul 16 10:14:02 debie1 kernel: uncorrectable error : Jul 16 14:19:24 oops sorry Jul 16 14:19:37 it didnt look like that much Jul 16 14:23:41 Wow- ruined now Jul 16 14:24:01 ? Jul 16 14:24:25 these messages have nothing to do with the mmc card Jul 16 14:26:20 I commented out the line defining / in fstab, to see if that was the sector thing it was talking about. That gave me a fsck error that was resolved eariler by defining / in fstab. Now when I try to boot the non-SD OS (ubuntu) so I can mount the SD from it & fix fstab, I get a 'Bad Magic Number' & a dump every time. Jul 16 14:27:31 Is a mmc card what has the OS that boots when the SD card is removed? It booted ubuntu an hour ago or so... this blows Jul 16 14:29:40 no idea, sorry Jul 16 14:29:56 np ty anyway Jul 16 14:30:58 It looks like a mmc card is the same as what I was calling a SD card Jul 16 14:32:33 yes Jul 16 14:36:48 This morning there was something that would boot ubuntu when that card wasn't inserted, now when it tries to boot from whatever that is it complains of a bad partition, and stops with a bad magic number error. Jul 16 14:41:18 Looks like the disk it boots from when the card isn't present is called NAND. Jul 16 15:46:43 why don't people read the documentation? Jul 16 15:48:06 why bother? other people will read it anyway and help you one irc. :P Jul 16 15:53:30 Because it's written like this: Copy this file that doesn't exist into so and so, and we won't tell you you have to do this secret step because we had to change it later, but we will link to a 404 in the help page for you... Jul 16 15:59:06 ElllisD: that is not true Jul 16 15:59:30 5. Copy the following to the USB stick root directory: Jul 16 15:59:30 a. Root file-system (packed into rootfs.tar.gz) Jul 16 15:59:34 Not present Jul 16 15:59:59 Maybe you need to learn how to type so you type the correct commands? Jul 16 16:00:27 Ok, I can't type. That's why the docs point to a file that's not here. Jul 16 16:00:32 I have know problems with the documentation Jul 16 16:00:58 I'll copy it to my USB stick as soon as I find it. Jul 16 16:01:40 Well it is there Jul 16 16:01:49 path please? Jul 16 16:02:05 SheevaPlug CD/what? Jul 16 16:02:13 yes on the CD Jul 16 16:02:28 not mine- looking now Jul 16 16:03:48 it is there Jul 16 16:03:52 well need to get going **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 17 02:59:56 2010