**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 18 02:59:56 2005 Aug 18 03:06:48 <-- aquadran has quit ("leaving" (null)) Aug 18 03:17:47 --> cbrake_away (n=cbrake@cpe-204-210-216-174.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 03:17:58 <-- marceln has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Aug 18 03:20:10 <-- cbrake_away has quit (Client Quit) Aug 18 03:25:38 --> cbrake (n=cbrake@cpe-204-210-216-174.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 03:26:00 --- cbrake is now known as cbrake_away Aug 18 03:27:59 --- reenoo is now known as reenoo__ Aug 18 03:28:04 --- reenoo__ is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 03:39:17 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_lunch Aug 18 03:41:18 <-- odoc has quit ("changing servers") Aug 18 03:46:03 <-- eumel has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.11/20050728]") Aug 18 03:50:26 ok Aug 18 03:50:31 bug report time Aug 18 03:50:34 OpenNTPD Aug 18 03:50:57 WHY does it act perfectly as a server, synchronising my Mac to the exact right time Aug 18 03:51:47 but not be able to get the date command on the NSLU2 to that same, correct time Aug 18 03:52:14 the date command is about 15 seconds slow, whereas the Mac agrees perfectly with time.gov Aug 18 03:55:07 --- geojeff|away is now known as geojeff Aug 18 03:55:19 <-- LordVan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 03:59:13 --> eumel (n=chatzill@p548302A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #openslug Aug 18 03:59:56 --- smw is now known as stephmw Aug 18 04:01:50 --> zin_ (n=administ@60.48.99.139) has joined #openslug Aug 18 04:02:52 hmm, I'm going to try OpenNTPD 3.6.1p1 with the Debian patches Aug 18 04:03:16 it made it into Debian stable for ARM, so it should, hopefully, be tested and reliable (as long as there are no endian issues) Aug 18 04:04:13 <-- cbrake_away has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 04:05:57 --- CoreDump|home is now known as CoreDump|afk Aug 18 04:11:56 --- rwhitby is now known as rwhitby-asleep Aug 18 04:14:34 --- rwhitby-asleep is now known as rwhitby-away Aug 18 04:28:51 --- reenoo_lunch is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 04:30:51 <-- tonymy01_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 04:36:45 --- ZonE-HaKin9|FooD is now known as ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 18 04:39:04 <-- Timelord has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Aug 18 04:54:17 --- mickey|zzZZzz is now known as mickeyl Aug 18 05:04:37 <-- mcfly587 has quit ("Bye tout le monde ! :)") Aug 18 05:07:38 --- ZonE-HaKin9 is now known as ZonE-HaKin9|Zzzz Aug 18 05:24:14 <-- LordVan has quit ("I'm leaving now .. but i'll definitely be back ;)") Aug 18 05:32:41 --- chouimat|Zzzz is now known as chouimat Aug 18 05:47:01 <-- CP|AtHome has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 05:48:38 <-- bluelightning has quit ("bye" (null)) Aug 18 05:48:46 --- VoodooZ_Log is now known as VoodooZ_Work Aug 18 05:54:28 --- geojeff is now known as geojeff|afk Aug 18 05:54:58 <-- BigAl has quit ("BitchX: the un-Cola") Aug 18 06:10:19 --- drw|bbl is now known as drw Aug 18 06:11:28 --> cbrake (n=cbrake@cpe-204-210-216-174.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 06:12:54 --> malfi (n=malte@dsl-082-082-188-107.arcor-ip.net) has joined #openslug Aug 18 06:23:36 --> blaster8_ (n=jonesml@user-122-216-151-83.e7even.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 06:23:41 <-- noclouds has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 06:25:16 blaster8_: is your time off with openntpd? Aug 18 06:25:27 it's odd Aug 18 06:25:35 openntpd tracks the time perfectly Aug 18 06:25:52 but it doesn't seems to synchronise the clock on the NSLU2 right Aug 18 06:25:57 about 13 seconds slow Aug 18 06:26:03 blaster8_: it uses ages to adjust the clock Aug 18 06:26:17 ? Aug 18 06:26:30 look in /var/log/messages, and see if it's adjusting the clock Aug 18 06:26:36 isn't it patched to use adjtimex? Aug 18 06:27:00 It is, but that seems to be broken. Aug 18 06:27:01 I'm not getting any messages in /var/log//messages about clock updating Aug 18 06:27:09 hmm Aug 18 06:27:19 I did when I first installed it, but I don't get any more despite restarting and reloading the process Aug 18 06:27:19 Try removing -s in /etc/init.d/openntpd Aug 18 06:27:43 I will, but not this munite Aug 18 06:27:57 trying to fix a different piece of hardware :) Aug 18 06:29:22 <-- do13[offline] has quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) Aug 18 06:30:59 <-- blaster8_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 06:32:27 <-- blaster8 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 06:34:52 --> blaster8 (n=jonesml@user-122-216-151-83.e7even.