**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 13 23:59:56 2005 Mar 14 04:44:14 <[g2]> what do you guys think about an OpenSlug user baseline Mar 14 04:44:39 Well i think most people will want to pivot out to a external disk. Mar 14 04:44:50 <[g2]> me too Mar 14 04:44:54 <[g2]> that's the plan Mar 14 04:45:16 <[g2]> I'm talking about taking an export of the openembedded tree and tarballing it up Mar 14 04:45:34 <[g2]> then they would be frozen Mar 14 04:45:46 <[g2]> immmune to changes Mar 14 04:46:24 Are we talking baout binary downloaders, or ...? Mar 14 04:46:26 <[g2]> And we could update it once a week or every two weeks or for a critical fix like ehci after testing Mar 14 04:46:50 <[g2]> not binary yet .... Mar 14 04:47:01 <[g2]> just the oe tree Mar 14 04:47:28 <[g2]> If I knew how to build with a tagged version in OE that would work too Mar 14 04:47:41 I dunno how to do that either. Mar 14 04:47:51 <[g2]> but it's just a easy to tag the tree and then export Mar 14 04:48:05 I guess I'm ambivilent, since I can build with impunity. Mar 14 04:48:14 <[g2]> we could further prune the tree so it just has openslug stuff in it Mar 14 04:48:40 for the base image, or for base image plus openslug-packages ? Mar 14 04:48:46 Either way I guess. Mar 14 04:48:52 I guess its proably a good idea. Mar 14 04:48:57 <[g2]> base image + packages Mar 14 04:49:10 <[g2]> it's just an Idea Mar 14 04:49:23 <[g2]> I don't know how many ppl would want it Mar 14 04:49:38 I guess my feeling is that most folks that are building now know what theyre doing, so its probably not really an issue. Mar 14 04:50:18 But it might be nice for us to say, "I built using the 20050315 image, and foo is screwed up Mar 14 04:50:21 "" Mar 14 04:50:27 <[g2]> ok so going to the binary will address the users and their packages Mar 14 04:50:52 sorry I'm not being much help h ere. ;-) Mar 14 04:51:26 <[g2]> the suggestion of building with OPENSLUG-20050315 is a good idea Mar 14 04:52:08 <[g2]> I hope OE knows how to do that easily Mar 14 05:53:04 morning Mar 14 05:53:31 <[g2]> morning Mar 14 05:53:40 Lots happening? Mar 14 05:54:48 <[g2]> usual cast of characters :) Mar 14 05:56:47 heheh Mar 14 07:58:39 Anybody else is getting an error building e2fsprogs? I get unix.o(.text+0x54c): In function `PRS': Mar 14 07:58:39 unix.c: undefined reference to `initialize_ext2_error_table' Mar 14 08:57:35 <[g2]> giel, are you running uClibc ? Mar 14 19:19:19 <[g2]> anyone around ? Mar 14 19:42:11 I'm around. ;-) Mar 14 19:42:43 rwhitby-web is around too. ;-) Mar 14 19:43:32 I now have a 1.1 hub to do some more testing with Mar 14 19:43:57 ... and if necessary to remove one of the conflicting requirements Mar 14 19:44:28 will plug it in tonight Mar 14 19:45:14 ... and do some controlled experiments Mar 14 19:49:50 it seems I am Mar 14 19:49:56 .... talking to myself :-) Mar 14 19:54:30 <[g2]> Hi guys I was feeling lonely :) Mar 14 19:55:03 <[g2]> could one of you guys paste the /etc/network/interfaces eth0 lines in here ? Mar 14 19:55:13 <[g2]> pretty pretty please ? Mar 14 19:55:59 bought one of these: http://www.targus.com/au/product_details.asp?sku=PAUH112U Mar 14 19:56:33 auto eth0 Mar 14 19:56:40 iface eth0 inet static Mar 14 19:56:46 address 192.168.1.2 Mar 14 19:56:53 netmask 255.255.255.0 Mar 14 19:56:59 gateway 192.168.1.1 Mar 14 19:57:15 hwaddress ether 00:AA:BB:CC:XX:YY Mar 14 19:57:34 <[g2]> THX you are the gentleman and scholar! Mar 14 19:58:37 my other hub is this one: http://www.targus.com/au/product_details.asp?sku=PAUH212F Mar 14 20:00:22 <[g2]> the tre amigos Mar 14 20:06:45 * [g2] feels sappy and hugs