**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 16 23:59:56 2005 Mar 17 00:57:13 * perlguru byebye Mar 17 02:13:37 fyi: I've put my alignment-debug-stuff online at http://www.siddy.org/openslug/ . It's actually quite helpful in locating those errors, so it might be of use for someone. Mar 17 02:14:41 Siddy, do you know where I might start to look for common endian problems and solutions? Mar 17 02:15:25 common problems? what do you mean? which problems there might be in general? Mar 17 02:16:07 Right, and what their solutionsn would be. Mar 17 02:16:56 I'm sure I'm having a endian problem with this USB webcam thing because /proc/bus/usb tells me the right VID/PID, but the driver said it isnt. Mar 17 02:17:32 hm... sorry, I don't know about a central reference for this kind of errors. Mar 17 02:17:57 I'm not real proficient in C, so I can only guess at this point. Mar 17 02:18:26 there's some article about lilliputions, isn't there? Mar 17 02:18:40 or I should say "with C types as it relates to typical endian issues" Mar 17 02:19:04 peteru is your man to talk to Mar 17 02:20:22 Okay, I wanted to ask him how his WGT634 was doing anyways. Mar 17 02:22:03 http://www.nomis52.net/?section=projects§2=netgear&page=about <- good site for it Mar 17 02:36:02 I dont have the enthusiasm to fix this today. Mar 17 02:36:31 If someone knows what to look for for endian problems, have a look at spca5xx please. ;-) Mar 17 05:29:27 <[g2]> morning dyoung rwhitby Mar 17 05:29:51 morning Mar 17 05:37:49 * perlguru byebye Mar 17 05:39:30 * perlguru byebye Mar 17 05:40:55 <[g2]> things have been kinda quiet lately Mar 17 05:43:54 I've moved into the "set it up semi-permanently" stage. Installing gallery on unslung. Mar 17 05:44:42 <[g2]> I'm getting ready for taht Mar 17 05:46:04 hey [g2]! Mar 17 05:46:12 <[g2]> hi! siddy-away Mar 17 05:46:38 <[g2]> rwhitby dyoung this is one effort I'd like to try Mar 17 05:46:40 my patch for the alignment-errors in the tcp-options was accepted for upstream today, so you all will have it in 2.6.12! Mar 17 05:46:52 <[g2]> siddy-away, CONGRATS! Mar 17 05:46:56 * siddy-away is proud of his first kernel-patch Mar 17 05:47:00 ;) Mar 17 05:47:12 <[g2]> awesome Mar 17 05:47:25 <[g2]> arm linux uk ? Mar 17 05:47:38 <[g2]> VoodooZ_work, I've got something I want to try Mar 17 05:47:44 * perlguru byebye Mar 17 05:47:45 morning. Mar 17 05:47:57 You want to try or You want ME to try? :) Mar 17 05:48:01 no, sent it directly to lkml and davem , it wasn't arm-related. Mar 17 05:48:15 <[g2]> siddy-away, cool mainline Mar 17 05:48:47 <[g2]> VoodooZ_work, based on the different kernel size you and perlguru have on the AMD arch I'd like to try a little expierment Mar 17 05:49:11 <[g2]> We can tag the repo and figure out how to build a given version or Mar 17 05:49:30 <[g2]> I can export the tree and tarball it up and we can all use the tarballl Mar 17 05:50:03 <[g2]> then I'd like like to compare MD5s or SHA1s or both for ALL .o and ipkgs etc.... Mar 17 05:50:22 <[g2]> obviously some will be different Mar 17 05:50:36 <[g2]> due to app that compile in the date and time stamps Mar 17 05:50:39 ok. Mar 17 05:50:51 <[g2]> but maybe we could go in an just verify .text sections etc.... Mar 17 05:50:55 um, I think gcc puts a timestamp in every single .o Mar 17 05:51:10 <[g2]> no it doesnet Mar 17 05:51:12 I did compare the .text section of files produced on both arch. Mar 17 05:51:14 <[g2]> doesnot Mar 17 05:51:23 It should all be in the #OE log. Mar 17 05:51:37 tried the latest binutils