**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 05 02:59:57 2005 Nov 05 12:21:01 eh Nov 05 12:21:18 eh to you too Nov 05 12:21:26 heh Nov 05 12:21:38 sorry I was confused with the nickserve thing Nov 05 12:21:45 heh Nov 05 12:21:55 man my slug is taking forever to get here Nov 05 12:22:21 I've got disk enclosures, a hub, everything is set if I just had that little bugger Nov 05 12:23:36 anyone know what the openslug support for the GeneSys Logic USB-IDE devices is like? The regular linux box I've been testing them with doesn't deal well with them Nov 05 12:23:55 The patch for it should be included Nov 05 12:24:15 The Genesys bridge chip is buggy as you've found out :) Nov 05 12:24:50 yeah it is. Is the patch the mainline kernel (2.6.12) or is it something newer? Nov 05 12:25:15 No idea if it's in the mainstream kernel or not Nov 05 12:25:41 The bug is that it doesn't like commands too quickly and that it can't deal with requests over a certain size Nov 05 12:25:42 I somehow struck out twice and got a hub with a Genesys chipset too, it seems to work but shows up as a "full speed" device Nov 05 12:26:47 That's a USB1 hub Nov 05 12:27:10 The USB IF really dropped the ball on naming USB speeds Nov 05 12:27:28 well, in windows it says it's USB2, I should time a transfer to be sure. The box claims 480Mb/s Nov 05 12:28:03 yeah they're bastards... "what could be faster than full-speed? I'll buy it." Nov 05 12:28:36 You got any other hubs you can try? Nov 05 12:28:44 hey since you seem to know what you're talking about... will it be possible to use a flash drive w/ openslug? Nov 05 12:28:58 To do? Nov 05 12:29:00 the wiki seems to suggest this only works with unslung, but the wiki has problems Nov 05 12:29:27 well I was thinking like everything except the data I want to share over NFS/SMB would be on the drive Nov 05 12:29:45 Yeah you can if you really wanted to but you have to be careful about how you set it up Nov 05 12:30:03 so like home directories and shares would go on my IDE disks and everything else on the flash Nov 05 12:30:16 Flash memory doesn't like being written too many times so using it for swap wouldn't be an amazing idea. Also you'd probably want to turn off atime for your FS. Nov 05 12:30:27 yeah obviously not swap :) Nov 05 12:30:42 right otherwise everything you read a file it writes Nov 05 12:31:04 Somebody has done it for swap though. Their theory was that they don't hammer the memory that much so it'll be relatively unused and also that flash memory drives are cheap so if it does die then it is easy to replace Nov 05 12:31:12 Yeah. It'll update the atime for everything you look at Nov 05 12:32:22 so say I start with a fresh slug, I flash OpenSlug onto its built-in flash, where do I go from there? Copy everything onto the thumbdrive and modify redboot to boot from there? Nov 05 12:33:31 sorry for so many questions... I'll wiki all this once I get it working Nov 05 12:34:01 You can just mount the flash drive where ever you want it as well Nov 05 12:35:48 so like /boot would go in the onboard flash and / would go on the outboard? And I put the swap on the IDE disks Nov 05 12:36:17 Hang on. When you say flash, you mean the internal flash or a USB memory stick? Nov 05 12:36:35 If you want to use a USB memory stick then you follow the same instructions as per a HD but use the stick instead Nov 05 12:36:36 "onboard flash" -> internal, "outboard flash" -> stick Nov 05 12:37:00 Sorry :) Nov 05 12:37:22 Just follow the same instructions for a HD basically but plug the flash drive in only Nov 05 12:38:00 Cool. I'm also hoping to do raid mirroring... anyone done that with Openslug? Wiki claims you need Unslung for that. Nov 05 12:39:04 You should be able to but I don't know of anybody that has tried Nov 05 12:41:03 Well with my luck Genesys probably has a bug that prevents software RADI too :) Nov 05 12:41:08 *RAID Nov 05 12:41:20 It probably won't be too speedy with the Genesys enclosure no... Nov 05 12:42:04 How much of a hit you think? It's not like we can pull faster than 100Mb/s across the network anyways Nov 05 12:42:13 Sercomm/Linksys put in a hack for their official firmware. The hack is enabled for everything and not just the GL811E chip. Nov 05 12:42:22 http://www.trejan.com/projects/nslu2/r29/drivers-usb-storage-transport.c.patch and http://www.trejan.com/projects/nslu2/r29/drivers-scsi-sd.c.patch Nov 05 12:44:43 yikes that's not a great thing to do Nov 05 12:45:07 I think the mainline kernel has both those patches but they're for the GL811E chip only Nov 05 12:45:28 Your enclosure uses a different chip? Nov 05 12:45:58 no I think it's the same, but I mean the hack isn't for all devices Nov 05 12:46:07 I think Nov 05 12:46:36 Yeah. The one we put into Unslung is just for the GL811E. I assume a similar patch is in OpenSlug if it is in the mainline kernel. Nov 05 12:47:02 if not I guess I can patch it myself Nov 05 12:49:45 well hey thank you for answering all my questions Nov 05 12:49:51 np Nov 05 12:55:59 hmm the openslug kernel has the delay patch but I'm not sure about the max sectors thing. It looks like the scsi sd.c file has change a bit Nov 05 12:56:44 If it has the delay then it probably has the other one as well Nov 05 13:49:13 Zhyla: in general, the wiki only mentions support for things in Unslung, cause OpenSlug is just plain old linux, so anything that is supported by linux is supported by OpenSlug (generally speaking). Nov 05 14:09:15 rwhitby: ah, gotcha **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Nov 06 02:59:59 2005