**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 02 23:59:56 2005 Jul 03 05:53:46 puh.. Jul 03 06:48:28 blæh Jul 03 11:55:42 so... when I build packages myself, they are "too new" for my slug.. requiring newer version of for example libc6.. oh well Jul 03 11:55:59 guess I could flash the slug with my own image and hope for the best Jul 03 11:56:15 <[g2]> kolla_, what's up with the gentoo build ? Jul 03 12:02:28 kolla_: so ipkg upgrade doesn't work? I.e. it doesn't install a satisfactory libc6? Jul 03 12:11:07 [g2]: I managed to whipe what I had in a mindless upgrade... :) Jul 03 12:13:10 jbowler-zzz: ipkg upgrade works.. uhm, guess I need to put up my own repository, huh? Jul 03 12:15:11 guess I should read more, rather than just assuming stuff from what I remember from april or so :) Jul 03 12:19:21 Yes: put up your own feed (see the messages I just posted to nslu2-linux), update the wiki too - I haven't tested any of this stuff. Jul 03 14:40:40 jbowler: ping? Jul 03 14:41:45 NAiL: pong Jul 03 14:42:30 yes.. regarding the feeds. I do have a few ideas. But I don't know how much work it'll actually be to be that package manager... Jul 03 14:45:25 If it's something I'm actually capable of doing, I can do it Jul 03 14:45:35 Evening, ka6sox Jul 03 14:46:00 howdy! Jul 03 14:48:18 jbowler: Making branches for different versions, backporting fixes, building the ipkgs into a separate feed. Is that a workable idea? Jul 03 14:49:54 NAiL: I think that's correct, I was just having an animated argument about this (the openslug package manager) off-line. Jul 03 14:50:09 Nail, when I asked you about the package manager task a few days ago, you expressed no interested, are you still th inking about it? Jul 03 14:50:58 dyoung-zzzz: I was trying to express possible incompetence. I'm not sure if I know enough yet. I need to read up on branches, for one thing. Jul 03 14:51:25 I am considering it, yes. If I know that I can do it. Jul 03 14:52:18 Okay, You should ahve been more vocal about that position! Jul 03 14:52:52 Your claim of incompetence was unwarranted I think. Jul 03 14:53:04 hmm.. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about that. Jul 03 14:53:27 How do you feel about your availability of time after the fall semster starts? Jul 03 14:54:28 If things go according to plan, I'll start EE this fall. I will have a fair bit of spare time. Jul 03 14:54:44 I will also be on a 100mbit FD line Jul 03 14:55:18 If things do *not* go according to plan, I'll have even more time to spare. Jul 03 14:56:52 * ka6sox-web isn't so sure about that last statement :-/ Jul 03 14:57:13 <[g2]> NAiL, EE cool! Jul 03 14:57:35 <[g2]> FD ? Jul 03 14:57:38 ka6sox-web: Why not? If I don't get in, I'll have to spend the year retaking maths and physics. I'll spend less time @school than the EE course. Jul 03 14:57:41 Full Duplex. Jul 03 15:00:00 got it. Jul 03 15:07:08 NAiL: so the job is pretty much defined by the package manager (you) The list you had is, I think, complete and it could be less (e.g. on branching) if you want. Jul 03 15:07:22 ugh Jul 03 15:07:31 ? Jul 03 15:07:58 I didn't notice my connection dropped. I haven't recieved anything from the last 8 minutes Jul 03 15:08:16 Full Duplex. Jul 03 15:08:16 got it. Jul 03 15:08:17 NAiL: so the job is pretty much defined by the package manager (you) The list you had is, I think, complete and it could be less (e.g. on branching) if you want. Jul 03 15:08:25 That's all that was said. Jul 03 15:08:51 ok Jul 03 15:09:22 The basic requirement is to make sure the builds keep running and define some way of keeping people who use the feeds happy with the content. Jul 03 15:09:41 keeping a branch for each release makes if far easier, I'd say. Makes controlling the environemt easier Jul 03 15:10:04 yeah Jul 03 15:10:13 That works, particularly with monotone. Jul 03 15:10:18 exactly Jul 03 15:14:18 backporting fixes is optional: I hope other OpenSlug users will start doing that as well. You get a veto on anything going from unstable->more stable of course. Jul 03 15:14:20 I'm always working on getting more packages anyways ;) Jul 03 15:14:37 Right, I noticed :) Jul 03 15:14:56 I've *almost* gotten openntpd to work properly :P Jul 03 15:16:24 Ok, I need to get one thing up right now then... Jul 03 15:16:48 openntp sounds good - at present I always build ntp in (via local.conf) Jul 03 15:17:21 yeah, there's only one small issue right now. It's using the wrong path. But I don't think that's hard to fix. Jul 03 15:17:47 I'm running it on my newslug Jul 03 15:18:39 NAiL, so from the past 30min conversation, do I understand that you *want* to do the job of Openslug Package manager, and are available to do so? Jul 03 15:19:20 Yes. Jul 03 15:19:38 Okay! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 03 23:59:56 2005