**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 23 02:59:56 2005 Sep 23 04:20:36 hi all, can someone enlighten me how I can build an additional kernel module? Sep 23 04:21:44 <[g2]> eFfeM, have you build openslug ? Sep 23 04:22:20 yes, both the 2.5 version and the head, prefer to add the module to the 2.5 version Sep 23 04:22:52 it's a module that is not in the standard kernel Sep 23 04:23:14 <[g2]> well it's pretty trivial then Sep 23 04:23:48 ok. I think what I am missing is mostly the proper location and perhaps some make/bb info Sep 23 04:25:14 <[g2]> You should check the wiki but ...... http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TweakKernelOrPackagesInOE Sep 23 04:26:04 <[g2]> you'll need to do a setup-env in the openslug directory first Sep 23 04:26:18 <[g2]> well before the bitbake (bb) Sep 23 04:26:23 ok, i did add in work, but did a clean first and then I got a complete new directory Sep 23 04:29:09 <[g2]> right that's what a clean does :) Sep 23 04:29:54 figured that out the hard way, and then decided not to fiddle around but ask expert advice Sep 23 04:30:02 its building now Sep 23 04:30:08 <[g2]> excellent Sep 23 04:30:23 <[g2]> the wiki' got tons of great stuff on it Sep 23 04:31:05 i know, i've contributed a thing or two Sep 23 04:31:31 but it is not always trivial to find things. Sep 23 04:31:39 eg the url you mentions says: Sep 23 04:31:40 [jbowler: There are (now) more detailed instructions in OpenEmbedded/ChangingTheOEBuild?, this details how to avoid temporary changes being overwritten after a bk pull updates the openembedded directory tree.] Sep 23 04:31:51 but this: Sep 23 04:31:51 OpenEmbedded/ChangingTheOEBuild Sep 23 04:32:01 does bring me to a fresh page Sep 23 04:32:04 ... Sep 23 04:32:24 other wiki? Sep 23 04:32:46 actually at first I decided to build natively, but there is no /lib/modules/2.6.12.2/build Sep 23 04:32:52 so that did not work... Sep 23 04:33:52 hey, the build did give me my modules, lets test Sep 23 04:58:09 eFfeM: sorry, I wasnt ignoring you earlier. Sep 23 04:58:41 eFfeM: I have the pvrusb2 drivers built and in oe. Sep 23 04:59:07 I havnt gotten around to extracting the loadable firmware from the windows driver yet though. Sep 23 04:59:09 hi dyoung Sep 23 04:59:11 no problem Sep 23 04:59:28 actually with help of [g2] I just managed to build the modules myself Sep 23 04:59:46 I was now trying to figure out how to install the firmware Sep 23 05:00:01 I do have the firmware, extraction worked like a charm Sep 23 05:00:23 did you use the bb's I commited or did you rewrite it? Sep 23 05:00:28 I'm now looking at /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent on my FC system to learn what it does Sep 23 05:00:55 I didn't use the bb's, didn't know where to find them, are they on the head? Sep 23 05:01:09 Yes Sep 23 05:01:22 I just hacked the modules in the kernel tree, removed the timestamps and rebuild the kernel Sep 23 05:01:36 what is the name of your bb files ? Sep 23 05:01:41 I made that commit a while ago Sep 23 05:02:20 everything in packages/usbpvr-mci Sep 23 05:03:05 packages/usbpvr2-mci rather Sep 23 05:04:27 hm. I rebuilt from the head yesterday but I do not see it Sep 23 05:04:46 neither in openembedded/packages nor in openslug/openembedded/packages Sep 23 05:05:03 am I missing a magic command here? Sep 23 05:05:50 hm, all the files in packages are from sep 10 (probably the first time I build the head) Sep 23 05:07:29 basically I just reran make in my head dir yesterday Sep 23 05:07:38 should I have done more ??? Sep 23 05:07:53 It was in this commit: http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=ed7fbf09a3f3507d72df6df81e1ef299da9722c7 Sep 23 05:08:07 that was on 9/17 Sep 23 05:08:27 are you using the master