**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 31 03:00:44 2005 Dec 31 03:16:00 RammY: would you like to contribute a GentooSlug wiki page? Dec 31 03:19:58 rwhitby, I saw that http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddEthernetAdapter just refers to Perhiperals/EthernetAdapter Dec 31 03:20:08 do we want to maintain this ref? Dec 31 03:20:22 (actually I'm not that keen on all those redirecting pages) Dec 31 03:21:59 eFfeM: The plan is to migrate things from HowTos to Peripherals and Applications (where it makes sense). But the old pages are left there because things outside of the wiki link to it. Dec 31 03:23:07 rwhitby, ok. In the past I removed a page or two which were not in the howto any more (notably about audio) Dec 31 03:25:45 yeah, I'm not fussed if pages are removed Dec 31 03:27:14 if they are there but contain only a ref they are mostly dead wood and they obfuscate the results when searching for things Dec 31 03:28:33 agreed Dec 31 03:32:25 rwhitby: wure, i will post my howto into the nslu-linux-wiki when its done Dec 31 03:32:56 s/wure/sure Dec 31 03:33:08 but before i have to get that kernel booting... Dec 31 03:34:20 * rwhitby needs to learn how to read German Dec 31 03:35:54 ;) Dec 31 03:36:50 rwhitby, can we help you with tossing a word to you every day? Let's start with "Rechner" ... :-) Dec 31 03:37:11 * eFfeM is not German, so do not trust his language skills .... Dec 31 03:37:14 I only have one german phrase that has stuck Dec 31 03:37:21 naaa.. lets start with "Kaiserschmarrn!" Dec 31 03:37:26 it was a VxWorks error. Dec 31 03:37:35 dyoung-away, let me guess "ein Bier bitte" Dec 31 03:37:45 or zwei or drei Dec 31 03:37:50 "ist ein fehler aufgetraten" (or something like that) Dec 31 03:37:59 lol there are much better phrases to remember Dec 31 03:38:07 so I was all "yeah, no kdding, I KNWO an error occured dammit" Dec 31 03:38:45 eFfeM: Actually for me its "Ein Dunkels bitte" :-) Dec 31 03:39:23 ah, that's also good. I'd like to try all different kinds Dec 31 03:40:24 * eFfeM lives almost in the center of beer world. 5 km from Belgium, 100 km from Germany Dec 31 03:40:45 (and no, I'm not french :-) ) Dec 31 03:41:17 I suppose there is nobody around with ivman knowledge, is there? Dec 31 03:41:58 actually I am looking for some generic code to recognize a connected still camera Dec 31 03:42:16 I can add a udev rule for this specific cam, but that is not really what I would like to have Dec 31 03:43:11 eFfeM: BTW good work on stuff. Dec 31 03:43:36 I've not been able to do nslu2 work lately; but have been observing whats been going on Dec 31 03:44:46 dyoung-away, tnx, actually I am about to check in the latest version of pvrusb2 Dec 31 03:45:07 Cool! Dec 31 03:45:22 My pvrusb2 is dutifully collecting dust right now. Dec 31 03:45:32 however I need to have a tda9887.conf in /etc/modutils.conf Dec 31 03:46:06 I could probably do this in the pvrusb2 install, but actually it should land in the install of the tda9887 kernel module Dec 31 03:46:32 don't know how to get that in there though as there is no .bb file for that Dec 31 03:46:42 I've also asked in #oe, but got no response Dec 31 03:47:19 Seems to me that since its being put there by the pvrusb2 stuff, it would be fine to put it with the pvrusb2 install stuff. Dec 31 03:47:28 but... what do I kn ow? Dec 31 03:48:15 yeah, decided that was the 2nd best. Still need to write the few lines in the bb file Dec 31 03:48:18 Actually I'm kinda turning my slug into a super-duper home server Dec 31 03:49:04 hehe Dec 31 03:49:17 it now has 2 pvrusb2's (one is on loan for a week), a usb dvd writer (for now only used for audio ripping) and I also had some webcams connected Dec 31 03:49:22 Thats my other problem, I kind of ate a lot of drives building sarge.... Dec 31 03:49:42 I only recently recovered some good drives from other service to put on the h ome slug. Dec 31 03:49:53 ports seem to become the major issue, might need a 2nd hub, and some usb1.1 devices do not really work with 2.0 hubs well Dec 31 03:50:00 (or at least the one I have) Dec 31 03:50:16 are you handy with a soldering iron? Dec 31 03:50:23 not really, why? Dec 31 03:50:45 * eFfeM knows some other people that are handy with an iron Dec 31 03:51:37 There are 3 other ports on the USB chip that are availble Dec 31 03:51:48 but theyre