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 06:37:10 aaaaugh Aug 18 06:37:22 Something keeps resetting my /etc/syslog.conf file Aug 18 06:37:30 It keeps getting set to "buffer" Aug 18 06:37:51 Syslog hasn't been logging for two days again Aug 18 06:39:04 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_garden Aug 18 06:42:22 <-- ByronT-Away has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 06:53:30 <-- france has quit ("Client Exiting") Aug 18 06:55:11 <-- cbrake has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") Aug 18 07:03:16 --> ByronT-Away (i=ByronT@nslu2-linux/ByronT) has joined #openslug Aug 18 07:03:25 <-- __law__ has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 07:04:06 --- ByronT-Away is now known as ByronT Aug 18 07:11:24 <-- kolla has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 07:15:30 <-- kergoth_ has quit ("leaving" (null)) Aug 18 07:17:58 --> kolla (i=kolla@firda.kolla.no) has joined #OpenSlug Aug 18 07:21:15 --- geojeff|afk is now known as geojeff Aug 18 07:24:30 <-- blaster8 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 07:25:05 --- CP|AtHome is now known as CosmicPenguin Aug 18 07:31:26 --- reenoo_garden is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 07:43:04 --> cbrake (n=cbrake@cpe-204-210-216-174.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 07:49:47 <-- Timelord has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Aug 18 07:52:21 <-- zin_ has quit ( (null)) Aug 18 08:05:05 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_afk Aug 18 08:08:17 --> zin_ (n=administ@60.48.98.182) has joined #openslug Aug 18 08:14:34 <-- TomPower has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.8/20050513]") Aug 18 08:15:45 <-- JuergenE has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 08:26:26 <-- tonymy01_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 08:27:23 <-- LordVan has quit (Excess Flood) Aug 18 08:32:20 <-- eumel has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.11/20050728]") Aug 18 08:33:52 hi Aug 18 08:36:45 is there a known bug with openslug2 and big usb-harddisks? (one month working great .. then io-errors) (the disk is ok ;/) Aug 18 08:38:46 <-- eJumbo has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 08:48:21 define "big" Aug 18 08:50:40 --> blaster8 (n=jonesml@user-122-216-151-83.e7even.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 08:55:40 --- XorA is now known as XorA|gone Aug 18 08:58:37 <-- dkey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 08:59:17 --> mcfly587 (n=mcfly587@117-236.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) has joined #openslug Aug 18 09:00:45 --> [g2] (n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2) has joined #openslug Aug 18 09:12:17 --- JustinP|zZz is now known as JustinP Aug 18 09:16:33 <-- zinga has quit ("leaving" (null)) Aug 18 09:23:59 --- reenoo_afk is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 09:33:24 <-- luke-jr_ has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 09:42:42 --- stephmw is now known as Twiun[away] Aug 18 09:49:18 <-- mallum has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 09:57:26 --- NSLU2-IRC is now known as stytchwrx Aug 18 10:03:07 <-- blgoeris has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") Aug 18 10:15:54 --> [cc]smart (n=smart@gw.ptr-62-65-149-158.customer.ch.netstream.com) has joined #openslug Aug 18 10:17:46 --- mickeyl is now known as mickey|bbl Aug 18 10:21:27 --- ByronT is now known as ByronT-Away Aug 18 10:30:43 big=500gig (first partition 100gig) Aug 18 10:31:11 hmm .. ByronT is away .. im to slow :P^ Aug 18 10:31:39 --- ByronT-Away is now known as ByronT Aug 18 10:31:51 <-- pb_ has quit ("Client exiting") Aug 18 10:31:55 ahh back? Aug 18 10:32:06 big = 500M Aug 18 10:32:53 sorry 500G ;) Aug 18 10:32:54 I wouldn't think 500GB should be any issue at all - I've run with 320GB before without issues (and I'm usually testing by moving a folder of CD and DVD ISOs) Aug 18 10:33:23 <-- drw has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") Aug 18 10:33:37 i dont understand it .. working long without problem Aug 18 10:34:00 possibility of just general hd issues? Aug 18 10:34:03 then i did updatedb and it crashed the filesystem ;/ Aug 18 10:34:35 i did not test another HD Aug 18 10:35:32 the HD have no hardware errors Aug 18 10:35:48 --- gremlin[it] is now known as gremlin[it]|feed Aug 18 10:37:30 running badblocks with writetest -> all ok Aug 18 10:37:57 you could post to -general mailing list asking for someone else to replicate issue then Aug 18 10:39:36 its an idea Aug 18 10:39:47 :) Aug 18 10:48:01 --> eumel (n=chatzill@p54832870.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #openslug Aug 18 10:49:42 <[g2]> blaster8, ping Aug 18 10:49:49 ello Aug 18 10:50:28 <[g2]> is http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/IptablesConnTrack Aug 18 10:50:35 indeed Aug 18 10:50:43 is what, perchance? Aug 18 10:50:58 <[g2]> the way you want it for connection tracking ? Aug 18 10:51:12 how do you mean, the way I want it? Aug 18 10:51:37 --> gerdi_ (n=gerdi@p54B2F911.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #openslug Aug 18 10:51:43 it can definitely be improved Aug 18 10:51:43 <[g2]> I mean that page and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugIptables Aug 18 10:51:51 <[g2]> are almost identical Aug 18 10:51:59 yes, two big firewall scripts on one page could be confusing Aug 18 10:52:09 and the Connection Tracking stuff is more experimental Aug 18 10:52:23 especially when both scripts are very nearly the same, atm Aug 18 10:52:28 <[g2]> are you playing with TC at all ? Aug 18 10:52:40 blaster8: mind moving /etc/firewall to /etc/init.d/firewall? ;) Aug 18 10:52:47 yes Aug 18 10:53:14 aha, it's done later Aug 18 10:53:18 just ignore me Aug 18 10:53:23 <[g2]> I was looking at some iptable generation scripts Aug 18 10:53:24 the idea is that you have can have a copy that you are messing about with, and a copy that goes on bootup Aug 18 10:53:55 and if you have the symbolic link, then you are in danger, as it were Aug 18 10:53:56 <[g2]> I think it'd be nice to put a front-end on the iptable generation Aug 18 10:54:04 it's called shorewall Aug 18 10:54:27 and it isn't as secure as I'd like it to be, and it requires3 TC Aug 18 10:54:28 <[g2]> shorewall does iptable generation ? Aug 18 10:54:33 which is a bit of a mess in Linux Aug 18 10:54:44 http://www.shorewall.net/ Aug 18 10:54:59 'is a high level tool for configuring Netfilter' Aug 18 10:55:34 <[g2]> and I think the default policy would be drop with accepts for stuff we want btw Aug 18 10:56:01 it's that atm Aug 18 10:56:03 why is my openslug build skipping over a package i've added? it built it once, but won't do it again. i'm sure there is just a file I need to remove... anybody know? Aug 18 10:56:15 you need to bump the revision number Aug 18 10:56:27 --- marceln is now known as marceln-away Aug 18 10:56:27 in the bb file? Aug 18 10:56:37 or remove openslug/tmp/stamps/whateveritis* Aug 18 10:56:38 PR="2" Aug 18 10:56:48 or something like that Aug 18 10:56:48 and openslug/tmp/work/whateveritis* Aug 18 10:56:55 either will do Aug 18 10:57:06 see, learning the ropes :) Aug 18 10:57:21 i rm'ed openslug/tmp/work/whatever, and this made no difference. i'll try the stamps... Aug 18 10:58:23 yeah, learning the ropes!!! it's a cool system once you get the hang of it. finally, some build env. takes the mess of dependencies and handles it nicely. Aug 18 10:58:47 exactly - shame that the packages themselves aren't kept properly up to date though :( Aug 18 10:58:59 except if NSLU2 devteam do it themselves of course Aug 18 10:59:08 --- Delta__ is now known as Delta_ Aug 18 10:59:14 bingo. rm stamps did it. Aug 18 10:59:17 <[g2]> well a rm -rf tmp does it Aug 18 10:59:31 i just wanted the one package. Aug 18 10:59:33 but then it rebuilds everryything Aug 18 10:59:49 <[g2]> I'm not suggesting that Aug 18 10:59:53 and sometimes it is handy to keep your old openslug images hanging around Aug 18 11:00:04 <[g2]> I was responding to making sure everything is "up-to-date" Aug 18 11:00:09 --- Twiun[away] is now known as Twiun Aug 18 11:00:55 [g2]: No I mean that if you want to compile new software for