makefile ? Sep 23 05:08:48 good Q, maybe I used the makefile in openslug Sep 23 05:08:57 let me try the master one and get back to you Sep 23 05:09:16 it might be I used the wrong one Sep 23 05:09:18 okay Sep 23 05:09:29 let it run for a while and I'll see what it brings Sep 23 05:09:48 I got visitors, so I have to leave for a while, but I'll keep you posted Sep 23 05:10:00 okay, I'm GMT-10 so headed for sleep soon. Sep 23 05:10:03 meanwhile, if you happen to know how to d/l the firmware into the box, let me know Sep 23 05:10:07 ah. ok. Sep 23 05:10:11 but I plan to plug . Sep 23 05:10:14 eFfeM: did you "make update" ? Sep 23 05:10:14 ah Sep 23 05:10:25 I have instructions for the fw extraction. Sep 23 05:10:41 I'll paste em here in a bit. Sep 23 05:10:54 rwhitby-away, I'm doing that now Sep 23 05:11:08 dyoung, I do have the firmware. the pvr is running on my FC system Sep 23 05:11:24 I just don't know how to get the firmware in the box on the nslu2 Sep 23 05:11:30 oh. Which firmware to d/l into which box were you referring to? Sep 23 05:11:36 no /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent Sep 23 05:11:48 Oh, I havnt gotten quite that far yet. Sep 23 05:12:03 eFfeM: is this with openslug or ... ?? Sep 23 05:12:04 got this extracted: Sep 23 05:12:05 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8192 Sep 21 22:00 pvrusb2.f1 Sep 23 05:12:05 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262144 Sep 21 22:00 pvrusb2.f2 Sep 23 05:12:34 on my FC system there is a script /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent Sep 23 05:12:44 this loads the firmware (through /sys apparently) Sep 23 05:13:13 /etc/hotplug does not exist under openslug 2.5 Sep 23 05:13:17 so also no /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent Sep 23 05:13:54 dyoung, are you the dyoung8888 from the group ? Sep 23 05:13:59 yep, that me Sep 23 05:14:27 if so, I can also drop you an email on my progress. we're 12hr apart so that doesn't sync very well Sep 23 05:14:38 heh ok Sep 23 05:14:38 (I'm in NL, GMT+2 Sep 23 05:14:46 lemme message you a preffered email. Sep 23 05:14:55 ok Sep 23 05:15:09 got it Sep 23 05:15:18 Okay cool Sep 23 05:15:32 i'm eager to get this working this weekend Sep 23 05:15:38 There are a few other folks that are keenly interested in making this box work with the nslu2 Sep 23 05:15:50 I keep getting distracted with other stuff though. ;-) Sep 23 05:16:24 ok, if I manage to do it I'll scribble a howto Sep 23 05:16:34 like making deps to use it with the armeb debian port. Sep 23 05:16:40 need to go to my visitors now, back in half an hour or so Sep 23 05:16:48 okay see yo u. Sep 23 05:16:55 want to make mine a pvr/upnp server Sep 23 05:16:56 cu Sep 23 13:56:16 hi koen Sep 23 13:58:18 hey eFfeM Sep 23 13:58:44 did you manage to get the iMic running? Sep 23 13:59:12 i think I have the wintv pvr usb2 going Sep 23 13:59:19 need to test a little bit more Sep 23 13:59:38 still no sound Sep 23 13:59:45 althoug the mixer and dsp seem to work Sep 23 14:00:51 hm. according to qbic it should work; Sep 23 14:00:52 http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=945 Sep 23 14:04:44 I have faith Sep 23 14:05:00 I'm going to plug it into a x86 linux box for further debugging Sep 23 14:09:46 seems a good plan Sep 23 14:10:14 makes it easier to debug Sep 23 14:12:33 calling it a day, cu tomorrow **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 24 00:19:53 2005 Sep 24 01:45:36 good morning all Sep 24 01:55:08 morning koen Sep 24 01:58:06 hey jacques Sep 24 03:15:13 hi all, just wanted to let you know that I managed to install and use the hauppage wintv pvr usb2 box Sep 24 03:15:22 I scribbled a wiki page on it: InstallWinTVPVRUSB2 Sep 24 03:15:25 enjoy! Sep 24 03:15:33 