dyoung-web and rwhitby-web Mar 14 20:08:13 hehe Mar 14 20:12:28 I long for the day when I can freely boot to a external disk rootfs again... Mar 14 20:12:51 <[g2]> want my switchbox ? Mar 14 20:13:15 WTF happened to /. ??? Mar 14 20:13:42 I thought my mother's crappy windows machine had been infected but my IDA is showing same thing Mar 14 20:13:50 <[g2]> dunno I'm doing multiple BB and it's crushing my machine! Mar 14 20:14:27 well duh Mar 14 20:14:37 <[g2]> Um... /. is up for me Mar 14 20:14:37 why would you even try to do that? Mar 14 20:14:55 <[g2]> ah... 1 of the bitbakes finished Mar 14 20:15:28 ok /. is back now, but a little while ago it was giving a scam site Mar 14 20:15:36 maybe they'll have a story on it Mar 14 20:16:03 this dns spoofing stuff is getting scary Mar 14 20:19:09 sigh, never mind, I guess I went to slashdot.net instead Mar 14 20:19:29 usually I don;t have to type in the full url just the first few letters but not a one of my machines now Mar 14 20:21:23 god do I hate IE Mar 14 20:23:48 dyoung-web: once I finish the experiments with the 1.1 hub, then I can put it to use to drive the 1.1 things I have and remove the requirement from me to be able to disable the ehci module Mar 14 20:24:09 dunno if anyone else is disabling that module. if no-one else, then it could go back in the kernel Mar 14 20:24:45 and dyoung would be able to freely boot to an external disk rootfs again (as would I) Mar 14 20:25:06 damn, some debian release manager is proposing dropping support for all archs other than x86 and PPC Mar 14 20:25:22 there would go the last reason for anyone to even think about debian Mar 14 20:25:47 ok, here is a question. which of our distributions (openslug and unslung) would be the most stable for sharing a 20Gb disk via both samba and nfs to the same disk ? Mar 14 20:26:07 <[g2]> openslug after EHCI is fixed :) Mar 14 20:26:28 clients would be windows box, other slugs, colinux on windows, ... Mar 14 20:27:11 would need to be able to be used as an nfs root for one or two slugs Mar 14 20:27:47 I get my third slug (a Linksys/Cisco freebie) this week or next ... Mar 14 20:28:15 Today I think the answer is unslung. Mar 14 20:28:46 dyoung-web: that's what I was thinking too, but wanted to check I wasn't being a luddite. Mar 14 20:29:18 I might change my mind in a week or 2 though. Mar 14 20:29:22 rwhitby-web: are you requireed to give that little plug now? Mar 14 20:29:39 <[g2]> rwhitby-web, congrats on the freebie Mar 14 20:30:00 fontenot: no :-) (this response brought to you by Microsoft) Mar 14 20:30:36 I'm also getting a WAG54G, but have no use for it (as I have cable, not ADSL). Mar 14 20:30:46 we should congratulate kergoth. Mar 14 20:30:57 for? Mar 14 20:30:59 for leaving TI ? Mar 14 20:31:18 for taking the initiative to leave TI to move to differnt pastures. Mar 14 20:31:30 since he didnt seem to like it there all that much. Mar 14 20:32:21 hmm, nobody congratulated me when I left my job Mar 14 20:32:33 * [g2] didn't know you then' Mar 14 20:32:45 * [g2] post congrats! Mar 14 20:33:07 fontenot: did you get a better one? Mar 14 20:33:32 no. did kergoth? Mar 14 20:33:32 Okay maybe not then. Maybe my brain is ... differnt. Mar 14 20:34:33 kergoth is going home to live with his folks. Mar 14 20:35:08 call me old fashioned, but a job has to be pretty bad to be better than no job Mar 14 20:35:08 I've always been an advocate for empowerment against The Man and the move toward self-enterprise. but anyways, thats just me. Mar 14 20:35:19 rwhitby-web: I'm still awaiting the congratulatory part... Mar 14 20:35:41 congrats on not having a job ? :-) Mar 14 