**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 19 03:00:21 2005 Oct 19 03:02:55 I couldn't help noticing there is some buzzer code flying around. Can I control the buzzer from command line? Oct 19 03:50:20 jelle there is, but i don't have it. I seem to recall it is posted on nslu2-developers Oct 19 03:50:37 also it is probably on the head (but I could not get that one to compile yesterday) Oct 19 04:40:51 IIRC noone has written an app to control the buzzer in head yet. There's an app for 2.7-beta though :P Oct 19 04:47:03 I'm still waiting for the 1-bit mp3 player. Oct 19 04:47:20 write it Oct 19 04:47:22 :) Oct 19 04:52:53 <[g2]> dyoung-away they've been out for years right ? just lots of over-sampling Oct 19 04:53:05 yep. Oct 19 04:53:48 Theres a pretty good VHDL implementation for a 1-bit piezo-electric mp3 driver someplace. Oct 19 05:05:28 NAiL: so how do i get this buzzer app on my slug? ;) Oct 19 05:07:01 well... you could code the buzzer app yourself if you're running from head. If you're running the 2.7-beta release, "ipkg install buzzer" ;I) Oct 19 05:08:04 eeeek it is installing buzzer! Oct 19 05:08:39 now i'll get to scare my g/f, I'm at work connecting to my slug over vpn. she's sitting next to the slug... uh uh Oct 19 05:08:58 hahah Oct 19 05:10:29 she says it sounds sad... not as happy as before (while rebooting...) Oct 19 05:10:41 yeah. Oct 19 05:10:45 instead of "BEEP!" Oct 19 05:10:52 it says "beep....." Oct 19 05:11:24 can;t hear it myself... frustrating! Oct 19 05:11:35 what is the "tone parameter? Oct 19 05:11:51 that's 1-20 IIRC Oct 19 05:11:53 * dyoung-away dunnos Oct 19 05:12:09 IIRC it's an approximation of tones. Oct 19 05:12:15 instead of freq? Oct 19 05:12:16 ah Oct 19 05:12:17 But it looked kinda... off Oct 19 05:13:40 well that was fun. i think. Oct 19 05:14:30 * koen spots the new nslu2 logo Oct 19 05:14:31 cute Oct 19 05:19:25 now i can add some noisy startup script, that will tell me when the slug started fine from memstick, since sometimes it seems to skip the stick and just boot as if there is no disk attached. Oct 19 05:27:12 jelle why not add an usb audio device? Oct 19 05:27:33 koen, did you ever get your iMic working? Oct 19 05:27:55 I haven't tried lately Oct 19 05:28:23 (i tried to access my webcam mic yesterday, but to no avail, usb_audio loads, but /dev/dsp is not responding Oct 19 05:28:56 made a setup with motion and two webcams but no sound Oct 19 05:29:47 didn't get to buying an iMic yet (or something similar) Oct 19 05:31:12 thinking of it, is usb_snd_audio also for input, or just for output? Oct 19 05:31:38 iirc for both Oct 19 05:31:52 yeah, that was what I thought Oct 19 05:32:17 it could be the 'usb 1.1 device on usb 2.0 port' problem Oct 19 05:32:31 speaking of usb problems Oct 19 05:32:41 my usb200m nic only want to do 10mbit Oct 19 05:32:58 if I plug it into any other computer it will to 100Mbit Oct 19 05:33:21 koen, i have connected it directly to the slug and I have also built ehci with split iso Oct 19 05:46:10 koen, i just tried my wired eth adapter and this one nicely gets 100 Mbit (according to the led) Oct 19 05:46:22 even when I connect trough a usb 1.1 hub Oct 19 05:46:31 strange Oct 19 05:48:05 i have a philips cpwue01 which uses a pegasus II chipset Oct 19 05:48:47 and apart from loading pegasus.ko I only did "ifconfig eth1 up 192.168.1.23' Oct 19 05:52:26 eFfeM: sorry, I've been slacking on the update to the pvrusb2 stuff. Oct 19 05:52:40 eFfeM: I do intend to update the one in the feed soon. Oct 19 05:53:29 dyoung-zzzz, yesterday evening I downloaded and compiled the latest version and it