**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 02:59:56 2005 Nov 04 08:58:48 hi ti all guys Nov 04 08:58:55 i ve a question: Nov 04 08:59:35 from strictly legal point of view, is it allowed to install openslug into the nslu2 ? Nov 04 08:59:45 for example Nov 04 08:59:53 It's your device, why not? Nov 04 09:00:07 if i ipotetically buy 100 nslu2 Nov 04 09:00:16 flash them with openslug Nov 04 09:00:29 and use them for my commercial purpose Nov 04 09:00:35 as embedded systems Nov 04 09:00:45 can cisco tell me somethin ? Nov 04 09:02:27 ... Nov 04 09:03:37 I can imagine cisco my have a problem if you use their name without proper disclaimers Nov 04 09:03:44 may* Nov 04 09:05:21 suppose i hide they name Nov 04 09:05:28 get the nslu2 Nov 04 09:05:40 put it on a custom box of mine Nov 04 09:05:48 and install it somewhere Nov 04 09:05:54 is it legal ? Nov 04 09:06:25 I can't see the problem with that Nov 04 09:06:56 it's just a problem i am raised to myself... Nov 04 09:07:06 it's just a problem i have raised to myself... Nov 04 09:16:52 haiko: not around here anyways, companies sell modified xbox and whatnot legally here Nov 04 09:17:48 it's not illegal to buy new cars, modify them and sell them on is it? :) Nov 04 09:19:12 kolla_: dreambox? ;) Nov 04 09:20:04 that too :) Nov 04 09:20:23 personally I dont have any need for even more TV channels Nov 04 09:20:53 and definely no need to record anything, I'm already way behind in my series watching :) Nov 04 09:23:16 sigh, my hands are all numb from driving gocart yesterday Nov 04 09:24:30 I buildt another openslug image today, hopefull it will get online this time Nov 04 09:31:35 hi :) Nov 04 09:32:22 i managed to get an opensslug working with its / on an usb-stick :) Nov 04 09:32:45 the next step i ve done, was to install vim - works Nov 04 09:33:30 but.. my problems are the the keys insert, delete, pgup, pgdn, pos1, end - in vim, they produce only crap Nov 04 09:33:56 does this have to do with some terminalsettings? Nov 04 09:34:17 most lilkely yes, I havent had any problems yet Nov 04 09:34:22 hm Nov 04 09:34:36 .inputrc Nov 04 09:34:49 theres no difference, if i use aterm or konsole, from a gentooo or suse box Nov 04 09:35:00 oh.. I do get crap too in openslug Nov 04 09:35:13 you probably have a .inputrc in your homedir on gentoo or suse Nov 04 09:35:35 NAiL: nope, i dont. Nov 04 09:35:38 or /etc/inputrc Nov 04 09:35:50 there's one on openslug Nov 04 09:35:53 copy gentoo's /etc/inputrc to /etc/inputrc in openslug Nov 04 09:35:54 and i dont have these problems in other vims on other systems Nov 04 09:36:03 kolla_: quite possible, but it appears to be borked :P Nov 04 09:36:15 hmm ok - ill try it. thanks for the tip :) Nov 04 09:36:18 np Nov 04 09:36:24 tell me if it works ;) Nov 04 09:36:30 aight :) Nov 04 09:37:34 NAiL: I copied over my inputrc from my gentoo-slug to my openslug, and it made no difference Nov 04 09:38:38 oh wait Nov 04 09:38:45 on openslug $TERM is vt100 Nov 04 09:39:00 yes Nov 04 09:39:06 export TERM=xterm Nov 04 09:39:08 problem solved Nov 04 09:39:18 chillie: you got that? :) Nov 04 09:40:26 weeee :))) Nov 04 09:40:31 THANKS :) Nov 04 09:40:47 you're welcome Nov 04 09:42:14 but.. Nov 04 09:42:29 oh no :) Nov 04 09:43:04 that only works in vim etc. but when im in a bash-prompt and type my pos1 or end-key, theres drawd a "~" on my screen Nov 04 09:43:46 im not used to [ctrl] + a.. i like "pos1" on my keyboard :) Nov 04 09:43:54 is there a way to ged rid of this? Nov 