wow!!! Sep 24 03:16:09 cool!!!!! Sep 24 03:18:36 now some additional software on top of it Sep 24 03:19:24 btw sometimes my system crashes after a while, no idea if this is related to the pvr stuff (didn't have it before) Sep 24 03:19:58 I have no console, so I have no idea why Sep 24 03:20:08 could it be that I am running out of swap space? Sep 24 03:20:18 Is there a way to detect how much swap space I am using? Sep 24 03:20:36 free Sep 24 03:20:59 or cat /proc/meminfo Sep 24 03:21:17 ah, didn't know that command, I've only used 4 M of 512 M Sep 24 03:22:31 I'm running also twonky and nfs; actually I thought I was also running apache but apparently I don't start it automatically yet Sep 24 03:23:10 I loose connectivity to the slug, but it seems to be running so I'm now dumpign dmesg to a file every minute to see if I get something useful from that .... Sep 24 03:23:43 eFfeM, you have actually recorded video on the slug now? Sep 24 03:23:49 yes! Sep 24 03:24:04 installed the drivers, made loading the firmware work Sep 24 03:24:18 then just did cat /dev/video0 >file.mpg Sep 24 03:24:28 I could play this back on my FC system using mplayer Sep 24 03:24:53 actually this reminds me that I did not mention making /dev entries in the wiki Sep 24 03:24:53 excellent Sep 24 03:25:18 eFfeM: Good job. Sep 24 03:25:36 dyoung-zzzz, I was about to write you an email on this Sep 24 03:25:43 eFfeM: With the head, you can do ipkg install pvrusb2-mci Sep 24 03:25:53 I think all info is in the wiki Sep 24 03:26:17 I'm not too hot to go to the head. Don't know about the day-to-day stability and I don Sep 24 03:26:32 I don't want to end up with all kind of unrelated kernel issues Sep 24 03:26:41 ok Sep 24 03:26:56 that's why I have stayed with 2.5 Sep 24 03:27:03 The point is it should be in the feed as soon as I or someone get around to putting it in the build list Sep 24 03:27:05 but I mention the head stuff in the wiki Sep 24 03:27:28 ok, when it is there, please put it in the wiki. Sep 24 03:27:49 were you planning to use this with mythtv or someting else? Sep 24 03:27:49 Basically I'm doing most of my work on the frozen 2.5 tree that I downloaded Sep 24 03:28:06 something else Sep 24 03:28:16 I have a UPnP receiver Sep 24 03:28:32 I see. Sep 24 03:28:40 I am running twonky and want to make recordings and serve them to the UPnP receiver Sep 24 03:28:45 I had ideas of using this + nslu2 to replace my Tivo. Sep 24 03:29:06 don't have a tivo, not available in NL Sep 24 03:29:24 Youre not missing much. :-) Sep 24 03:29:30 you probably have way better stuff there Sep 24 03:29:33 mythtv would be nice, but I'll leave it to someone else to work on it Sep 24 03:29:58 next I want to scribble a small recording daemon Sep 24 03:29:59 i gotta get one of these now Sep 24 03:30:12 eFfeM: Mythtv is in oe Sep 24 03:30:30 I only need the backend, right? Sep 24 03:30:35 but armeb building is restricted for some reason. Sep 24 03:30:41 eFfeM, correct Sep 24 03:30:43 I think so. Sep 24 03:30:51 jacques, are you in france? Sep 24 03:31:14 got the wintv for 120 euro mailorder in NL, list price seems to be 150 Sep 24 03:31:18 now... I wonder if we can attach two pvrusb2's and record two streams at once! Sep 24 03:31:28 eFfeM, I am in the US Sep 24 03:31:45 I think I got mine from Amazon for $128 Sep 24 03:31:50 ok, then you need an NTSC one Sep 24 03:31:58 that's a good price. Sep 24 03:32:13 I visit the US every once in a while for work and sometimes bring some stuff from there Sep 24 03:32:38 mail order is nasty (shipping cost, import duties, ...) Sep 24 03:33:02 considered buying a USB lcd device and use LCDproc. haven't decided yet Sep 24 03:33:23 Cool Sep 24 03:33:27 I'm going back to sleep now. Sep 24 03:33:43 ok, good night. (I'm heading for