seems to work fine Oct 19 05:53:57 I just copied your bb file and modified it to use the latest version. Oct 19 05:53:59 eFfeM: what are you using for a channel changer? Oct 19 05:54:08 eFfeM: do you have write access to the repo? Oct 19 05:54:22 dyoung-zzzz, I use /sys :-) Oct 19 05:54:43 echo 216000000 > ctl_frequency/cur_val Oct 19 05:54:59 ah, so you have a channel to frequency conversion table ? Oct 19 05:55:02 I have no write access to the repo Oct 19 05:55:41 dyoung-zzzz, lol, I'm in europe, we're not very channel oriented here, my cable op just gives me a list of freqs Oct 19 05:56:01 do you need a us chan<->freq table? I suspect you can google for that very easily Oct 19 05:56:08 Probably. Oct 19 05:56:12 Just lazy. :-) Oct 19 05:56:43 eFfeM: Are you using the "head" for building now? Oct 19 05:56:55 problem with channel based solutions (like MS uses :-) ) is that my cable op has signals on non-channel freqs (like 18+ or 61-) Oct 19 05:57:21 I tried the head yesterday, and could not compile, didn't try today yet Oct 19 05:57:30 had a 3way merge problem with x1205 Oct 19 05:59:56 eFfeM, since you are taking a lead role in making the PVRUSB2 thingo work; would you mind speaking with koen a bit about gaining write access to the monotone repo so you can commit your changes? Oct 19 06:00:13 I will happily vouch for your work if there is any question. Oct 19 06:00:24 me too Oct 19 06:01:05 send a @openembedded.org pubkey to koen@handhelds.org and mickeyl@handhelds.org Oct 19 06:01:08 ok, but I probably need some instructions/help to get started; actually I used to be an sccs/rcs guy (yes I am that old) Oct 19 06:01:56 koen: Thanks. Oct 19 06:02:26 eFfeM: Okay, I'm about to sleep now, but either myself or rwhitby or other folk here will be happy to help get you started. Oct 19 06:02:38 ok, great Oct 19 06:02:47 the basics are covered in http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MonotonePhraseBook Oct 19 06:04:49 tnx, bookmarked that one Oct 19 06:05:42 also found this: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/CreateAndUseMonotoneKeys Oct 19 06:05:53 away, back in 15 mins or so Oct 19 08:47:36 do we have tcpdump for openslug? Oct 19 09:21:36 hm... //usr/lib/ipkg/info/dnsmasq.postinst: 7: update-rc.d: not found Oct 19 09:21:53 something broken? Oct 19 09:28:59 /sbin not in $path? Oct 19 09:47:04 <[g2]> koen hey -- are you following the a780 development at all ? Oct 19 09:47:33 actually not at all Oct 19 09:48:01 <[g2]> have you seen much activity in OE or #oe ? Oct 19 09:48:47 <[g2]> I saw a message from mickely in a forum from this summer but I don't know how much activity there's been Oct 19 09:49:09 <[g2]> that's got a PXA270 you know :) Oct 19 11:24:59 koen, it'll be until tomorrow before I sent the key; I'm forced every once in a while to use another (crappy) os from M$ which caught a trojan, so I decided to do a full scan; will have to wait it out.... Oct 19 11:25:19 no hurry Oct 19 11:25:52 still half a week vacation, but need to do some things around the house.... Oct 19 11:26:02 I'll be away most of tomorrow doing some work Oct 19 11:26:19 gotta go now (party!) Oct 19 11:26:26 have fun Oct 19 11:26:39 ah it is not urgent for me either. I'll be on a business trip next week anyway... Oct 19 11:26:44 tnx Oct 19 14:31:39 jelle: that error usually happens when you're using sudo to ipkg install, instead of "su -" - you need to get root's path to find update-rc.d **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 20 09:58:12 2005 Oct 20 11:33:34 koen, one more thing, do I need to modify something to make the new pvrusb2 driver