NSLU2, you often have to write the .bb files yourself, rather than have another project who has already done that for you Aug 18 11:01:02 ah, now just have to figure out how to package it! Aug 18 11:01:24 [g2]: and often the .bb files in place are appalling - no init scripts, no patches, hardcoded links and all Aug 18 11:01:45 <[g2]> blaster8 it's all relative with 2500+ .bb files in OE f Aug 18 11:01:54 <[g2]> s/f// Aug 18 11:02:01 compare openntpd3.6.1p1.bb (done by kergoth in #oe) with openntpd3.7p1.bb (done by NAiL here) Aug 18 11:02:18 <[g2]> it's a work in progress Aug 18 11:02:22 definitely Aug 18 11:02:43 <[g2]> I think much of the stuff is stable enough to build a baseline from it Aug 18 11:02:50 <[g2]> it really a churn problem Aug 18 11:03:01 <[g2]> and lack of focused development effort Aug 18 11:03:12 the issue comes when you fork gentoo's portage, but don't have the number of devs to maintain it Aug 18 11:03:25 even gentoo can't keep up sometimes Aug 18 11:03:48 <[g2]> well gentoo-embedded is easily 6-10 months behind OE Aug 18 11:03:49 still, more projects mean more users mean more devs Aug 18 11:04:06 <[g2]> yes there is a cycle to adoption Aug 18 11:04:28 <[g2]> GNAP is a good thing though (tm) Aug 18 11:05:39 <[g2]> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap.xml Aug 18 11:06:27 had a look at it today Aug 18 11:06:39 <-- gerdi__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 11:08:29 blaster8: the openntpd3.7p1.bb was originally by kergoth Aug 18 11:08:37 aah, I see Aug 18 11:08:52 I took it over, after not recieving a response at all Aug 18 11:09:03 still am surprised he committed the original 3.6.1 though Aug 18 11:10:13 <[g2]> so what's the difference/advantabe of openntp over ntp ? Aug 18 11:10:23 [g2]: smaller footprint Aug 18 11:10:40 <[g2]> how much smaller ? Aug 18 11:10:43 the other advantage is that the current openntpd package supports an init script Aug 18 11:10:46 5x smaller Aug 18 11:10:56 sorry, has an init script (oops) Aug 18 11:11:09 <[g2]> ntp has an init script too Aug 18 11:11:11 almost there.... how do I get Packages* updated to include my new package? Aug 18 11:11:13 blaster8: yes. I put the initscript there ;) Aug 18 11:11:20 <[g2]> bb package-index Aug 18 11:11:37 simple enough (-; Aug 18 11:12:31 <[g2]> how big is openntp ? Aug 18 11:13:03 the binary is 54k Aug 18 11:13:08 52 Aug 18 11:13:22 <[g2]> it ntp really 250K ? Aug 18 11:14:02 yes :) Aug 18 11:14:16 and the mem requirements are much smaller, IIRC Aug 18 11:17:28 found a new web server :) Aug 18 11:17:37 <[g2]> AppWeb ? Aug 18 11:17:43 http://www.boa.org/ Aug 18 11:17:46 <[g2]> boa Aug 18 11:17:57 <[g2]> done with mini_http Aug 18 11:18:13 ? Aug 18 11:18:29 <[g2]> did you like mini_httpd ? Aug 18 11:18:40 well, it works v well in m0n0wall Aug 18 11:18:55 but that is x86 based Aug 18 11:19:05 and it supports SSL neatly Aug 18 11:19:17 and PHP too, apparently Aug 18 11:20:07 <-- LordVan has quit ("I'm leaving now .. but i'll definitely be back ;)") Aug 18 11:22:53 hadn't yet got round to compiling it on Openslug Aug 18 11:25:25 --> hanjo (n=hanjo@pD9533407.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #openslug Aug 18 11:50:23 <-- ar_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 11:56:30 <-- treke has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 11:58:38 --- geojeff is now known as geojeff|away Aug 18 12:02:04 <-- stytchwrx has quit ( (null)) Aug 18 12:02:57 <-- VoodooZ_Work has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 12:08:38 <-- Delta_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 12:18:49 <-- NSLU2-IRC has quit ( (null)) Aug 18 12:22:51 --- Delta__ is now known as Delta- Aug 18 12:23:07 --- Delta- is now known as Delta_ Aug 18 12:28:11 <-- Joschi has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 12:28:22 --- blaster8 is now known as blaster8-wales Aug 18 12:40:03 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_kitchen Aug 18 12:43:46 * kolla adds sn9c102-support to his kernel to support the üverfancy (not) webcam he just bought Aug 18 12:43:56 über... 