inside and would require some soldering Dec 31 03:51:49 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/EnableExtraUSBPorts Dec 31 03:52:00 actually I'm also working on adding an audio card to my server. It is recognized, alsamixere changes the volume, it can capture, but it refuses to playback, although it works under fedora Dec 31 03:52:31 dyoung-away, yeah, I'm aware of this page. For now, I'm reverting to hubs Dec 31 03:52:41 I saw that you were discussing with someone that had usb audio working.... Dec 31 03:52:47 * eFfeM should post a pic of the wire mess Dec 31 03:53:00 I've still got some issues with with my imic. Dec 31 03:53:10 yes, he had a different card. there are also reports on the wiki Dec 31 03:53:30 koen|away, also got an imic but apparently has similar problems Dec 31 03:53:41 I tested one of the internal ports; it seems to work fine. Dec 31 03:53:54 (actually at some point I wanted to buy an imic, but compusa could not find them although they were in stock) Dec 31 03:54:05 internal ports of the imic? Dec 31 03:54:14 No the internal USB ports. Dec 31 03:54:19 ah ok. Dec 31 03:54:41 I took my imic apart too, I have pictures.. Dec 31 03:54:48 (looking for link) Dec 31 03:55:27 Ah yes Dec 31 03:55:29 http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/iMic Dec 31 03:56:30 ah cool. what is the chip on it (I cannot read it from the pic) Dec 31 03:57:16 Click on the picture it gets really big. Dec 31 03:57:18 its.. Dec 31 03:57:31 Micronas UAC 3556B Dec 31 03:58:23 yup, saw it as well, didn't know I could click a 2nd time on the pic Dec 31 03:58:43 If you are interseted in other taken apart stuffs there are several other devices in that gallery. Dec 31 03:58:46 don't have any info on this device (its a competitors device :-) ) Dec 31 03:59:11 my audio has a lattice ispmach lc4064v in it Dec 31 04:00:15 actually I have been debugging the audio stuff and I am becoming convinced that everything is working fine and that it has to do with either the initialisation of the device or it is byte order related (although the last option seems not very likely as I managed to get it working once) Dec 31 04:00:19 some other folk are using the imic under ppc linux; so its supposed to work... I just havnt been able to make it do something on a slug. Dec 31 04:00:19 could also be a timing issue Dec 31 04:00:29 it worked once ... Dec 31 04:00:35 Same here. Dec 31 04:00:41 I made mine work exactly once. Dec 31 04:00:55 do you recall when/what sw? Dec 31 04:01:05 um... Dec 31 04:01:14 it was when we first talked about pvrusb2. Dec 31 04:01:22 so maybe 3 months ago? Dec 31 04:01:30 the software would have been .12 Dec 31 04:01:34 I had it working thu before xmas (the same day I picked up the device) at that point I was still on a 1.6.14 kernel Dec 31 04:01:52 actually an openslug snapshot from early dec Dec 31 04:02:04 I had it working once at that day Dec 31 04:02:10 I havnt had a slug powered up since november. Dec 31 04:02:28 then during xmas I upgraded to the head again and ended up at 2.6.15rc5 and it didn't work any more. Dec 31 04:02:34 hmm Dec 31 04:02:42 No idea if I was just lucky to get it running or if it is version dependent Dec 31 04:02:48 didn't try to go back Dec 31 04:02:49 Me neither. Dec 31 04:03:00 the time I made it work I sat there plugging and unplugging for a while Dec 31 04:03:18 I think ultimately it worked after 14 plug/unplug cycles Dec 31 04:04:45 hm, this sounds pretty similar. I also didn't have it working right away, but did a plug/unplug several times Dec 31 04:05:09 also even now sometimes I can control the volume and mute status right away and sometimes not Dec 31 04:05:22 my device has leds to show the volume and mute status Dec 31 04:05:37 sometimes they do not react on alsamixer and sometimes they do Dec 31 04:05:44 Yep Dec 31 04:05:46 no idea what is going on Dec 31 04:05:49 I observed the same thing Dec 31 04:06:13 13 out of 14 times the thing just plain wasnt reconized. Dec 31 04:06:20 seems we have a similar problem Dec 31 04:06:40 dmesg noted "something" being plugged in; but the driver(s) never registered. Dec 31 04:07:09 odd Dec 31 04:07:41 sometimes it half got reconized. Dec 31 04:07:49 like if I pre-loaded the drivers. Dec 31 04:07:52 the plugged. Dec 31 04:08:10 sometimes alsamixer would know about it (even though it