snapshot the preferred one? Oct 20 11:34:07 it the version number is higher it should be the default Oct 20 11:35:05 hm, we have in the dir: pvrusb2-mci_20050911.bb pvrusb2-mci_20050921.bb pvrusb2-mci_20051016.bb Oct 20 11:35:05 and associated dirs with a patch for the Makefile Oct 20 11:36:58 koen, does this date qualify as version number? I just did things the same way as set up by dyoung who did the first two versions Oct 20 11:37:21 the thing after the _ is used as a version number Oct 20 11:37:32 unless PV is specified inside the file Oct 20 11:38:57 no PV, only a PR = r0 Oct 20 11:39:36 ok, it will pick the 20051016 version Oct 20 11:40:30 tnx Oct 20 11:40:46 that is what we want Oct 20 12:10:23 need some expert advise, I just flashed a new image and when I try to ssh to the slug I get "No route to host" Oct 20 12:10:39 also ping does not work (and ping to 192.168.0.1 neither) Oct 20 12:11:26 what could be wrong & is there a suggestion to fix it? (i do not have serial) Oct 20 12:12:38 reboot without hard disk did not help Oct 20 14:21:56 is it possible to use a 2.6.14rc3 kernel with a 2.6.14rc2 root fs? Oct 20 14:27:06 eFfeM: should be no problem Oct 20 14:28:18 rwhitby, I had nc running in parallel and at some point I got: Oct 20 14:28:19 ixp425_eth: ixEthMiiLinkStatus failed on PHY0. Oct 20 14:28:19 Can't determine Oct 20 14:28:19 Can't determine Oct 20 14:28:19 the auto negotiated parameters. Using default values. Oct 20 14:28:40 the dup can't determine is from nc, for some reason I get everything twice Oct 20 14:29:42 rwhitby, i'll try to flash only the new kernel Oct 20 14:36:23 eFfeM: that error is expected Oct 20 14:36:41 eFfeM: if you're in, then use reflash -i whole-image Oct 20 14:38:28 i did that after I build the head and that version did not work Oct 20 14:38:41 weird Oct 20 14:38:43 I went back to rc2, that worked Oct 20 14:38:55 well, you need serial if you're flashing from head :-) Oct 20 14:38:59 then I reflashed only the latest kernel Oct 20 14:39:18 I know i need serial, ByronT already told me ... Oct 20 14:39:23 yeah, that will work as long as the kernel verion in /lib/modules doesn't change Oct 20 14:39:39 I'll get to serial in time Oct 20 14:39:49 rwhitby: Whats wrong with head? Oct 20 14:39:59 are you on the head? Oct 20 14:40:05 head is *always* alpha state Oct 20 14:40:14 use at your own risk Oct 20 14:40:38 that's why it is called the 4bleeding1 edge Oct 20 14:40:44 if you want stable / just works, you should at least use the binary Oct 20 14:40:49 agree Oct 20 14:40:56 ByronT: I'm having issues with the binary in regards to Perl Oct 20 14:41:10 [16:41] "Nothing on earth is forcing you to install the beta versions. It can get rough on the bleeding edge. :)" -- Kris Kwilas, 'Essays on Mind and Matter' Oct 20 14:41:20 lol Oct 20 14:41:49 Well, eFfeM tipped me off to something that might be the matter with my openslug setup, so if this fixs it, I'll just track stable Oct 20 14:42:14 ok. calling it a day, catch u later **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 20 16:06:11 2005 Oct 20 16:07:59 rwhitby: I believe you need x1205.hctosys=1 on the command line, though I thought that only affected the RTC Oct 20 16:08:51 ok, I'll try that too Oct 20 16:09:09 as you can see from the bootlog, it fails trying to open /dev/console. devfs is there. Oct 20 16:10:03 this is using the initrd-debian.gz-swap from Jacmet's site, and I confirmed that that file with his 2.6.11.2 kernel works. So the problem is in my kernel. I just can't see where. Oct 20 16:11:42 The console command line option matches that in my working LE builds, but I can't