**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 24 23:59:56 2005 Mar 25 01:27:45 rwhitby-away, you still here? Mar 25 01:30:23 yep Mar 25 01:30:55 is it around 7Pm on the 25th for you? Mar 25 01:32:15 <- testing a time widget... Mar 25 01:32:38 8pm Mar 25 01:33:06 hmmm... something wrong with my code then... Mar 25 01:33:10 daylight savings ends on Sunday morning Mar 25 01:33:23 Adeliade follows DST? Mar 25 01:34:32 yep Mar 25 01:34:55 southern hemisphere DST ... Mar 25 01:35:03 ah... okee Mar 25 01:35:14 opposite to yours Mar 25 01:35:22 just like the seasons Mar 25 01:42:07 ah... I had the wrong gmt offset for adelaide Mar 25 01:42:39 I had 9.5 but you are 10.5 Mar 25 01:49:36 we are normally 9.5, but 10.5 in DST Mar 25 01:49:43 so no comments on changing base-passwd to 3.5.9 in openslug-image.bb ? Mar 25 01:50:53 oh, didn't see that before Mar 25 01:51:00 why wouldn't one? Mar 25 01:51:14 I dunno, thats what I was asking myself. Mar 25 01:51:33 and I'm a little wondrous that noone has grumbled about not being able to bitbake openslug-image for the past 4 days or so Mar 25 01:52:02 does noone else pull every other day? Mar 25 01:53:07 I've been concentrating on unslung for the past week Mar 25 01:55:18 ok pushed Mar 25 02:08:00 in openslug.conf, should we have DISTRO_TYPE ?= "beta" instead of DISTRO_TYPE = "beta" so we can override it with debug in our local.conf ? Mar 25 02:32:01 sure Mar 25 06:44:01 how do i create a nfs mount to my openslug ? Mar 25 06:44:44 is nfs-utils available? Mar 25 07:49:09 <[cc]smart> you don't need nfs utils Mar 25 07:49:19 <[cc]smart> you got kernel 2.6 Mar 25 07:49:31 <[cc]smart> worst case you need to load modules manually Mar 25 07:49:40 <[cc]smart> load sunrpc lockd nfs Mar 25 07:49:54 <[cc]smart> if in doubt, start portmapper Mar 25 07:49:58 <[cc]smart> then you can just mount Mar 25 07:50:13 <[cc]smart> mount 192.168.0.1:/yourshare /mnt/mydir Mar 25 07:50:22 <[cc]smart> or better Mar 25 07:50:36 <[cc]smart> mount -o nolock 192.168.0.1:/yourshare /mnt/mydir Mar 25 07:56:50 there is no lockd sunrpc and nfsd on the slug Mar 25 07:57:08 (i cant find it) Mar 25 08:02:44 do i have to install some kernel-modules? Mar 25 08:09:44 I modprobed sunrpc, lockd and nfs, but i still cannot mount a nfs share Mar 25 08:13:21 nt: RPC: Program not registered Mar 25 13:48:00 anybody here a GigE expert?...I think I am about to take the plunge Mar 25 13:51:34 what do you mean? Mar 25 13:53:29 I've yet to get full wirespeed on a 32-bit adapter. Mar 25 13:54:10 the 32-bit pci card gets me between 200-400 Mbit. Mar 25 13:54:29 the 64bit adapter just plain goes fast. Mar 25 14:06:22 kas11: sweet. Mar 25 14:19:03 sorry...@#$% phone...wondering if $100 switch is good enough....if cat-5e is acceptable for short runs... Mar 25 14:23:03 5 computers...3 with built-in GigE that I NFS between continously...cable modem/wrt54gs that would go to the switch...mostly looking to upgrade if it is worth it Mar 25 14:28:07 I was looking for [g2] since I know he was doing GigE...but since he is among the missing.... Mar 25 14:39:07 kas11, I have the Linksys SD2008 Mar 25 14:39:31 it's loud but very respectable performance.... Mar 25 14:39:37 ByronT happy with it? Mar 25 14:39:41 kewl Mar 25 14:39:50 http://soltesz.net/sd2008/ Mar 25 14:39:53 one warning... Mar 25 14:40:08 it's loud... it has a 40mm fan that runs at 6000rpm Mar 25 14:41:09 I modded mine with a 40mm fan (but 20mm deep) that runs at 3000rpm (but at 14dba!) and place heat sinks on the broadcom chips Mar 25 14:44:27 I was looking at the Linksys EG005W-cu or maybe the 008...looks like a case similar to the wrt...maybe heat would be an issue Mar 25 14:45:48 I rememer the days with those high speed fans...had some 60mm/7000rpm that you couldn't stand to be in a the same county with *lol* Mar 25 14:46:51 there was a reason that I didn't get the EG versions... Mar 25 14:47:04 don't remember atm though Mar 25 14:48:15 ic...thanks for the heads up Mar 25 14:48:35 the last thing I need is a flaky switch Mar 25 14:49:06 check the performance page of that link I provided Mar 25 15:54:40 intersting info on GigE cabling here http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article41-page4.php Mar 25 15:56:07 ByronT...thx for the link...interesting...heat will be a problem since ambient is usually about 78F in the office... Mar 25 15:58:18 could be Mar 25 16:12:04 concensus seems to be that decent, short CAT-5 cables with all 8 conductors will work fine...CAT-6 is a waste of money and CAT-5e prolly just insures that all 8 conductors are use...phone quality wiring is a definite no-go tho Mar 25 21:29:54 Hi Jacques Mar 25 21:31:47 hi ka6sox-laptop :-) Mar 25 21:32:14 how goes it? Mar 25 21:35:04 ok. looks like the second (hopefully last) load goes