lunch....) Sep 24 03:34:02 Let me know if you make progress with mythtv Sep 24 03:34:19 ok, will do. Sep 24 03:35:33 would be great if I could get them for $120 Sep 24 03:35:54 that would make pvrusb2+nslu2 (lol they both end in 2) $200 Sep 24 03:36:11 I'll see if I can handle two tuners. I knwo they have one at work. Might be able to borrow that one Sep 24 03:37:41 cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg takes between 5 and 10 % of a de-underclocked slug so it should be able to deal with two tuners Sep 24 03:37:44 eFfeM, that would be great! Sep 24 03:37:56 no idea if the driver is actually re-entrant though Sep 24 03:38:07 I think it is Sep 24 03:38:18 I'm pretty sure it supports multiple devices Sep 24 03:38:25 it'll be somewhere next week before I can get this arranged Sep 24 03:39:14 I just unno if the nslu2 can write two high bitrate mpeg2 streams to disk simultaneously Sep 24 03:41:00 dvd quality is about 1.2MB/s per stream Sep 24 03:41:07 I'm using 6 Mbit I think, that would be 0.75 Mbyte/sec Sep 24 03:41:11 not to mention contention issues Sep 24 03:41:29 I think a usb2 disk should be able to handle this Sep 24 03:42:05 writing one stream to disk is much easier than two because of contention - filesystem selection might matter there - dunno yet Sep 24 03:42:18 yeah, I know, small test coming up Sep 24 03:44:10 I've just tried this: Sep 24 03:44:11 cat /dev/video0 |tee /tmp/file1.mpg >/tmp/file2.mpg Sep 24 03:44:24 scribbled twice 24 MB to /tmp Sep 24 03:44:45 cat had a load of 3-4 %, tee 7-8 % Sep 24 03:45:08 at first sight having two seems possible Sep 24 03:45:48 3rod, I didn't scare you away I hope :-) Sep 24 03:46:13 I don't have a slug handy - is /tmp on disk or ramfs ? Sep 24 03:46:58 lol Sep 24 03:47:17 on /tmp of course. How to scribble 2x24 MB on the ramfs Sep 24 03:47:28 actually I just stopped it at 2x 171 MB Sep 24 03:47:39 heh yeah cool Sep 24 03:47:41 both files are exactly the same size, didn't check them for hiccups Sep 24 03:48:21 they md5sum the same ? Sep 24 03:48:40 Someone at work also was playing with this, and he managed to do timeshifting to a UPnP server Sep 24 03:48:47 but this was on a buffalo linkstation Sep 24 03:49:45 ah interesting Sep 24 03:50:03 tried cmp i.s.o. md5sum and they are the same Sep 24 03:50:38 cool Sep 24 03:50:51 yup, I'm a happy man now Sep 24 03:52:20 do you know about any EPG sw that will get its data from the internet? Sep 24 03:53:34 I think there are two different packages that mythtv can use Sep 24 03:53:48 yeah, I' Sep 24 03:53:50 not sure what's appropriate for your country Sep 24 03:54:17 yeah, I've seen it on mythtv but I could not find something at sourceforge Sep 24 03:56:02 one is xmltv Sep 24 03:56:59 http://membled.com/work/apps/xmltv/ Sep 24 03:57:28 looks good, it mentions the netherlands Sep 24 03:57:35 I'll have a look at it after lunch Sep 24 03:58:13 first finish the wiki update (to mention /dev); then lunch (otherwise it'll be dinner time before I lunch) then this Sep 24 03:59:01 heh Sep 24 03:59:18 in the US mythtv can also use zap2it Sep 24 04:02:31 here you can also use tvtv, but you need a subscription Sep 24 04:03:05 yeah you need one to zap2it but it's free tho you have to renew it every few months - some strange thing like that Sep 24 04:03:37 ok I gotta get some sleep - great work - talk to you later Sep 24 04:03:46 i think tvtv is subscription based Sep 24 04:03:52 (requiring a fee) Sep 24 04:04:10 zap2it looks nice Sep 24 04:04:36 ok, dig into this later Sep 24 04:38:09 xmltv is available for OpenDebianSlug - I compiled all the dependencies Sep 24 04:38:44 rod, that's good news Sep 24 04:39:04 Is there anything specific I need to do for this? I'm on openslug 2.5 Sep 24 04:46:44 you need to be running