be sure they open a console either - remember we had problems with that before. Oct 20 16:14:15 That Warning (about the console) is harmless - it is trying to open /dev/console and failing. This is after the initrd has been run. Oct 20 16:15:10 hmm - so there is something else after that which is failing ... Oct 20 16:15:32 I expect it's something I'm missing from the kernel which the debian installer LE initrd needs Oct 20 16:17:37 It gets a panic immediately afterward, are you sure /linuxrc exists on the thing the initrd sets up as the rootfs? (The initrd will do the only real rootfs stuff - it can't pivot_root). Oct 20 16:17:49 s/only real rootfs/old real rootfs/ Oct 20 16:18:51 the initrd is the rootfs for the installer (/dev/ram0). I dunno what it does inside. I'll have to loop mount it and check it out. Oct 20 16:19:06 In the 2.6.14 kernel if /linuxrc doesn't work then it falls back to /sbin/init (etc), but I'm not sure that happened in 2.6.12 - the relevant code is right at the end of init/main.c Oct 20 16:19:18 gotta do that later - time to get ready for work Oct 20 16:20:12 jbowler: thx for the ideas Oct 20 16:21:08 The panic means 'I got a kernel panic and the task pid was "1" - i.e. the /linuxrc script itself. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 20 18:54:11 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 20 22:27:18 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 20 22:50:17 2005 Oct 21 01:37:46 hi, should this work: Oct 21 01:37:48 mount -o loop openslug-nslu2-20051020072650.rootfs.jffs2 /mnt -t jffs2 Oct 21 01:38:12 i get: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, Oct 21 01:38:12 or too many mounted file systems Oct 21 01:38:28 (want to check what is actually in the rootfs) Oct 21 01:42:04 you need to do some voodoo to mount jffs2 Oct 21 01:44:17 http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarBackupHowto should have some hints Oct 21 02:08:52 koen, tnx, (and sorry for the late response, I was working on another desktop...) Oct 21 02:10:27 i have a problem booting the head img and wanted to peek into the jffs fs Oct 21 02:11:11 no idea what is going on it just seems to boot and it will react on powerdown, but it does not react on its ip address. very weird Oct 21 02:14:50 is this a known issue? Oct 21 02:38:46 eFfeM: you *really* need serial :-) Oct 21 02:42:29 yes, i know Oct 21 02:43:05 i'm away next week, but the week after I'll try to find someone with better desoldering skills and tools than mine to help me out Oct 21 02:44:19 meanwhile I have discovered that the defconfig on the head for 2.6.14-rc3 does not set CONFIG_CPU_BIG_ENDIAN Oct 21 02:44:41 use the percussive method of solder removal ... Oct 21 02:45:08 I'm not too sure about the status of LE and I am not really ready for that Oct 21 02:45:15 could try that indeed Oct 21 02:46:11 i'm not very good in (de)soldering so I had the speed fix and auto turn on done for me, but that guy could only get one hole open Oct 21 02:46:17 he used those sucking wires Oct 21 02:47:18 you can also use a very small drill Oct 21 02:47:31 or a big needle Oct 21 02:48:10 or push the header pins through one by one and then put the plastic back on ... Oct 21 02:49:16 yeah, I used the needle trick before, but my lousy skills have degraded even more and with smd's I'm also a little bit more scary with heat problems Oct 21 02:49:47 i'll give it a try, but probably not today Oct 21 02:50:19 do you happen to know abut this CONFIG_CPU_BIG_ENDIAN thing? Oct 21 02:50:22 brb Oct 21 02:53:10 back **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 21 03:00:00 2005