**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 01 02:59:56 2005 Sep 01 03:00:00 Zero. Sep 01 03:00:21 Because of that 2.4 vs 2.6 bit. Sep 01 03:00:29 The driver model is differnt. Sep 01 03:00:48 ok, I will have to deal. Sep 01 03:01:09 however, someone mentioned that ntfs write support works well in the newest kernel; but I have not looked into it myself Sep 01 03:03:11 as I understand, current ntfs write support is only for writing within pre-existing files(?) Sep 01 03:04:16 I'm not sure, I'm only repeating what I heard elsewhere on some channel someplace. :-) Sep 01 03:04:26 honestly, you probably know more about it than me. Sep 01 03:36:33 I want to public ported from debian to OE package scsi-idle (for scsi disk spindown) Sep 01 03:36:34 What can i get write acces for OpenSlug repo? thx Sep 01 04:36:35 Hmm - demsey arrives, asks for write access, and leaves. Sep 01 04:38:46 12:58 -!- demsey [n=kvirc@qe186.wroclaw.sdi.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] Sep 01 04:38:49 12:59 -!- demsey [n=kvirc@qe186.wroclaw.sdi.tpnet.pl] has joined #openslug Sep 01 04:39:07 oops. missed that. Sep 01 04:39:11 demsey: you still around? Sep 01 04:40:03 demsey: first thing you do is register your nick here. Sep 01 04:41:12 koen: do you guys prefer new .bb files for review being sent to the mailing list, or attached to a bug report? Sep 01 04:41:27 (the oe@handhelds.org mailing list that is) Sep 01 04:41:28 bugreport Sep 01 04:41:40 is there an OE page on how to start contributing ? Sep 01 04:41:49 not yet Sep 01 04:42:01 or, not that I've noticed Sep 01 04:42:17 (I assume the process is something like contribute a couple of .bb files for review and eventually you would get direct write acess ...) Sep 01 04:42:29 yep Sep 01 04:42:58 I'm returned no:) Sep 01 04:43:05 I heard sending some bottles of leffe brun to mickeyl does wonders too ;) Sep 01 04:43:46 cause unless it's an openslug-specific package, I'm inclined to point people directly to OE, cause unless the person has been hanging out here and contributing already, then you #oe guys are gonna need to approve the write access anyway ... Sep 01 04:44:14 I have OE *.bb file but kernel patch is needed Sep 01 04:44:36 how big is the patch? Sep 01 04:44:49 (i.e. is it small enough to pastebin?) Sep 01 04:44:57 very litle Sep 01 04:45:25 couple of rows for kernel 2.6 Sep 01 04:46:00 demsey: have you tried this yourself, and does it spin down any disk in any enclosure ? Sep 01 04:46:29 (cause we have had little success with scsi-idle before, so we would need to know that the kernel patch works) Sep 01 04:47:23 yes i hve instaled Sep 01 04:47:35 what type of disk and enclosure ? Sep 01 04:48:04 I patch kernel for OpenSlug 2.5 beta and i have scsi-idle*.ipk Sep 01 04:48:44 I must check it I don't remember Sep 01 04:49:07 disc ist WDC 200GB Sep 01 04:49:56 and it really spins down? Sep 01 04:50:01 yes Sep 01 04:50:06 can you pastebin.ca the kernel patch ? Sep 01 04:50:33 noob question: I now have openslug running from a disk but when I add the old unlsung swap "/dev/sda3 swap swap defaults 0 0" to /etc/fstab and reboot df does not report that I have any swap Sep 01 04:50:53 if you wont i dend you this *.ipk - ther is scsi-stop command - then you check spindown Sep 01 04:51:03 emm_is: cat /proc/swaps ? Sep 01 04:51:14 emm_is: did you mkswap on the partition? Sep 01 04:51:15 but for demon scsi-idle is patch for kernel needed Sep 01 04:51:27 demsey: pastebin.ca the kernel patch please Sep 01 04:52:50 I ran mkswap over the old swap (considered using the 128Mb /sda2 -- is that counter-productive?) : cat /proc/swaps Sep 01 04:52:57 Filename Type Size Used Priority Sep 01 04:53:18 " /dev/sda3 partition 63480 0 -1 Sep 01 04:54:11 that looks like 60+MB of swap. Sep 01 04:56:03 Ok i'm sending kernel-patch-scsi-idle.patch and *.bb package Sep 01 04:56:23 ok: cat /proc/meminfo confirms (doh) Sep 01 05:13:08 I can't upload tarbal with scsi-idle package sources:( Sep 01 05:47:17 demsey: why would you want to upload the package sources anywhere? the .bb file will just download it from upstream ... Sep 01 06:01:19 it is bb file and 2 litle patches for scsi-idle surces Sep 01 06:03:13 is there a reason why you haven't pastebin.ca'd the kernel patch here yet ? Sep 01 06:04:00 I upload them Sep 01 06:04:24 http://pastebin.ca/21822 Sep 01 06:08:49 rwhitby: Have you it? Sep 01 06:09:16 yep, so that kernel patch just returns the last non-idle time, right? Sep 01 06:09:46 well, the time it has been idle (it does the subtraction later) Sep 01 06:10:25 exacly Sep 01 06:10:25 I wonder what happens when jiffies wraps ... Sep 01 06:11:13 where did you upload the .bb file and other patches to ? Sep 01 06:11:14 and it's all in kernel - rest ist in scsi-demon Sep 01 06:12:00 I tried but i can't upload tarbal with this package Sep 01 06:12:31 they're just text files aren't they ? Sep 01 06:12:46 just attach them to an email to nslu2-linux yahoo group Sep 01 06:12:59 When wraps - good question - I only ported it to 2.6 kernel:) Sep 01 06:13:34 What is email? Sep 01 06:14:11 you're not subscribed to the nslu2-linux yahoo group? Sep 01 06:14:47 not yet:( - but I do it :) Sep 01 06:15:40 moment please.. I must go Sep 01 06:30:32 ok - i'm go back Sep 01 07:28:14 heey... are we getting disks to spin down now? Sep 01 07:45:53 * koen did that yesterday Sep 01 07:46:04 wrong plug(TM) Sep 01 11:27:39 After I've done turnup init, how do I write the config back to flash? Sep 01 11:28:05 (so that the next time I reflash the image it'll have a sane ip-addr Sep 01 12:14:20 NAiL: Can we do that? Sep 01 12:14:46 I've heard it was possible Sep 01 12:20:17 yeah, with devio at least Sep 01 12:20:21 but dunno how Sep 01 12:20:42 I did it on maimedslug once Sep 01 12:21:11 did someone look at emdebian of stag to use with debianslug? Sep 01 12:26:01 huh? Sep 01 12:26:42 to make it fit in the flash it self Sep 01 12:26:50 oh Sep 01 12:26:53 not that I know Sep 01 13:03:16 uh... is it only me, or doesn't the latest ipkg resolve dependencies? Sep 01 13:03:44 .153? Sep 01 13:03:49 yeah Sep 01 13:03:52 didn't try it yet Sep 01 13:04:16 root@slugave:~# ipkg install bash Sep 01 13:04:16 Installing bash (3.0-r4) to root... Sep 01 13:04:21 root@slugave:~# bash Sep 01 13:04:21 bash: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Sep 01 13:04:31 Fairly sure bash depends on libncurses ;) Sep 01 14:48:32 <[g2]> has anyone played with external CDROM drives an OpenSlug ? Sep 01 23:09:15 This is a tad annoying Sep 01 23:09:25 ipkg*153 doesn't pull in deps Sep 01 23:09:37 so I'm trying to -force-downgrade to *152 Sep 01 23:09:52 does it work? No. It states that it's "up to date". Sep 01 23:11:05 ugh...I'm using 148 Sep 01 23:11:37 do not upgrade ;) Sep 01 23:12:00 ipkg-install openslug-native is... useless **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 01 23:13:44 2005 Sep 01 23:13:56 ugh Sep 02 02:19:58 Hello rwhitby - I checked scsi-idle sourses For spindown disk they uses ioctl to send comand ioctl(fd, SCSI_IOCTL_STOP_UNIT) Do you think that is hardware problem with service this command by some enclosures? Sep 02 02:20:56 quite possibly Sep 02 02:22:00 That i have only luck that it work with my enclosure:( Sep 02 02:24:26 I can't find symbol this enclosure but can see at this link http://www.qart.com.pl/prod/HDFWUSB200.html Sep 02 02:29:30 It maybe only problem with disk drive I read on WD site that my support idle mode... Sep 02 02:54:10 demsey: The only relevant difference would be the chip set - have you check which on is in your enclosure? Sep 02 02:54:18 s/on/one/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 02 02:59:56 2005