opendebianslug Sep 24 04:49:15 yeah, but I would expect it is possible to compile this for openslug as well Sep 24 04:49:46 or am I missing something (not sure if I want to make the move to opendebianslug, I'm on openslug for only two weeks :-) ) Sep 24 04:49:48 maybe, dunno, Sep 24 04:50:00 I'll check it out Sep 24 04:50:14 btw I also gave the openslug howto its own page Sep 24 04:50:20 didn Sep 24 04:50:29 didn't do anything to the success stories page yet Sep 24 05:26:12 hi koen Sep 24 05:26:31 hey eFfeM Sep 24 05:28:06 I've no serial, so I can't read the console, but if my system does not respond any more to its IP address does that mean it has completely crashed? Sep 24 05:28:10 The green lights are still on Sep 24 05:28:58 no idea Sep 24 05:29:09 but you could have a heartbeat script using one of the leds Sep 24 05:29:52 if I just set a led to flashing, that would stop blinking if the slug crashes, isn't it? Sep 24 05:30:08 i think it flashes in hardware Sep 24 05:30:13 * eFfeM thinks it is time to get the serial mod done Sep 24 05:30:25 ok, so I'll do it in sw. no problem Sep 24 05:32:58 made a 1 sec heartbeat and a 60 sec dump of dmesg and free Sep 24 05:33:04 let's see if/when it will hang Sep 24 05:33:12 might be related to my pvr stuff Sep 24 05:35:40 you can compile myth by removing the 'COMPATIBLE_HOST' line from the .bb Sep 24 05:36:02 mythworks on my powerbook too, so it shouldn't have x86 isms in it Sep 24 05:36:28 ah, great Sep 24 05:36:51 and what do I have to do on my PC ? Sep 24 05:37:12 I've used mythtv but have never installed it and never connected it to a backend Sep 24 05:37:55 iirc myth looks for /etc/mythtv/* or ~/.mythtv/* as configs Sep 24 05:38:39 but anything can be changed via the gui or via mythweb Sep 24 05:39:31 triggered by rwhitby I'm looking at xmltv now. Sep 24 05:39:43 I'm using that too Sep 24 05:39:47 This is quite a new area for me. Sep 24 05:39:55 not mainly, but a different one Sep 24 05:40:09 my perl is not that good; I'm still a sed/awk/grep/diff/sh/whatever person Sep 24 05:40:33 http://www.addictivesoftware.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=3&Itemid=28 Sep 24 05:40:45 that's a cache for tvgids.nl Sep 24 05:40:57 it has the next 3 days with complete info cached Sep 24 05:41:20 since a regualr rn against tvgids.nl will take a few hours Sep 24 05:41:58 eFfeM: did you ever see mythweb in action? Sep 24 05:42:06 just got it running on FC, but onthe slug it complains on make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/ExtUtils/typemap', needed by `ReadKey.c'. Stop. Sep 24 05:42:24 missing perl modules? Sep 24 05:42:27 3no, I only had access to a pc with mythtv on it in the past Sep 24 05:42:31 yes missing modules Sep 24 05:45:07 koen, I've ssen that program listing Sep 24 05:45:53 ssen -> seen Sep 24 05:46:06 it was on the mythtv pc I've had Sep 24 08:08:18 hey [g2] Sep 24 08:08:43 <[g2]> howdy koen ! Sep 24 08:09:03 <[g2]> how goes ? Sep 24 08:09:24 pretty good Sep 24 08:09:30 a weekend devoid of cooking :) Sep 24 08:09:45 <[g2]> heh.... Isn't that every weekend ? Sep 24 08:09:53 almost Sep 24 08:10:08 today a dinner with my parent and tomorrow with my grandmother Sep 24 08:10:18 parents* Sep 24 08:11:22 and it's great weather outside to make some pictures of spiders and their webs Sep 24 08:11:46 note to self: to not step on usb plugs Sep 24 08:12:38 * koen gets some pliers Sep 24 08:12:41 <[g2]> cool. Give your parents a big hug Sep 24 10:12:32 hi, got xmltv running (as mentioned by rwhitby-asleep) Sep 24 10:12:53 getting 1 day of all dutch channels takes 30 mins Sep 24 10:13:14 getting it to work was a pain, I think I had to d/l at least 15 other perl packages Sep 24 10:13:39 but it works (and no, my notes are not good enough