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Aug 18 14:23:08 <-- ar_ has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") Aug 18 14:25:09 <-- pH5 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 14:30:24 <-- mcfly587 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 14:31:14 --> hanjo_ (n=hanjo@pD95317C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #openslug Aug 18 14:37:25 juhu... webcam on openslug Aug 18 14:37:45 neat Aug 18 14:38:32 149,- på Clahs Aug 18 14:38:36 heh Aug 18 14:39:06 so, driver is loaded and finds the cam.. now I just need to find some grabber Aug 18 14:39:28 gphoto2? Aug 18 14:40:23 <-- man-di has quit ("Client exiting") Aug 18 14:40:40 ok? thought that was just some.. photo album stuff Aug 18 14:41:06 no, I use it to grab stuff from my IXUS. I think you can do some webcam stuff with it as well Aug 18 14:41:18 <-- hanjo_ has left #openslug () Aug 18 14:41:18 <-- hanjo_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 14:41:33 oh.. "access digital cameras" Aug 18 14:41:52 --- CoreDump|afk is now known as CoreDump|home Aug 18 14:41:53 --- drw is now known as drw|bbl Aug 18 14:41:56 I can give it a shot :) Aug 18 14:42:15 won't hurt ;) Aug 18 14:47:07 <-- gremlin[it]|feed has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 14:47:27 <-- hanjo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 14:48:31 <-- hufnus has quit (Connection timed out) Aug 18 14:52:06 neat Aug 18 14:52:18 * NAiL just found the pinouts for the serialport on the Synology DS 101 Aug 18 14:52:36 RAM: 0x00000000-0x20000000, [0x00022850-0x1fff1000] available Aug 18 14:52:36 FLASH: 0x00000000 - 0x00000001, 0 blocks of 0x00000000 bytes each. Aug 18 14:52:36 Synology RedBoot Version : Synology Aug 10 2004 11:03:06 Aug 18 14:57:03 new toy? :) Aug 18 14:58:04 kinda Aug 18 14:58:09 It's not mine for long though Aug 18 14:59:08 been pondering on getting a box from embeddedarm.com.. TLS-7200 iirc, or perhaps gumstix Aug 18 14:59:25 just love how one can buy tiny machines cheaply these days :) Aug 18 14:59:46 instead of machine room, I have a machine shelve :) Aug 18 15:00:08 yeah Aug 18 15:00:13 The DS101 looks really nice though Aug 18 15:00:33 * kolla googles Aug 18 15:00:42 There's not much info on it Aug 18 15:00:50 It's an IXP420 Aug 18 15:00:50 too many non-relevant hits :) Aug 18 15:00:53 ok Aug 18 15:00:59 with a disk on a IDE-interface Aug 18 15:01:18 64MB ram, possibly 16mb flash (not quite sure about that though) Aug 18 15:01:34 <-- ZonE-HaKin9|Zzzz has quit (K-lined (null)) Aug 18 15:01:34 I got around to getting the viper modchip for my gamecube the other week.. today I went to buy cable and managed to pick up wrong cable.. sigh Aug 18 15:01:38 The jtag port is clearly marked as such, and the serial port doesn't require soldering Aug 18 15:01:50 cool Aug 18 15:01:52 ie, the header is already there Aug 18 15:02:11 There's even room for a minipci slot. Wonder if it's possible to make that work :-P Aug 18 15:02:31 :) Aug 18 15:02:56 --- rwhitby-away is now known as rwhitby Aug 18 15:02:57 I really hope it's not too hard to get network and stuff running Aug 18 15:03:17 well.. ok, network shouldn't be too hard considering it's an ixp Aug 18 15:03:36 the IDE stuff seems to be a standard via thingy Aug 18 15:04:24 <-- llagendijk has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 15:04:53 Though, I think it's actually possible to get the second network port to work on this thing Aug 18 15:06:13 I think the lines are pulled out on the PCB. It misses the tranciever-thingy and the port Aug 18 15:07:52 solderjob :) Aug 18 15:08:06 btw.. gphoto2 tells me that it doesnt know about my cam Aug 18 15:08:11 shame Aug 18 15:08:30 and here I thought v4l2 was .. like.. abstraction :) Aug 18 15:08:53 I used xawtv earlier for such Aug 18 15:09:41 guess I can patch gphoto2 though Aug 18 15:09:54 find some other supported cam with same chip and jst create an entry Aug 18 15:10:42 <-- ar_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 15:13:20 <-- darkschneider has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 15:13:33 urrr Aug 18 15:13:39 I think the synology is fscking Aug 18 15:13:45 And it's taking forever Aug 18 15:14:33 It's got a 250GB disk Aug 18 15:15:32 If I could get openslug on it, it'd make a marvellous development box :D Aug 18 15:17:06 <[g2]> why such a good dev box ? Aug 18 15:17:27 It's got 64mb ram, unlike my slugs ;) Aug 18 15:17:44 <[g2]> I should be getting units next week Aug 18 15:17:57 And it's in one box, so it's a bit neater than the slug ;) Aug 18 15:18:19 <[g2]> same here with