around april 1st Mar 25 21:35:44 you have to round trip it? Mar 25 21:35:46 not really fun tho :-\ Mar 25 21:36:25 yeah I'll bet...moving Sucks Mar 25 21:36:27 i drove the truck down on the 22nd, we drove car back yesterday, and I will drive another truck down on the 1st Mar 25 21:36:42 moving my parents really sucks Mar 25 21:36:49 taking longer than you thought. Mar 25 21:36:56 (but then it always does) Mar 25 21:37:51 yeah a lot longer Mar 25 21:39:23 lol - http://hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTExMTc5NTA2NHFNZzhJUlBudHhfMV8xX2wuanBn Mar 25 21:47:23 that is good Mar 25 21:47:29 LIfe imitating art Mar 25 22:28:09 ~seen Byront Mar 25 22:28:30 oh its 1;30am there. Mar 25 22:28:32 where has that stooge been? Mar 25 22:28:40 lol! Mar 25 22:29:12 4 hours of sleep in last 2 days... running on empty... Mar 25 22:29:33 we should ask rwhitby if we need to put that intel license on the Unslung downloads too. Mar 25 22:30:01 :) Mar 25 22:30:07 alter it slightly to state that it is linksys PLUS code Mar 25 22:30:30 yeah..I read it again and it *looks* similar Mar 25 22:32:34 yeah, we should put in on Unslung too. Just say that it contains intel software Mar 25 22:32:47 okay Mar 25 22:33:56 same as openslug - just contains intel software Mar 25 22:34:10 okay Mar 25 22:34:24 okee Mar 25 22:34:27 we should not that the license only applies to specific items - those being the ixp400.o kernel module, and nothing else. Mar 25 22:34:37 s/should not/should note/ Mar 25 22:34:54 agreed Mar 25 22:35:18 oh Wordsmith? Mar 25 22:35:29 we could even put the GPL on the same license page, and specify that the rest of the sofware is under that Mar 25 22:35:42 someone rang? Mar 25 22:35:56 brain is musshy, fyi... Mar 25 22:36:15 okay....just take notes then and we can work out the details. Mar 25 22:36:16 :) Mar 25 22:36:31 I think I have the correct URL's for downloading Mar 25 22:36:50 (no Openslug Beta yet) Mar 25 22:36:54 but soon(tm) Mar 25 22:38:07 Everyone happy with jbowler's patch? Mar 25 22:38:31 you mean the opeNSLUg Mar 25 22:40:13 um....I never heard that name b4. Mar 25 22:40:24 That's the password Mar 25 22:40:47 jbowler, ah...good idea Mar 25 22:41:06 the default root pw to answer the question on the list? Mar 25 22:41:14 jbowler: I like the choice of password :-) Mar 25 22:42:10 It's easy to remember, for developers, but it's not secure - users need to change it on first boot. Mar 25 22:42:54 caveat emptor Mar 25 22:42:58 same thing as for unslung.... Mar 25 22:43:26 yeah, for unslung we decided to keep the network footprint the same as stock firmware. we have no such restriction for openslug Mar 25 22:44:11 The standard technique is to mark the passwd as 'change on first login', don't know if that's possible with tinylogin Mar 25 22:44:16 it's often tempting just to force a known root password on unslung too, if only to stem the tide of FAQs on the matter Mar 25 22:44:33 Agreed. I doubt that tinylogin can do that. Mar 25 22:44:48 jbowler: BTW, welcome! :-) Mar 25 22:45:06 Hello to all! Mar 25 22:45:51 I am a little befuddled that ppl still don't get that they have to change the root password with unslung Mar 25 22:46:49 The only rules regarding BK write access are that you bk send to nslu-changesets (as you did - thanks), and that this is a meritocracy, so you're allowed to do anything as long as (1) you know enough to know that it's the right thing to do, (2) you know enough to know that it won't break anything, and (3) I forgot what number three was .... Mar 25 22:47:15 You fix it when you do? Mar 25 22:47:15 "the first two should be enough" Mar 25 22:47:41 jbowler: yeah, that's a good #3 Mar 25 22:48:21 I got the impression before that you (all) didn't want to push core changes either - is that correct Mar 25 22:49:26 we prefer not to make changes to non-nslu-specific packages, unless we first get agreement from kergoth or someone else with some authority on #oe. In all cases where we chance non-nslu-specific packages, we make sure that kergoth is in the loop, cause he does the pulls from nslu2-linux back to oe proper. Mar 25 22:50:20 but it's fine to make openslug-specific additions to oe packages, as you did. Mar 25 22:50:54 we would still give kergoth an FYI so that he is not surprised by the changeset Mar 25 22:52:00 How? Mar 25 22:52:38 just /msg him (he normally idle's in #nslu2-linux and #oe) Mar 25 22:53:27 ok Mar 25 23:01:17 passwd: one trick is to egrep for the crypt password from a root .profile (whatever busybox ash reads) and invoke passwd Mar 25 23:02:09 are we using Dropbear or OpenSSH? Mar 25 23:02:16 dropbear Mar 25 23:02:25 k Mar 25 23:02:37 * ByronT is away -( zzzZZZzzz )- at 01:03a -( P:Off / L:Off )- **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 25 23:59:57 2005