**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 25 02:59:56 2005 Aug 25 03:03:23 i own some t0mt0m shares.. Aug 25 03:03:32 almost doubled since i bought them Aug 25 03:13:41 NAiLzZz: Wrt. to the Tsunami criticism - I totally disagree. It's really hard to lose someone close to you and it is so tempting to blame others for your helplessness, but that is life. Thousands of Norwegians lose their loved ones each year without an ounce of support or special treatment. Aug 25 03:14:05 * ingeba-zzz is sleep talking again... darn Aug 25 03:25:27 "No Comment" about tsunami stuff. Aug 25 03:27:25 i need some help with monotone Aug 25 03:27:38 i can't find a rpm for centos Aug 25 03:27:43 i got one for boost Aug 25 03:27:48 i got one for boost-devel Aug 25 03:28:19 gilesw: can you use the statically compiled one from the monotone site? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 25 03:33:58 2005 Aug 25 03:49:25 sweet got it to work Aug 25 03:49:34 giving the epia a workout Aug 25 04:47:15 openslug autobuilds are failing on syslog-ng, and ucslugc autobuilds are failing on mpd ... Aug 25 05:22:29 rwhitby: What is the problem with syslog-ng Aug 25 05:24:45 ingeba-toandfrom: check logs.nslu2-linux.org/buildlogs Aug 25 05:25:26 the buildlogs are online now, specifically so package developers can check the logs to see if their package is passing or not. Aug 25 05:25:36 Will do - I have an OS BB file for syslog-ng and libs, but not checked in Aug 25 05:26:24 rwhitby: Any page where the code names are explained? Aug 25 05:27:21 nudi is the cross host, gastro is unslung native, banana is openslug native Aug 25 05:31:37 Cool - checked the log - it says failed in unpack. Will the logs include the data from the log files if there is failure during compile? Aug 25 05:32:11 not unless someone works out how to do that :-) Aug 25 05:34:02 After I switched to an ASUS MB I can no longer remotely wake-on-LAN by build machine at home from the University :-( Have to wait 'til I get back and check if it is my package Aug 25 06:53:02 how fast can I turn the Leds on/off? Aug 25 06:53:18 * malfi thinks about building a visualisation for mpd... Aug 25 06:55:48 I use mine as a heartbeat signal on my robot and my main loop toggles it every 40milliseconds without any apparent problems. (unless the overhead is real high?) Aug 25 08:16:27 quick question: roughly how much disk space do I need to do "make build-openslug" with the master makefile? I've just run out of space after 5.6gigs... Aug 25 08:18:32 7-8, I'd say. Not entirely sure though Aug 25 08:18:45 thanks Aug 25 08:18:54 np Aug 25 08:18:55 * hannesr repartitions :) Aug 25 08:19:05 500 Internal Error Aug 25 08:19:06 There was an unusual problem serving the requested URL '/'. Aug 25 10:49:03 anyone in this group using a A64 to build with? Aug 25 10:50:38 [g2], are you using a A64 for your build machine? Aug 25 10:51:08 <[g2]> ka6sox-office, 1 of my 2 yes Aug 25 10:51:13 <[g2]> I've got an A64 and P4 Aug 25 10:51:18 k Aug 25 10:51:31 <[g2]> I've been running off the A64 for the last couple months Aug 25 10:51:31 I'm getting a lot of compiling errors. Aug 25 10:51:56 things like packages using the A64 64bit libs etc... Aug 25 10:52:12 <[g2]> well I haven't rebuilt for about a weeks or so Aug 25 10:52:44 k Aug 25 10:52:46 <[g2]> sounds like you are running 64-bit natively Aug 25 10:53:27 <[g2]> I haven't switched to the 64-bit mode Aug 25 10:53:30 k Aug 25 10:53:36 