a microdrive in the CF slot Aug 18 15:18:29 hehe, yeah Aug 18 15:18:52 <[g2]> the 2G microdrives are only $101 at newegg Aug 18 15:19:06 how much are the 250Gb ones :-) Aug 18 15:19:14 haha Aug 18 15:19:32 <[g2]> they're macrodrivers :) Aug 18 15:20:19 --- cbrake is now known as cbrake_away Aug 18 15:20:52 oh.. dmesg did say more.. Aug 18 15:20:55 usb 3-1: No supported image sensor detected Aug 18 15:21:03 sob.. Aug 18 15:22:14 ah well, it was cheap :) Aug 18 15:24:19 --- ByronT is now known as ByronT-Away Aug 18 15:25:35 <-- jamey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 15:26:26 <-- [g2] has quit ("G'nite all") Aug 18 15:30:56 ah, the USB-controller is VIA Aug 18 15:33:59 I ordered a CF-slot from elfa today, intend to piggy-pack it ontop of the pcmcia slot in my amiga 600, hehe Aug 18 15:35:06 heh Aug 18 15:35:08 nice Aug 18 15:35:09 <-- keturn has quit ("brb" (null)) Aug 18 15:35:16 NAiL: re syslog.conf - is it in CONFFILES? Aug 18 15:35:25 finding 16bits pcmcia cards isnt that easy today, and CF cards dont stick out that much :) Aug 18 15:35:51 NAiL: quite, especially now when there's prism2 driver :) Aug 18 15:36:15 rwhitby: IIRC, yes. 2 sec Aug 18 15:36:41 CONFFILES_${PN} = "${sysconfdir}/syslog.conf" Aug 18 15:40:08 <-- AdamBaker has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") Aug 18 15:40:26 NAiL: you know about the ds101 hacking yahoo group, right? Aug 18 15:43:49 DaKa: any progress on apache for openslug? Aug 18 15:47:24 <-- france_ has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 15:49:27 <-- twan has quit ("Bezig met verlaten") Aug 18 15:50:57 rwhitby: no Aug 18 15:51:05 not until just now ;) Aug 18 15:51:14 an nslu2-linux guy started it. Aug 18 15:51:38 ds101-linux or something like that I think Aug 18 15:52:06 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synology/ Aug 18 15:52:35 yeah, I'm looking at it right now Aug 18 15:57:20 oh, neat-oh Aug 18 15:57:23 Binaries compiled for Linksys NSLU2 seem to run on DS-101. Aug 18 15:57:23 I downloaded and extracted busybox from: Aug 18 15:57:23 http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?package=busybox-base Aug 18 15:57:23 This seems to run on DS-101 without problems. Aug 18 15:57:42 Using the unslung feed, I'd guess Aug 18 15:57:59 no wonder we are getting so many hits. Aug 18 15:58:44 hehe Aug 18 15:59:37 oh Aug 18 15:59:51 it uses some dead simple routine to generate the root pw Aug 18 16:00:19 and it runs the webserver as root. That webserver has php3... You can upload files to the web folder... Aug 18 16:00:38 * NAiL goes exec()'ing Aug 18 16:04:38 write an ipkg installer in php for it ... Aug 18 16:04:56 heh Aug 18 16:05:03 Someone tried to ipkg install dropbear Aug 18 16:05:09 but that overwrote his libc6 Aug 18 16:05:16 and then it refused to boot ;) Aug 18 16:05:56 we could do an optware feed for it if you like ... Aug 18 16:07:36 I'll need to figure out how this box works, and then we could set that up... Aug 18 16:07:39 There's two versions though Aug 18 16:08:05 The DS 101 (ixp420bb) and the DS 101g+ (Some ppc cpu) Aug 18 16:08:26 I'd really like the 101g+, since it has a gb nic Aug 18 16:10:10 <-- drw|bbl has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 16:13:55 and S-ATA Aug 18 16:13:59 * NAiL drools Aug 18 16:15:12 It's twice the price of the slug though Aug 18 16:15:14 the 101g+ without a harddisk is still rather pricey, a store here lists it for like 260 EUR Aug 18 16:15:19 for the non g+ version Aug 18 16:15:26 yeah, it's expensive Aug 18 16:15:39 that's like 5 slugs from ebay ;) Aug 18 16:15:44 hahah ;) Aug 18 16:17:52 I'm longing for a consumer roboter with embedded linux. like that ugly dog from sony Aug 18 16:18:52 <-- zin_ has left #openslug () Aug 18 16:19:29 There's some fancy stuff in redboot.. Aug 18 16:19:46 http://opensyn.kynisk.com/bootlog Aug 18 16:20:02 <-- pb_ has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 16:20:05 Can't identify FLASH, sorry, man Aug 18 16:20:08 * malfi giggles. Aug 18 16:20:25 hehehe ;) Aug 18 16:21:03 NAiL: put serial on it yet? Aug 18 16:21:27 rwhitby: yes. The output is in the logfile above Aug 18 16:21:38 The header is already on the board, so there's no need to solder Aug 18 16:21:41 oh, that's your page ... :-) Aug 18 16:21:45 yes ;) Aug 18 16:22:11 There's jtag too, and it's clearly marked