to write an howto about this, so don't bother to ask...) Sep 24 10:17:19 heh Sep 24 10:17:25 30 mins? Sep 24 10:18:19 that;'s what time says Sep 24 10:19:29 nail, do you have some time for a non nslu2 question? Sep 24 10:20:29 possible Sep 24 10:20:33 depends on the question ;) Sep 24 10:20:55 shall we take this off-line, as not to clobber the log and channel with non-nslu discussion Sep 24 10:21:43 ok? Sep 24 10:21:59 yeah Sep 24 10:31:38 what's the q btw? Sep 24 10:31:47 others might be interested ;) Sep 24 10:32:13 and it's not like the channel is too active :P Sep 24 10:32:37 oh, tried to pm you Sep 24 10:32:46 i wanted to install mythtv on my pc, to see if I can use the slug as a mythtv backend Sep 24 10:32:56 I'm using fedora core Sep 24 10:33:03 problem is that if I d/l the rpm it always complains about something else that is missing Sep 24 10:33:10 and if I do that, I again bump into the sitation that another lib is missing Sep 24 10:33:12 the reason you can't pm me is that you're not registered with nickserv ;) Sep 24 10:33:21 don't know how what I am doing wrong or why Sep 24 10:33:33 do you have a clue? Sep 24 10:33:41 yeah, i should register ... Sep 24 10:33:42 FC can't automatically resolve dependencies? Sep 24 10:34:00 That's gotta be a serious pain in the ass ;) Sep 24 10:34:29 No, I don't know how to solve that, except downloading each of the requested rpm's until mythtv is satisfied Sep 24 10:34:35 or my system is configed lousy Sep 24 10:34:44 and I can neither get apt to run Sep 24 10:34:49 (and that's probably a fair bit of stuff... It spent ages compiling on my gentoo box) Sep 24 10:35:15 found an automated script for FC Sep 24 10:35:47 for mythtv that is Sep 24 10:35:56 but can't even get it to run Sep 24 10:36:07 and the yum feeds in fc have very little Sep 24 10:36:08 hmm Sep 24 10:36:23 e.g. for mythtv it started requiring qmake Sep 24 10:36:29 I'm sorry, but fedora core is not a distro I've ever touched Sep 24 10:36:37 which requires qt Sep 24 10:36:41 etc .etc Sep 24 10:36:44 ouch Sep 24 10:37:03 nevermind, thought this to be something trivial I was missing Sep 24 10:37:19 sometimes I feel like someone from a century ago. Sep 24 10:37:27 I used to do a lot on unix V7 .... Sep 24 10:37:28 I never figured out the package-stuff on redhat / fc Sep 24 10:37:33 heheh Sep 24 10:38:02 I'm using ubuntu now, and it's more or less satisfying ;) Sep 24 10:38:40 well, I fell for FC because FC3 was the only thing I could get to install on my laptop from DVD. Sep 24 10:38:45 aha Sep 24 10:38:55 that sucks Sep 24 10:38:56 The laptop has a usb dvd drive and most distro's then did not support it Sep 24 10:39:05 yeah, not uncommon unfortunately Sep 24 10:39:28 yup, and as I had the dvd floating around I decided to use that at home as well. Sep 24 10:39:32 probably not a good idea... Sep 24 10:39:35 yeah Sep 24 10:39:37 well Sep 24 10:39:44 might've been a good idea Sep 24 10:39:56 but not much I can help you with ;) Sep 24 10:39:58 well, it seemed good at that time ... Sep 24 10:40:09 np Sep 24 10:40:21 a lot of people seem to use ubuntu isn't it Sep 24 10:40:58 debian, ubuntu and gentoo seem to be the distros of choice between the more techno-savvy people I know Sep 24 10:41:33 Personally, I'm running ubuntu and gentoo Sep 24 10:41:38 ok, I might decide to bite the bullet and reinstall in due time Sep 24 10:46:22 hi koen Sep 24 10:46:31 hey eFfeM Sep 24 20:13:38 apt-get install ssh Sep 24 20:13:45 oops Sep 24 20:22:37 "wrong window" Sep 25 23:41:20 hi, i've just been reading the debianslug page. Is my understanding correct that this uses the very same kernel as openslug? Sep 25 23:41:31 yes Sep 25 23:42:08 ah, ok, that means that my pvr driver issues are not related to this kernel difference