04 09:44:01 probably,hm Nov 04 09:44:34 yes :) Nov 04 09:44:49 my inputrc from gentoo fixed it Nov 04 09:45:08 so, if you have a gentoo box, you can copy over /etc/inputrc to your openslug:/etc/inputrc Nov 04 09:45:21 hmm nope, mine not. i did already scp it to my nslu, but nothing happened. Nov 04 09:45:35 well, you have to log out and back in again Nov 04 09:45:38 maybe i have to sth. like env-update? Nov 04 09:45:41 i did Nov 04 09:45:47 strange, here it worked Nov 04 09:46:04 http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1999-02/msg00141.html Nov 04 09:46:15 for 8-bit with bash Nov 04 09:46:19 pageup/pagedown still make ~, but home and end works Nov 04 09:46:46 not sure what pageup/down is supposed to do in a shell.. first and last command? Nov 04 09:47:05 dunno Nov 04 09:47:12 yeah, something like that Nov 04 09:47:20 http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1999-02/msg00141.html Nov 04 09:47:21 argh Nov 04 09:47:23 # pgup key Nov 04 09:47:24 "\e[5~":history-search-forward Nov 04 09:48:49 ok Nov 04 09:49:00 never use those in shell myself Nov 04 09:49:18 I'm one of those nutcases that use vi-mode even in the shell Nov 04 09:50:14 hmm Nov 04 09:50:19 still doesnt work for me Nov 04 09:50:44 not even home/end? Nov 04 09:50:48 nope Nov 04 09:50:58 but maybe that depends on my german keyboard Nov 04 09:51:06 nah Nov 04 09:51:10 mine is norwegian :) Nov 04 09:51:25 but.. i use my inputrc from getoo - and there it doesnt make any problems Nov 04 09:52:16 how big is it? Nov 04 09:52:28 mine is 1258 bytes Nov 04 09:53:16 mine is 1,3k .. after appending the stuff out of the link, NAiL posted some lines above Nov 04 09:53:32 ok Nov 04 09:53:59 aahh crap Nov 04 09:54:13 now it works from konsole on my suse-box Nov 04 09:54:26 bot not from my aterm on my gentoo Nov 04 09:55:05 *shrug* Nov 04 09:55:11 konsole here Nov 04 09:56:17 :) Nov 04 09:56:47 NAiL: you have one of these? http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=310536&cks=SER Nov 04 09:58:24 that price is much more sane than that of iomegas box Nov 04 09:58:36 hm, have to add disk though Nov 04 09:59:29 er.. powerpc based? Nov 04 10:00:33 heh, funny Nov 04 10:00:47 change architecture and add a + to the product name Nov 04 10:02:16 hmm oki :) thats enough for today - big thanx for your friendly help, guys. :) have a nice weekend Nov 04 12:41:41 kolla_: Got a ds101, not a ds101g+ Nov 04 12:41:54 mamoz sold it a fair bit cheaper :P Nov 04 12:42:03 ok Nov 04 12:43:06 they have it for 1895,- Nov 04 12:43:12 2550,- for the + Nov 04 12:43:29 funny how they can do that.. change the box entirely and just add a + :) Nov 04 12:47:33 NAiL: you know how generic ppc box the ds101+ is? Nov 04 12:48:31 probably not, since you dont have it :) Nov 04 15:43:48 hm, how does a turnuped (to usb stick) internal flash differ from a untouched internal flash - I thought /linuxrc was the only difference Nov 04 15:51:08 oh, and my "daily" build didnt boot today either.. I noticed that the ethernet modules was located in a different directory than the rest Nov 04 15:51:15 /lib/modules/2.6.14/kernel/drivers/net/ixp400_eth.ko Nov 04 15:51:29 not 2.6.14-rc5 Nov 04 15:52:00 so I copied it over and symliked 2.6.14 to 2.6.14-rc5 Nov 04 15:52:07 symlinked.. Nov 04 15:52:16 but it didnt make any difference Nov 04 15:53:12 in the old driver, the mac address is set manually.. how's that with the new driver? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 05 02:59:57 2005