so that may be the problem Aug 25 10:53:48 <[g2]> lemme guess ubunta 64-bit ? Aug 25 10:53:53 ya Aug 25 10:54:26 except here is the twist Aug 25 10:54:32 <[g2]> are you running 64-bit for any real reason or just to be a tech stud :) ? Aug 25 10:54:37 its a chrooted Gentoo environment. Aug 25 10:54:59 so theoretically its only the kernel and devices that are being used. Aug 25 10:55:52 <[g2]> I'd rebuilt the kernel in Gentoo and use that Aug 25 10:55:58 the gentoo is 2005.1 Aug 25 10:56:05 <[g2]> 64-bit ? Aug 25 10:56:22 dunno...going to have to ask my officemate as she set it up. Aug 25 10:57:00 <[g2]> I'm looking to strip down my build system Aug 25 10:57:22 <[g2]> no gui, not many serices Aug 25 10:57:26 <[g2]> services Aug 25 11:01:48 the gentoo is a Stage 3 setup just emerging things that we need only Aug 25 11:02:32 ah, Bug #277 explains why thttpd scored so bad on keep-alive connections Aug 25 11:02:33 ka6sox-office: say again? :) Aug 25 11:02:54 oh.. for building box Aug 25 11:03:54 ya Aug 25 11:06:29 <[g2]> hey DaKa ! I hear apache is in the native builds Aug 25 11:07:01 <[g2]> ka6sox-office later today I'll kick off a full build on the AMD64 machine Aug 25 11:07:13 <[g2]> DaKa congrats Aug 25 11:07:34 <[g2]> and I hope the initial rush of new students is over :) Aug 25 11:07:37 :-) Aug 25 11:07:49 heh, it's not :) but close Aug 25 11:08:04 <[g2]> hope things are going well Aug 25 11:08:13 NAiL, still barfed on the builds... Aug 25 11:08:28 so I brought the discussion here. Aug 25 11:08:54 [g2]: I have two or three more classes to teach how to use our computers, then things should calm down, might fix apache a bit, and then php module Aug 25 11:09:03 h... Aug 25 11:09:06 /home/tking/openslug/tmp/work/gcc-3.4.4-r2/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/stmt.c:4051: internal compiler error: in extract_insn, at recog.c:2083 Aug 25 11:09:12 I recognize that one... Aug 25 11:09:21 k Aug 25 11:10:16 I really should look at my three slugbugs.. Aug 25 11:10:56 <[g2]> bbiab Aug 25 11:25:51 NAiL, what was/is the resolution? Aug 25 11:27:23 well.. we replaced gcc/glibc. But that does seem a bit over the top Aug 25 11:32:41 I think that [g2] might be on to something. Aug 25 11:33:05 back soon...quick lunch Aug 25 11:48:00 NAiL: you wanted some 8M16 right (same as in the slug originally) Aug 25 11:52:25 yes. Higher won't kill me though :P Aug 25 11:52:42 ok, I could throw in a 16M16 too Aug 25 11:52:50 :) Aug 25 11:53:01 If you have one extra, that'd be great :D Aug 25 11:53:05 sure Aug 25 11:53:24 takes 2 Aug 25 11:53:42 I assume DaKa is talking about a dimm stick Aug 25 11:53:59 heh, yes Aug 25 11:54:11 dammit, I already welded the esd bag.. Aug 25 11:54:23 oh well, /me locates another one Aug 25 11:57:05 lets see what I can throw in.. /me looks at all the old crap supposed to go to destruction.. Aug 25 11:57:09 evenin all Aug 25 11:57:14 time to check on my compile.. Aug 25 11:58:06 NOTE: package gcc-3.4.4-r2: task do_compile: started Aug 25 11:58:12 hmm it's stuck at that point Aug 25 11:58:24 "stuck"? Aug 25 11:58:28 It takes *ages* Aug 25 11:58:32 ohh Aug 25 11:58:42 really Aug 25 11:58:47 i set it going this lunch time Aug 25 11:59:03 should have used my p3 933 rather than this epia 600 Aug 25 11:59:04 grr Aug 25 11:59:32 NAiL: with this stuff you can make one 128MiB slug and four 64MiB slugs, I'll put it on the box later tonight Aug 25 11:59:40 wow Aug 25 11:59:49 gilesw: I