Sep 25 23:43:44 one other q: is there a way (or should it be easy to add a way) to get debug output from the slug in case one has no serial? My pvr driver lets the system crash (about 5 mins after the device is removed!) but I have no serial, so I can't see why Sep 25 23:44:02 Use netconsole Sep 25 23:44:12 netconsole? Sep 25 23:44:18 see the wiki Sep 25 23:44:33 or use a hard disk rootfs and examine /var/log/messages after the crash Sep 25 23:45:45 Yeah, can do that Sep 25 23:46:03 Oh, netconsole is built in and has been for some time, ignore the EnableNetconsole page, I don't know who wrote that... Sep 25 23:46:06 is /var/log/messages cleaned on each boot, (so should I reboot without harddisk attached) Sep 25 23:46:32 no, it isn't cleaned at all, ever... Sep 25 23:46:44 ok, i'll give it a try; thanks Sep 26 00:55:22 jbowler-zzz, btw /var/log/messages contained nothing interesting\ Sep 26 00:56:02 couldn't get netconsole to run, the modprobe netconsole was ok, but the next step was to run logread and this complains about the absence of a circular buffer Sep 26 00:57:45 well, yes, that's the flash case. Look in /var/log/messages - anyway, if the modprobe is ok the messages will be spewing out on your console. Sep 26 00:58:39 system crashes may not get into a file system log because the system crashes before the write completes. Sep 26 01:00:13 yeah that's what i expected Sep 27 01:20:05 good morning all Sep 27 05:08:51 koen, have you seen this yet? Sep 27 05:08:52 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Peripherals/AudioAdapter Sep 27 05:09:12 moreover, have you gotten your usb audio dongle to actually play anything ? Sep 27 05:11:03 no, and not yet Sep 27 05:12:43 My imic still sits silent too Sep 27 05:13:10 is that SPLIT_ISO thing enabled in openslug? Sep 27 05:13:19 not by default. Sep 27 05:13:24 I was gonna try it tommrow. Sep 27 05:51:20 Cool! Openslug2.7!!! Sep 27 05:51:26 What happened to 2.6? Sep 27 06:00:41 what are the changes? I didn't see any posting anywhere? Sep 27 06:03:21 I assume jbowler is working on a release mail or something ;) Sep 27 06:03:40 Actually, I just got a nslu2-changeset mail. Sep 27 06:03:52 I hope it has the new kernel changes. Sep 27 06:04:01 I like having the latest! :) Sep 27 08:21:43 I'm trying to compile the new Openslug 2.7 beta source tarball. I want the 2.6.14-rc2 kernel so I added PREFERRED_VERSION_openslug-kernel = "2.6.14-rc2" to my local.conf Sep 27 08:21:55 And I still get 2.6.12.2. WRong way? Sep 27 08:32:56 VoodooZ_Work: did you try cleaning opesnlug-kernel and then rebuilding? Sep 27 08:33:19 ie, bb -cclean openslug-kernel && bb openslug-kernel Sep 27 08:33:38 (maybe not needed, just guessing) Sep 27 08:33:43 there *should* be a binary release later today (if I can lick it correctly) Sep 27 08:36:24 DaKa, yes, I always do a full build. Sep 27 08:37:56 But wouldn't overiding PREFERRED_VERSION_openslug-kernel = "2.6.14-rc2" in my local.conf do it though. Sep 27 08:37:57 VoodooZ_Work: hm.. is local.conf actually parsed? Sep 27 08:38:09 how about putting in openslug.conf ? Sep 27 08:38:14 good question... Let me check.. Sep 27 08:38:39 Well, I prefer to keep my changes away from the source as I have to move them every new release. Sep 27 08:39:49 The one in conf/distro/ you mean? Sep 27 08:40:08 yep.. Sep 27 08:40:17 That's the one that already contains the PREFERRED_VERSION_openslug-kernel ?= "2.6.12.2" line Sep 27 08:40:23 yep.. Sep 27 08:41:49 I think I found a problem. Sep 27 08:42:28 hm? Sep 27 08:42:30 It looks like something is still pointing to my old 2.5 tree so it built it. Sep 27 08:42:57 topdir.conf? Sep 27 08:43:04 potentially yes. Sep 27 08:43:05 or whatever it was called= Sep 27 08:43:09 ?