**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 27 23:59:56 2005 Jul 28 00:55:02 i'm fattening my slug to 128Mb. Jul 28 00:55:16 i found some surplus ram ... 256Mbit sdram samsung. Jul 28 00:55:20 will that be ok ? Jul 28 00:55:27 it's $M x 16bit x 4 banks Jul 28 00:55:37 sorry... it's 4M x 16bit x 4 banks Jul 28 01:30:02 landstide: what SMT equipment do you have? Jul 28 01:30:39 we have a reflow station here. Jul 28 01:30:45 the techo's are pretty good with this stuff. Jul 28 01:30:54 i want to get 32 x 32 and stack them. Jul 28 01:30:57 for 128Mb in all Jul 28 01:31:10 i'll probably do it tomorrow night, the techo is keen for a challenge. Jul 28 01:31:30 i checked the specs, the chips I have a LVTTL which i think will be ok. Jul 28 01:31:39 they run under 3.6 supply voltage on the slug righ? Jul 28 01:32:10 i'll take photos and post to the wiki Jul 28 01:51:41 3.3V yes Jul 28 01:56:50 sweet. Jul 28 01:57:05 i found a xilink parallel cable 3... will that work for linux? Jul 28 01:57:08 jtag programmer. Jul 28 02:15:48 anyone got a 128Mb slug yet? Jul 28 06:52:11 i have a jtag programmer. i've connected it up to the slug... it's a xilinx parallel cable III. Jul 28 06:52:25 i'm using linux's openwince-jtag programmer Jul 28 06:52:37 do i need to connect the 5v Vcc rail on the programmer to the device? Jul 28 06:52:45 i'm trying to get it to work through vmware aswell.. Jul 28 06:52:48 probably a lost cause. Jul 28 06:53:30 you might have more success asking in #openjtag ;-) Jul 28 07:24:03 anyone know of an irc channel for the asus wl-series? Jul 28 09:10:25 kolla_: there is no IRC for the wl500g as far as I know. The wl500g.info forum is the main communication mechanism. Jul 28 09:10:38 If it's in relation to optware packages on the wl500g, feel free to use #nslu2-linux Jul 28 09:11:02 If it's in relation to openwrt, then #openwrt would be best. Jul 28 10:28:06 Hi all. Jul 28 10:29:07 I want to use the nfs swap future of openslug (http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/MountNFSSwapPartition), but seems to be normaly impossible (swapon: /dev/loop0: Function not implemented). Did you patch the swapon-code or how do you guys do that? Jul 28 10:42:02 I'd use NBD for swap instead of nfs Jul 28 10:42:22 No Big Deal? Jul 28 10:42:35 network block device Jul 28 10:43:17 * ka6sox-office goes back to finding coffee. Jul 28 10:58:51 morlenxus: are you sure you did every step? nfs swap works for atleast me, and probably some more Jul 28 11:28:33 DaKa2: Well i use www.crux.nu but i want to use it. Jul 28 11:29:54 ah.. then I have no idea.. Jul 28 11:30:10 I just know it works in openslug with those instrutions Jul 28 11:30:34 Hm there must be a patch. Jul 28 11:30:49 It's rea;;y useful for me. Jul 28 11:34:06 hm.. I cannot find a patch in the repository...only one for a completly different distribution using 2.4.20.. Jul 28 12:03:50 DaKa2: Well, it isn't normal that you can run swapon on a nfs file, i tried that in the past. Jul 28 12:03:54 There must be something. Jul 28 12:04:06 Maybe nfs or losetup? Jul 28 12:09:58 hm.. I've used nfs swap on 65 linux terminal clients in the past, and that needed a kernel patch, but that was 2.4 Jul 28 12:11:26 but I dont know.. I just know it works in openslug :-) Jul 28 12:12:01 :=/ Jul 28 12:12:48 I use cds for the pcs on my work, and the ram is limited to 256, that's enought for running firefox and openoffice, but it would be better, when there would be swap. Jul 28 12:16:28 my main ws at home has no swap at all :-) Jul 28 12:16:47 ofcourse, it has 2gb of ram instead Jul 28 12:28:38 DaKa2: Well in my company the normal workers are using those cds. Jul 28 12:29:11 So i have no installation to do, if a new worker needs a pc, i don't need to fix corrupt system files, ... Jul 28 12:30:14 seems good, and I can see the need for swap.. Jul 28 15:43:19 I installed all those development-packages and download the openslug sources from berlios (only 19mb) and extracted it. But there is (quite obvious) no kernel source in it. Where do I find the patched and read-to-go sources for Openslug? Jul 28 15:44:57 Do I have to download the standard arm-sources and apply these patches in /openembedded/packages/linux/nslu2-kernel/2.6.12 ? Jul 28 15:45:05 it downloads it when it builds it. Jul 28 15:45:36 well, I don't want to build the whole openembedded, just the kernel, because I want to add some kernel modules... Jul 28 15:45:49 actually misdn and hfcs-usb Jul 28 15:46:45 Well does someone of you know, why i can mount a swap over nfs with openslug, but not with a normal linux system? Jul 28 15:47:29 losetup works? Jul 28 15:48:20 Well yes, but normally it isn't possible to mount swap over nfs, there must be a patch. Jul 28 15:49:14 malfi: it downloads only the things you ask it to build. if you only build the kernel, it won't download all the packages Jul 28 15:51:14 * malfi thanks rwhitby. Jul 28 15:59:49 what's the reason for openslug not using uclib by default? Jul 28 15:59:51 DaKa2: we should be able to use DISTRO=native for openslug native builds. Jul 28 16:00:18 malfi: cause in general you have a 200Gb hard disk rootfs, and uclibc compatibility for building stuff is much worse than glibc Jul 28 16:00:45 but we attempt to keep openslug able to build for uclibc anyway Jul 28 16:00:59 rwhitby: oh the native.conf works for us? Jul 28 16:01:20 DaKa2: dunno, haven't tried. but by definition it should (and we should fix it if it doesn't) Jul 28 16:01:26 saves us having an openslug-native.conf Jul 28 16:02:49 yep.. dunno if I think the assume_provided is ok, my thought was actually ipkg installing everything not needing native building.. but that works too, just have to build lots of extra stuff Jul 28 16:02:56 BTW, make setup and make update now work without change on native openslug Jul 28 16:03:45 DaKa2: the assume provided in native.conf should be fixed if it's not enough for openslug native. it wouldn't have been tested, but we can propose additions Jul 28 16:04:12 DaKa2: the download of the db has been added to the master makefile as the default behaviour now Jul 28 16:04:18 how much space can you squeeze out, using only a minimal openslug and uclibc? Jul 28 16:04:37 dunno, ask jbowler-away or VoodooZ_Log Jul 28 16:04:43 ah, good, then there is not much left Jul 28 16:04:45 okay Jul 28 16:05:02 DaKa2: yeah, we're getting close now Jul 28 16:06:27 on the slug it will probably be quicker to download a new database if you let the number of outstanding revisions go past 10. Jul 28 16:06:54 its slow even on my box with more than 10 revisions.. Jul 28 16:08:33 how long does it approximatly take to compile the whole openslug thingy on a fairly recent machine (amd64-3000) ? Jul 28 16:09:06 malfi: maybe 4-5 hours Jul 28 16:09:11 or less... or more.. Jul 28 16:09:36 DaKa2: okay thanks Jul 28 16:11:26 --01:08:25-- http://www.oesources.org/source/current/familiar.dist.ipkg_cvs.handhelds.org_V0-99-151_.tar.gz Connecting to www.oesources.org[192.216.230.225]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found Jul 28 16:11:49 well, interesting Jul 28 16:13:44 malfi: are you using the master makefile? Jul 28 16:14:41 * malfi nods. Jul 28 16:14:58 I've read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BuildingTheSource Jul 28 16:16:07 "3." doesn't seems to be needed with OpenSlug 2.3 Jul 28 16:16:15 seem Jul 28 16:16:27 all that's out of date now. Use http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheMasterMakefile Jul 28 16:16:43 stupid me Jul 28 16:16:55 no, things are just moving fast right now Jul 28 16:17:08 feel free to update any outdated wiki pages to point to that one Jul 28 16:17:35 Yeah, I add a note, that with 2.3 and up someone should rather use the link you pointed out Jul 28 16:18:03 actually that link replaces *all* nslu2-linux related build information Jul 28 16:18:25 what do you propose? Jul 28 16:19:04 just noting that all other build information is now out of date, as the master makefile replaces it all Jul 28 16:19:07 as there seems to be no reason, that someone could want to build the old 2.0 openslug, it might be wise to replace that Jul 28 16:19:46 we only just got the master makefile stable for all four cross builds yesterday, so the wiki update is lagging Jul 28 16:24:25 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheMasterMakefile doesn't say anything about versioning, does it always use head? Jul 28 16:26:22 yes. Jul 28 16:26:48 there should be a 2.3 tag in the monotone repo - feel free to add that info if it works. Jul 28 16:27:32 I make no guarantees about being able to build previous versions. In my book, you're either helping test the lastest version, or you're using a binary :-) Jul 28 16:28:01 I want to build misdn support in my slug-kernel, because I hope to use my nslu2 as a small pbx with asterisk and that usb-isdn as a pots-adapter. Jul 28 16:28:26 if you do it as a kernel module, we can add it to the standard openslug build Jul 28 16:28:48 I'm going to face all those ugly endian-issues with misdn, but I will try to see, how far I get. Jul 28 16:29:13 misdn isn't even officially integrated in the mainstream kernel-branch Jul 28 16:30:19 okay, I will try out this master makefile and hopefully dig a bit into that build process Jul 28 16:30:42 ok Jul 28 17:59:44 I hope this Mastermakefile doesn't build gcc and binutils everytime... Jul 28 18:03:55 for openslug? Jul 28 18:04:16 it will build it whenever the version being used for the toolchain changes (which isn't often) Jul 28 18:09:10 fine Jul 28 18:35:37 waaah Jul 28 18:35:40 NOTE: Unpacking /mnt/nfs/mp3/slung/usr/src/OpenSlug-head/downloads/linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1.tar.bz2 Jul 28 18:35:57 why isn't it 2.6.12 ? Jul 28 18:37:23 I know that the kernel headers aren't that important, because the kernel api doesn't change that often, but it seems they are going the bleeding-edge way as they're including 2.6.11, why not the newest headers as the kernel is also 2.6.12? Jul 28 18:39:35 IIRC, there is an issue with that kernel Jul 28 18:39:41 as in a non-booting issue Jul 28 18:40:40 ah ic **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 23:59:56 2005