20:36:20 I'm still awaiting hearing what kergoth did which is to be congratulated Mar 14 20:36:21 * rwhitby-web wonders how he would support his gadget habit without a job ... Mar 14 20:36:27 did he get a better job? Mar 14 20:36:50 <[g2]> welcome sunshine Mar 14 20:36:53 heh Mar 14 20:36:58 hey kergoth. congrats on leaving TI (I think) :-) Mar 14 20:37:04 :) thanks Mar 14 20:37:06 <[g2]> we were just talking about congratulating you Mar 14 20:37:15 <[g2]> CONGRATS! Mar 14 20:37:20 <[g2]> What's the scoop ? Mar 14 20:37:38 going back to MN for a few months to figure out what i want to do next Mar 14 20:37:57 mid-life crisis ? Mar 14 20:38:06 <[g2]> cool. still gonna make it to OLS ? Mar 14 20:38:08 heh, i've never known what i want to do Mar 14 20:38:14 just been hopping from job to job, following the money Mar 14 20:38:23 this last one wasnt a good fit for me, so need to try to figure it out again Mar 14 20:39:29 <[g2]> kergoth, BEST OF LUCK in what ever you endeavor that's legal :) Mar 14 20:39:55 [g2]: you going to OLS? Mar 14 20:40:07 <[g2]> I'm thinking about it Mar 14 20:40:18 <[g2]> it's a good show right ? Mar 14 20:40:23 it's not a show Mar 14 20:40:34 <[g2]> symposium Mar 14 20:40:37 no booths, no marketdroids Mar 14 20:40:44 <[g2]> just talks Mar 14 20:40:58 <[g2]> and hanging out ? Mar 14 20:41:01 no goodies to take home? t-shirts, funny desktop curios? Mar 14 20:41:06 I'm registered Mar 14 20:41:15 yeah they give youa bag Mar 14 20:41:20 with a tshirt and some stuff Mar 14 20:41:23 * [g2] probably needs to register Mar 14 20:41:30 <[g2]> how expensive is it ? Mar 14 20:41:35 but I don't yet have a hoptel room nor flight Mar 14 20:41:55 when I registered it was $300CAD, but I think the early bird has passed now Mar 14 20:42:02 Is anyone going to LWNY? Mar 14 20:42:17 <[g2]> when's that ? Mar 14 20:42:21 I thought that was in feb? or was that in boston ? Mar 14 20:42:27 I think its in May? Mar 14 20:42:41 I don't see myself going all that way and paying all that money Mar 14 20:42:52 for the most commercial of all linux shows Mar 14 20:43:20 I hear the NY one is most business hardcore of all the LW Mar 14 20:43:29 Drat. I've been looking for a good excuse to go to NYC. Mar 14 20:45:22 <[g2]> kergoth, so when's the last day ? Mar 14 20:45:29 next friday Mar 14 20:45:35 <[g2]> cool Mar 14 20:45:44 <[g2]> how'd the boss man take it ? Mar 14 20:46:01 we both knew it was just a matter of time before i left, either for another position in ti or elsewhere Mar 14 20:46:13 so i told him my plans, he said ok, and we bs'd about cold steel knives and rock concerts Mar 14 20:46:17 and that was that Mar 14 20:46:42 <[g2]> kergoth, is spunky Mar 14 20:46:57 Mmmm Cold Steel.... Mar 14 20:47:15 The Shiny Kukri *ROCKS* Mar 14 20:47:35 picked up their Kobun (5.5" fixed blade, tanto, max legal blade length to carry in texas), and a factory second of theri lite gurhka kukri Mar 14 20:47:42 * kergoth has _really_ taken a liking to the kukri Mar 14 20:47:58 I like my kukri's. Mar 14 20:48:00 * dyoung-web has 3 Mar 14 20:48:04 nice Mar 14 20:48:08 The original one sucks. Mar 14 20:48:37 it has a place for you to poke your finger as not to anger Kali when you draw it without drawing blood. Mar 14 20:50:03 i'd really love to get a matcheed wakazashi & katana from them, but awfully pricey Mar 14 20:50:55 back later. Mar 14 20:52:35 man whenever I have to use IE I wonder if 95% of the world is on crack Mar 14 20:58:16 no, just those using IE Mar 14 20:58:23 oh, that is 95% of the world :-( Mar 14 21:01:03 back later **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 14 23:59:56 2005