wouldnt actually work) Dec 31 04:09:16 same here, actually now alsamixer seems to work about half of the time Dec 31 04:09:37 I got mad at mine; it hasnt been plugged for 3 months. :-) Dec 31 04:10:58 apparently some cmedia-based devices do work, but typically these are noname devices that are hard-to-get Dec 31 04:11:25 of course one can fork out $ 10 or so to get an el-cheapo usb sound device on ebay in the hope that one works Dec 31 04:12:13 Nah, I got enough el-cheepo junk that doesnt do anything already. Dec 31 04:13:27 same here Dec 31 04:18:43 dyoung-away, found this on the web: Dec 31 04:18:43 My experience with the iMic has been very erratic. I've owned three of them and each one worked differently. Some of them seem to be excellent, reliable, quiet devices, others are flakey and noisy. I think they've made some running design changes to them and it's hard to tell what you'll get in advance. At the moment, ALSA doesn't directly support the iMic mixer properly, so it's behavior is also very confusing. Dec 31 04:20:12 the imic does not have digital out, has it? Dec 31 04:20:46 No digital out. Dec 31 04:21:07 Mine seems to work fine on the Mac Mini. Dec 31 04:21:19 so I'll probably eventually just use it there. Dec 31 04:22:27 well, i'm kinda eager to get audio pb on my slug Dec 31 04:22:47 Me too. But not with the imic. :-) Dec 31 04:24:39 well, still not ready to give up on this, but it is a little bit on the backburner Dec 31 06:00:40 dyoung-away, need some advice Dec 31 06:00:55 i'm using pwc and you are listed as the maintainer Dec 31 06:01:08 i saw the latest version was 10.0.9 Dec 31 06:01:17 however we are still at 10.0.9-rc1 Dec 31 06:01:49 decided it would be a nice time to upgrade so I copied pwc_10.0.9-rc1.bb to pwc_10.0.9.bb and also the associated dirs Dec 31 06:02:25 however bb seems to prefer the -rc1 version abo the new version Dec 31 06:02:35 do you have a suggestion how to resolve this? Dec 31 06:03:42 (b.t.w. I also saw that when upgrading to the head, ipkg apparently moved me back in time as my current version is listed as pwc Philips webcam module version 9.0.2-unofficial loaded. Dec 31 06:58:23 <[g2]> dyoung-away great shots of the imic BTW! Dec 31 06:58:27 <[g2]> thx Dec 31 07:03:01 [g2], does the imic work on the loft ???? Dec 31 07:04:26 <[g2]> eFfeM I'd imagine it would as it works on the slug right ? Dec 31 07:04:50 well not for dyoung-away .... Dec 31 07:04:54 <[g2]> I've been meaning to pick one up and try it out Dec 31 07:05:01 and I have a different sound card that also does not work Dec 31 07:05:09 although it works on fc4 Dec 31 07:06:48 <[g2]> Since the iMic is for Apple and thus OSX I'd imagine it's got a decent shot at working Dec 31 07:06:57 <[g2]> I dunno if there spec's are avialble for the chip Dec 31 07:07:19 <[g2]> Are you looking to do audio ? Dec 31 07:07:44 to me there seems to be an issue with some driver on slug, perhaps caused by be or timing Dec 31 07:07:52 yeah, would love to do audio on the slug Dec 31 07:08:03 gotta leave for 10 mins, back later Dec 31 07:08:13 <[g2]> np Dec 31 07:08:39 <[g2]> I'm looking into bringing up LE on the Loft Dec 31 07:08:45 <[g2]> that would isolate the BE issue Dec 31 07:08:59 <[g2]> timing issues will still be there as the Loft runs @ 533 Dec 31 12:40:25 has anyone built ucslugc? It gets some play on the nslu2-linux.org but I'm struggling to figure out what to do... Dec 31 13:10:16 It's pretty lively in here! Dec 31 13:33:23 sgmiller: ucslugc is built automatically on our autobuild machine every 15 minutes Dec 31 13:34:07 http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/buildlogs/autobuild-nudi-last.txt says it's up to date. Dec 31 13:34:23 you just use "make ucslugc-image" with the MasterMakefile Dec 31 13:49:53 whitby, thanks! Jan 01 01:27:24 hi all Jan 01 01:28:08 im just doing a 'make build-openslug' Jan 01 01:28:58 it fails on setpwc-0.9-r0, upstream have deliberately changed the link, replaced it with a notice to upgrade to a newer version, which is 1.1 Jan 01 01:31:09 this is on my genterr/k6, i still cant build a native gcc on my gentoo/amd64 Jan 01 01:34:04 'mv setpwc_0.9.bb setpwc_1.1.bb' might fix it, testing Jan 01 02:04:12 looks like the old setpwc patch will have to be removed to make it work **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 01 02:59:57 2006