abandoned my Epia 800 and went to a A64..but am having 64bit issues Aug 25 12:00:08 honestly it took that long?? Aug 25 12:00:12 Hmm... maybe I'll make that one 128mb ds, and three fastlugs Aug 25 12:00:22 fatslugs Aug 25 12:00:28 i started it from a ssh window too so i can't reboot this pc.. Aug 25 12:00:41 ssh in again? Aug 25 12:00:58 It should continue where you left off, more or less Aug 25 12:01:09 but the next time, start it in a screen session ;) Aug 25 12:01:14 hrm sounds a bit dodge Aug 25 12:01:25 actually my other box is fc3 Aug 25 12:01:31 and the docs say it won't compile on that Aug 25 12:02:57 gilesw: ah Aug 25 12:03:21 oh well i'll just have to leave it Aug 25 12:03:27 yep Aug 25 12:03:33 i could try and cook an egg on the epia heatsink Aug 25 12:03:59 NAiL: oh, and I tested the eight 8M16 last night and it passed, and the four 16M16 tested for 30 mins. But you should really test them anyway, if you have something old enough to use PC133 SDRAM... Aug 25 12:04:22 Actually, I do! My old AMD XP2000 devbox uses SDRAM ;-) Aug 25 12:04:43 uh, something that "new" still using sdram? Aug 25 12:04:49 yes Aug 25 12:04:55 we have Cel 1000 using ddr... Aug 25 12:06:05 It's currently got 1280mb SDRAM... unfortunatly not xM16 :( Aug 25 12:06:51 heh, I had to search a long time to find xM16, then I found loads of it Aug 25 12:07:23 not that much 16Mx16, but enough for all my slugs + one stick for you :) Aug 25 12:07:34 brilliant ;-) Aug 25 12:07:47 I could probably find even more in the storage room Aug 25 12:08:55 so, that memory is payed for by the swedish taxpayers :) Aug 25 12:09:03 hahaha Aug 25 12:10:47 ok, now for bowling Aug 25 12:11:16 later, people Aug 25 12:11:39 later :) Aug 25 12:21:58 i just typed make ucslugc Aug 25 12:22:09 i'm assuming that builds the firmware Aug 25 12:24:30 would be a bit sad if 24hrs later i'd built the wrong thing Aug 25 12:27:13 if it's not a daft question why isn't there a binary download for ucslugc? Aug 25 12:42:34 bowling? Aug 25 12:47:13 gilesw: that will make everything including all the packages Aug 25 12:47:24 to make only the firmware is make ucslugc-image Aug 25 13:00:20 ah k Aug 25 13:00:22 cheers Aug 25 13:01:08 oo it's moved onto another message so at least i know it's working Aug 25 13:04:59 woo hoo! Aug 25 13:31:35 bummer Aug 25 13:31:40 crash de bug Aug 25 13:32:51 ugh Aug 25 13:33:01 how much memory in that C3-600? Aug 25 13:33:42 512 Aug 25 13:34:01 i'm just going to build the image now Aug 25 13:34:17 only package i want is samba Aug 25 13:43:06 gilesw, I don't think that samba is in the firmware image on ucslugc but you can install it. Aug 25 13:43:19 (samba should be in the feed) Aug 25 13:52:03 righty Aug 25 14:45:30 23:44 < reenoo_> in case anyone's not subscribed to oe@: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/5878 Aug 25 16:20:08 hmm, mpd isn't exactly stable Aug 25 16:20:18 maybe I should try out xmms2 Aug 25 16:20:44 malfi: what's up with mpd? crashes? Aug 25 16:21:32 yeah segfaults, if I do a update-db on an 160GB nfs share with all kind of data files on it, maybe 80GB mp3s Aug 25 16:23:00 I've never had problems with it, but I inflict neither nfs nor that amount of files on it... Something tells me xmms might be unhappy if you try to add 160GB to its playlist too ;) Aug 25 16:23:37 I'm not that happy with the mpd clients either, they all look rather rough Aug 25 16:24:08 that is true. the gui clients are definitely