as such ;) Aug 18 16:22:38 It looks like it's built for hacking ;) Aug 18 16:22:49 * rwhitby is glad we brought DaKa online with OpenSlug packages, cause he thinks NAiL might be a bit distracted for a while ... Aug 18 16:22:58 nah Aug 18 16:23:07 I won't have this box longer than this weekend Aug 18 16:23:30 I've been given a simple task.. Get a wins-server running on it, and get dhcp running. Aug 18 16:23:36 phew! Aug 18 16:23:56 I'll get paid to do it though. Quite possibly enough to buy myself one ;) Aug 18 16:24:25 WGT634U looks like a nice hacking job too *onder* Aug 18 16:24:38 that's ... netgear, innit? Aug 18 16:25:03 I've got a netgear router I've gotta hack too ;) Aug 18 16:25:06 yeah, it's got an USB2 Port and a mini-pci slot with a 54mbit Atheros wifi card in it Aug 18 16:25:40 ah, can't remember exactly which router I've got, but it's got a minipci slot, and a DSL interface Aug 18 16:25:45 this openslug turnup would make this box shine Aug 18 16:25:53 it's more or less like the wrt54g, except it's got dsl Aug 18 16:26:00 but no USB? Aug 18 16:26:04 nope :( Aug 18 16:26:07 DG834G Aug 18 16:26:26 that's why I'm thinking about buying a wgt634u Aug 18 16:26:41 rwhitby: I won't stop doing openslug stuff. I'm going to try to get the synology to work the same way ;) Aug 18 16:28:58 The DS101 has three USB2 ports Aug 18 16:29:18 So I can attach two external disks/printers/stuff, and a memstick in the fromt Aug 18 16:29:20 front Aug 18 16:31:58 oh, they already got a 2.6 kernel running on the wgt634u http://www.nomis52.net/?section=projects§2=netgear&page=kernel Aug 18 16:32:22 <-- reenoo_ has quit ("sleep" (null)) Aug 18 16:33:41 <-- Timelord0 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 16:42:14 hmm Aug 18 16:42:55 the sources for the ixp stuff is included in the DS tarball Aug 18 16:43:49 does oe have a bug reporting system? Aug 18 16:44:12 bugs.openembedded.org Aug 18 16:44:23 thansk Aug 18 16:44:28 np Aug 18 16:45:02 bitbake -p somefile.bb tries to download instead of just checking the .bb Aug 18 16:47:24 --- rwhitby is now known as rwhitby-away Aug 18 16:51:49 malfi: talk to peteru about the WGT Aug 18 16:51:59 * rwhitby-away heads off to work Aug 18 16:52:03 oh... ingeba is doing ds stuff Aug 18 16:52:11 yep Aug 18 16:53:20 --- ZonE-HaKin9_ is now known as ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 18 16:55:47 --- ZonE-HaKin9 is now known as ZH|CoffeE Aug 18 17:00:35 Well, atleast the DS has a 33.333Mhz crystal ;) Aug 18 17:02:10 --- CoreDump|home is now known as CoreDump|afk Aug 18 17:03:44 <-- Geo_KM has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 17:08:08 rwhitby-away: there seem to get openwrt working on this netgear box, but I'd rather like to see OE. What is peteru doing? Aug 18 17:15:11 <-- zecke has quit ("leaving" (null)) Aug 18 17:16:23 --- CosmicPenguin is now known as CP|AtHome Aug 18 17:16:50 * NAiL does exec("find /"); on the ds Aug 18 17:17:02 It's working... Seems to be taking a good while ;) Aug 18 17:27:57 aaargh Aug 18 17:28:03 It doesn't output anything Aug 18 17:28:25 emtpy flash? *g* Aug 18 17:28:29 empty Aug 18 17:29:26 heh Aug 18 17:29:26 no Aug 18 17:29:38 just me that didn't know how to work exec(); Aug 18 17:29:46 echo exec("find /"); works though Aug 18 17:30:07 hmm Aug 18 17:30:13 that appears to only print one line Aug 18 17:30:38 --> ByronT_ (i=ByronT@nslu2-linux/ByronT) has joined #openslug Aug 18 17:30:56 aha... system(); is the right call Aug 18 17:32:08 Processor : XScale-IXP425/IXC1100 rev 1 (v5b) BogoMIPS : 266.24 Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp Hardware : Intel IXDP425 Development Platform Revision : 0000 Serial : 0000000000000000 Serial : 0000000000000000 Aug 18 17:32:19 No need to deunderclock, apparently ;) Aug 18 17:34:05 hmm, does it have a real IXP425? Aug 18 17:34:13 not that stripped down version, the slug got Aug 18 17:34:35 FWIXP420BB Aug 18 17:35:00 ah also a ixp420 Aug 18 17:36:03 yup Aug 18 17:36:53 Ah, this is fun Aug 18 17:37:25 <-- Timelord has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 17:38:08 Neat.. it's got gphoto2 Aug 18 17:45:47 linux surely gained a foothold in the embedded market, I don't think any company could develop a samba, cups, gphoto2 clone in an acceptable time and money frame Aug 18 17:46:43 --> malfimalfi (n=malte@dsl-082-082-193-086.arcor-ip.net) has joined #openslug Aug 18 17:46:56 <-- malfi has quit (Nick collision from services.) Aug 18 17:47:10 --- malfimalfi is now known as malfi Aug 18 17:48:36 nope Aug 18 17:48:57 nope? Aug 18 17:50:03 I don't think any company could develop a samba, cups, gphoto2 clone in an acceptable Aug 18 17:50:07 time and money frame Aug 18 17:50:33 ah ok Aug 18 17:51:08 hmm... I wonder what the "synbios" kernel module does Aug 18 17:51:22 synobios 9928 2 Aug 18 17:51:22 ixp425_eth 13324 1 Aug 18 17:51:22 ixp400 564512 0 [ixp425_eth] Aug 18 17:51:47 That's the three kernel modules loaded on it. the ixp ones are no problem. But the synobios one might be... Aug 18 17:52:43 <-- ByronT-Away has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Aug 18 17:52:44 --- ByronT_ is now known as ByronT-Away Aug 18 17:53:19 what does strings say? Aug 18 17:55:55 working on it ;) Aug 18 17:56:18 --- ZH|CoffeE is now known as ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 18 17:57:01 hmm Aug 18 17:57:03 nothing Aug 18 17:57:12 of course... Aug 18 17:57:20 there's no "strings" on the box Aug 18 18:02:02 <-- qfh has quit (Remote closed the connection) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 18 18:13:30 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 18 18:14:05 2005 Aug 18 18:26:37 kolla: I need a new @openembedded.org key for you .... Aug 18 18:38:18 brilliant Aug 18 18:38:45 Looks like it's a day's work to get the DS 101 to run openslug packages Aug 18 18:38:50 (more or lesS) Aug 18 18:40:06 creating a firmware image otoh Aug 18 18:41:46 malfi: http://opensyn.kynisk.com/synobios_strings Aug 18 18:42:03 That's the output of strings synobios, obviously ;) Aug 18 18:42:12 Looks like the GPIO-stuff Aug 18 18:42:25 aha Aug 18 18:42:34 <6>synobios_interrupt_gpio4: USBCopy button pushed Aug 18 18:42:45 hmm... that's odd Aug 18 18:42:49 it got an usbcopy button? wow Aug 18 18:42:54 There's only two buttons Aug 18 18:43:07 power and reset Aug 18 18:43:32 maybe the development box got such a button Aug 18 18:43:42 possible Aug 18 18:43:59 well, the synobios stuff seems like it's somewhat easily replacable Aug 18 18:44:01 but now you can easily ignore this module :) Aug 18 18:44:13 yes ;) Aug 18 18:44:32 which means it should be rather easy to get openslug to run on this thing Aug 18 18:44:54 I can't wait until I get one of my own ;) Aug 18 18:45:06 I can't break this one, unfortunately Aug 18 18:45:39 the most difficult thing is probably assembling a suitable firmware image? Aug 18 18:46:36 yes, it's using some odd checksum-thing Aug 18 18:46:41 the firmware image is a tarball Aug 18 18:46:56 with a kernel image and an initrd Aug 18 18:47:08 and a package with lots of libs. Dunno what that is ... Aug 18 18:47:39 oh... there's an "updater" *inside* the firmware image Aug 18 18:47:47 Looks like that's the binary that does the updating Aug 18 18:47:57 upgrade_success Aug 18 18:47:57 error_dirop Aug 18 18:47:57 error_bootmediaop Aug 18 18:48:15 Cool Aug 18 18:49:13 :) Aug 18 18:50:02 do you know, why openwrt is so popular? what have they, that doesn't exist in openslug/oe ? Aug 18 18:50:45 No idea actually Aug 18 19:47:44 has anyone used kernel-module-iptable-nat from the unstable feed? Aug 18 19:50:06 err...I mean kernel-module-ip-tables Aug 18 19:53:04 when I try and load the ip_tables module I get unknown symbol errors Aug 18 19:53:05 ip_tables: Unknown symbol nf_register_sockopt Aug 18 19:53:05 ip_tables: Unknown symbol nf_unregister_sockopt Aug 18 19:56:31 It probably depends on some other module... Aug 18 19:56:39 have you read the howto on the wiki? Aug 18 19:58:27 you mean the OpenSlugIptables wiki? yeah but I'm looking to load the iptable_nat module, which requires the ip_tables to be loaded Aug 18 22:31:07 rwhitby-away: I'm still working on fixing apache, just takes alot of time, something I don't have this week... Aug 18 22:31:39 DaKa: no problem - not pushing, just looking for status :-) Aug 18 22:32:08 :) Aug 18 22:32:40 Im trying to make it use the staged pcre, and not build the one apache has packaged Aug 18 22:33:19 only problem is that testing a change takes an hour Aug 18 22:59:50 ah, and now someone has checked in apr and apr-util packages, so I have to make apache use them too.. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 19 02:59:56 2005