yet? Mar 17 05:51:57 <[g2]> perlguru, what's the "latest" ? Mar 17 05:51:58 Actually, I didn't figure out how rapidly enough to try. Mar 17 05:52:15 I wasn't sure how to force OE to use the CVS one. Mar 17 05:52:27 <[g2]> package binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1: completed Mar 17 05:52:52 It's 2.15.96 or something I thought Mar 17 05:53:12 binutils-2.15.96.tar.bz2 . . . . Mar 8 17:40 Mar 17 05:53:41 ftp://sourceware.org/pub/binutils/snapshots Mar 17 05:54:25 <[g2]> perlguru, dunno what's the latest "release" Mar 17 05:54:58 <[g2]> things seem to have stabilized a bunch in the last 6 months Mar 17 05:55:06 <[g2]> at least for ARM Mar 17 05:56:02 good to hear Mar 17 05:58:43 * perlguru byebye Mar 17 05:59:56 [g2]: ok, I'm building 1.3084 Mar 17 05:59:58 night all Mar 17 06:06:58 VoodooZ_work, have you tried an openslug image built on AMD64 yet? Mar 17 06:07:02 hm... building fakeroot-native-1.2.2 fails for me with some automake-error, anybody else seeing this? Mar 17 06:07:17 I'm actually just about to start it. Mar 17 06:07:24 siddy-away, do you use the symlinks package? Mar 17 06:07:28 I want to make sure my builds are exactly the same first. Mar 17 06:07:58 perlguru, yes, but automake is there. It just complains about some version mismatch. Mar 17 06:07:59 VoodooZ_work, i tried it. it boots, but it couldn;t mount Mar 17 06:08:03 configure.ac:5: version mismatch. This is Automake 1.9.3, Mar 17 06:08:04 configure.ac:5: but the definition used by this AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE Mar 17 06:08:04 configure.ac:5: comes from Automake 1.8.4. You should recreate Mar 17 06:08:05 configure.ac:5: aclocal.m4 with aclocal and run automake again. Mar 17 06:08:11 *shrug* Mar 17 06:08:11 whatr about the size of the kernel? Mar 17 06:08:30 VoodooZ_work, trimmed it (etx3 as module) Mar 17 06:08:57 siddy-away, i dont know. *shrug* too. Mar 17 06:08:58 I see. Mar 17 06:08:59 <[g2]> bash-2.05b$ bk changes | more Mar 17 06:08:59 <[g2]> ChangeSet@1.2930.69.1, 2005-03-17 14:48:44+01:00, reenoo@sugarcube.dyndns.org Mar 17 06:08:59 <[g2]> Mar 17 06:09:15 <[g2]> rwhitby, my changesets seem later than 1.3084 Mar 17 06:10:12 perlguru: Build started! I'll let you know in around 30 minutes. Mar 17 06:10:26 k Mar 17 06:10:35 * perlguru busy waiting... Mar 17 06:45:12 build completed: real 34m54.420s Mar 17 06:47:21 perlguru: unfortunately It seems my remote serial connection to my slug bailed out on me so I won't be able to flash it until tonight. Mar 17 06:48:34 My final kernel file is 988412 bytes which i'll compare with my xeon build (when it finishes) Mar 17 06:48:46 It's still at glibc. slow. Mar 17 06:56:23 perlguru: I wasn't running minicom from the right machine earlier! Dope! so i flashed the file and I'm booting... Mar 17 07:00:31 perlguru: Everything seems to work fine. Mar 17 07:43:57 For comparison: My kernel on the xeon build is 955680bytes so a bit of a difference. Mar 17 09:35:13 how large should the openslug flashdisk image be? mine is 1671168 Mar 17 09:35:52 (build on laptop (x86) using coLinux) Mar 17 09:59:41 you mean openslug-nslu2-20050317141827.flashdisk.img? Mar 17 09:59:47 mine is 8388608 Mar 17 11:13:37 <[g2]> ~logs Mar 17 13:48:18 damn power outage Mar 17 13:51:50 sue em! Mar 17 13:52:07 (that's what we do in the netherlands if there's an outage) Mar 17 13:52:33 really? cool :-) Mar 17 14:08:00 I just installed firefox on my mother's pc - why didn't I do this years ago?? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 17 23:59:57 2005