not what they could be. Aug 25 16:24:44 I discovered amarok last month it's quite nice, with this wikipedia integration and all that nifty stuff. :) Aug 25 16:26:09 amarok is tempting, but a bit overwhelming... the first time it crashed on me I ran straight back to my nice safe commandline and mpd Aug 25 16:29:07 I used old xmms1 for years. And it took me some time to get used to amarok, but now it's great. Aug 25 16:30:54 hmm there might be to few megabytes of RAM on my slug to generate that mpd-db Aug 25 16:33:43 malfi: try adding a nice big swapfile? Aug 25 16:33:57 yeah, I'll do that Aug 25 18:01:43 hmpf Aug 25 18:01:56 mpd isn't able to play an ogg stream without hickup Aug 25 18:02:14 99% cpu time :-/ Aug 25 18:03:32 though mp3 streams are fine Aug 25 18:40:43 hmm, I just browsed the existing ebuilds for xmms2 (it's seperated client/server much like mpd), so it could be nice, to install the xmms2 server on the slug Aug 25 18:40:56 but xmms2 uses scons as the build system. Aug 25 18:41:41 everything needed seems to be in OpenEmbedded (i.e. openembedded/packages/python/python-scons-native_0.96.90.bb + openembedded/classes/scons.bbclass) but it's not installed by default. Aug 25 18:44:23 malfi: there's an alternate ogg library (tremor?) that does ogg decoding with integers Aug 25 18:44:43 NAiL: yes, I've heard about it Aug 25 18:45:05 NAiL: but I'll try to get xmms2 running for now :) Aug 25 18:49:38 hmm Aug 25 18:57:08 it's too complicated for me :-/ Aug 25 19:00:56 I've got only so far: http://pastebin.ca/21185 Aug 25 19:02:51 maybe I post it as a feature request at bugs@OE Aug 25 19:08:01 so: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258 Aug 25 19:08:20 I hope that somebody will take pitty on me and fix it. :) Aug 25 19:22:35 ui Aug 25 19:23:34 Yesterday I talked to the mpd developer in #mpd and told him about the problem with the floatpoint based ogg algo, and voila, they seem to have integrated tremor yesterday Aug 25 19:24:03 http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page see NEWS and August 25 Aug 25 19:28:24 wget -qO - http://yhbt.net/mpd.r3454_oggflac.diff | grep "^+" | grep tremor Aug 25 19:34:27 malfi: Doesn't apply to the latest release. I don't know how to check stuff out of svn in bb's Aug 25 19:34:52 hmm Aug 25 19:34:54 it seems to be a seperate tree, dunno either Aug 25 19:35:10 I guess I can check the tree out of svn, and create a diff from the .5 version Aug 25 19:36:00 I can look at that tomorrow. It's 04:30 and I'm drunk :-P Aug 25 19:36:12 hehe Aug 25 19:36:33 but I would really appreciate, if you find the time :) Aug 25 19:36:34 the diff itself is 83k, so it'll take me a while to look through it Aug 25 19:37:07 Sure, I can take a look at it. I've been interested in getting ogg decoding to work properly anyway ;) Aug 25 19:37:10 NAiL, me sending you that slug got you so happy that you went out and *celebrated*???? Aug 25 19:39:34 hehe, almost :P Aug 25 19:39:46 rwhitby-lunch: bah, you are too quick. I was replying to that message Aug 25 19:39:54 Almost the same wording too... Aug 25 19:47:24 malfi: Remind me tomorrow.. might be I forget :P Aug 25 19:47:45 I'll try to fix tremor support before I go partying again Aug 25 19:52:29 :-) okay **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 25 23:00:31 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 25 23:01:35 2005 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 26 02:59:56 2005