* Sep 27 08:43:19 Shouldn't that be created automatically? I never understood that thing Sep 27 08:43:29 so many f'n config files now Sep 27 08:43:34 :) Sep 27 08:43:37 :( Sep 27 08:43:58 if you copied the tree it wont get updated to the new location, no without make setup iirc Sep 27 08:44:19 I did a diff and patch. Maybe if I delete it. Sep 27 08:44:22 but this is all a bit blury right now.. Sep 27 08:44:28 me too. Sep 27 08:44:57 trying again without topdir Sep 27 08:47:09 I did a make create-topdir and I'll have to resource my setup-env to make sure Sep 27 08:48:18 seems to work. Sep 27 08:48:20 thanks. Sep 27 08:50:25 :) Sep 27 12:16:09 hubi... is there a way to make the /linuxrc more verbose so that shows with logread? Sep 27 14:18:41 [g2]: You around? I wonder if you can school me on the kernels in openslug. Sep 27 14:19:01 There is a kernel in /dev/mtd2 and another in /dev/mtdblock4/boot Sep 27 14:19:08 Can I clobber one of them? Sep 27 14:20:33 oh Sep 27 14:24:16 any reason why the berlios tarball builds irssi? (among other things) Sep 27 14:24:39 irssi is cool! Sep 27 14:24:52 it was the first thing I built on my slug Sep 27 14:24:53 it builds irssi? That sounds like ... breakage Sep 27 14:25:23 I haven't been able to build irssi cross yet Sep 27 14:25:27 but the idea of the source release at berlios - is for binary only Sep 27 14:25:40 now miau is being built Sep 27 14:26:07 what in the world??? Sep 27 14:26:11 aha Sep 27 14:26:23 so it builds the extra packages, that's what you're noticing Sep 27 14:26:45 for what purpose???????? Sep 27 14:26:50 there should be a target to build just the firmware, and a target to build everything... Sep 27 14:29:08 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, with APEX you can take your pick and clobber one Sep 27 14:29:28 [g2]: Hey, we're on debonaras talking about it. Sep 27 14:29:42 There seems to be a bug in APEX ATM and it doesn't read JFFS2 properly. Sep 27 14:29:46 I'm investigating. Sep 27 14:30:16 [g2]: BTW which APEX release are you using? Sep 27 14:30:32 looks like the makefile now has make distro as default - rather than make image Sep 27 14:30:51 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk and old one :) Sep 27 14:30:59 <[g2]> I'll check the versions tonight Sep 27 14:31:01 well, that's a wasted 5+ hours of compile time Sep 27 14:31:14 ByronT: bad luck. Sep 27 14:31:38 really bad luck... Sep 27 14:31:41 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, I want to talk to you about IDE too Sep 27 14:31:50 <[g2]> are you going to be around later ? Sep 27 14:32:18 <[g2]> I'll check and if not I'll send you e-mail Sep 27 14:32:36 <[g2]> I'll include the version of APEX on the fat semi-turbo slug Sep 27 14:32:45 [g2]: I should be here for some time. Sep 27 14:32:49 <[g2]> as the Loft protos are running 533 Sep 27 14:32:55 Nice. Sep 27 14:33:01 <[g2]> they are the real turbos now :) Sep 27 14:33:07 I've coded some IDE drivers, so I'm mostly familiar. Sep 27 14:33:11 <[g2]> dinner calls bbiab Sep 27 14:33:15 ttfn Sep 27 14:33:31 <[g2]> I've got a driver and the ide block device is not getting created on the init Sep 27 14:33:42 k. Sep 27 14:33:48 <[g2]> it's a generic ixp4xx_cf_ide driver forward ported from 2.4 Sep 27 14:34:10 <[g2]> bb in < 1 hr Sep 27 14:56:41 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, re Sep 27 14:59:02 [g2]: Hm? Sep 27 15:01:02 <[g2]> beewoolie hey.... Let be plug in the fat turbo and get the APEX revision Sep 27 15:01:20 THX. It looks like there is a bug in the zlib decompression code I'm using. Sep 27 15:01:26 I need to look into it more. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 15:07:06 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 02:36:11 2005 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 02:59:57 2005