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Sep 28 06:27:20 <duri> I think I already know the answer but I will ask anyway ... I have a GuruPlug Server but JTAG Module. Will I be able to install native debian on it w/o having to get the JTAG Module ?
Sep 28 06:27:48 <duri> I have GuruPlug Server but *no* JTAG Module
Sep 28 06:58:58 <tinker-f595> duri: possibly...look on the wikie
Sep 28 06:59:17 <tinker-f595> http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Sep 28 06:59:25 * tinker-f595 to sleep
Sep 28 07:17:58 <kerio> duri: the problem is that if you make the guruplug not boot, you're fucked
Sep 28 10:13:52 <Vegar> which plug device is the latest and greatest?
Sep 28 10:18:29 <leighbb> D2plug is quite new
Sep 28 10:19:39 <leighbb> www.plugcomputer.org/development-kits/
Sep 28 15:10:27 <Vegar> there were some issues earlier with the sheevaplug overheating
Sep 28 15:10:33 <Vegar> is that resolved in these newer plug designs?
Sep 28 16:05:10 <tinker-f595> Vegar: the problem was not with the sheevaplug, it was with the guruplug if you ran both ethernet ports at 1 Gb.  Set the ports to run at 100 and they will run cooler
Sep 28 16:28:05 <kerio> tinker-f595: and they will not run at gigabit speed
Sep 28 16:36:15 <themill> both ports running not required to get it to overheat
Sep 28 16:36:35 <themill> one is quite sufficient, as I discovered the other day
Sep 28 16:41:51 <Vegar> ah
Sep 28 16:41:52 <Vegar> I see
Sep 28 16:42:34 <themill> Vegar: but we're talking about the guruplug -- I can't comment on the newer designs.
Sep 28 16:49:38 <Vegar> themill: I'd assume the hardware designers have taken such flaws into consideration in their newer designs
Sep 28 16:50:12 <Vegar> does anyone have any experience with the D2plug? is it capable of decoding 1080p video?
Sep 28 16:50:13 <themill> I'd have assumed that they would have been taken into account in the first place, but yes.
Sep 28 16:51:24 <tinker-f595> kerio: nothing like stating the obvious!
Sep 28 16:53:30 <tinker-f595> Vegar: go ask on the forum...there should be at least one or 2 people there that have received d2plug
Sep 28 16:54:03 <tinker-f595> Vegar: http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugforum
Sep 28 16:57:15 <Vegar> ah, nice, there's a forum, thanks
Sep 28 17:02:29 <Vegar> I want one of the plug devices, but I'm not sure which
Sep 28 17:02:33 <Vegar> and I'm not sure why either
Sep 28 18:10:41 <Vegar> what do you guys do with your plugs?
Sep 28 18:42:52 <duri> kerio: thanks. Is there a way (recipe) to install debian w/out the use of JTAG ? and is it reasonably working ? I could take my chances, I have got my GuruPlug server for free, no big loss if I brick it.
Sep 28 18:43:29 <kerio> duri: install it on a SD, change the nvram from the live system to boot from the SD first, then from the NAND
Sep 28 18:43:40 <kerio> if stuff fails, remove the SD and it'll boot from the NAND
Sep 28 18:45:03 <duri> I see, I will look for instructions here ... http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/plugs.html
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