**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 01 02:59:57 2006 Jan 01 03:46:55 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=566 Jan 01 03:54:09 How easy is it to get OpenSLUG to mount HFS+ file systems? Jan 01 04:00:19 dont know anything about hfsmyself Jan 01 04:04:09 Hmmmm Jan 01 04:05:18 Thanks. :) Jan 01 04:06:29 there is a hfsutils program or somthing isnt there ? Jan 01 04:07:19 Don't know. Haven't purchased a NSLU2 yet. I want to, but I also don't want to reformat my existing HFS+ external hard drive to ext3 Jan 01 04:08:28 well, if you can access your existing HFS+ filesystem under linux, it should be possbile to do it with openslug, jsut might need to configure something or rebuild a kernel, something like that Jan 01 04:10:14 Okay. Thanks for the info. :) Jan 01 06:04:06 hi and a happy new year. can anyone explain how i can use mysql and apache on the slug? Jan 01 11:28:52 sorry about this: anyone got a pre-compiled monotone/boost? still working on a source compile but it's driving me nuts. Jan 01 11:29:47 looks like monotone ./configure doesn't recognize a boost_1_33_1 installation and then gets some complicated error when forced Jan 01 11:30:19 compilation against boost_1_32 runs out of memory. Jan 01 13:57:39 should I realy be using monotone 0.21? I'm getting a database schemas do not match error on the master makefile. Jan 01 13:58:31 I'm following instructions in Development/MasterMakefile Jan 01 13:59:36 0.24 should be the actual version Jan 01 13:59:46 oh! Jan 01 14:00:00 my new years resolution is to get ucslugc-image to build.... Jan 01 14:00:04 even if it takes all year. Jan 01 14:08:03 caplink811, seems to be grinding along.... Jan 01 14:08:14 this turned out to be very useful: http://www.ipd.uni-karlsruhe.de/~moschny/monotone/ Jan 01 14:09:10 i'm not sure about my statement above, maybe 0.25 works too Jan 01 14:09:44 anything >= 0.24 will work Jan 01 14:09:48 well it seems to be working, no database schema complaints as before. Jan 01 14:09:51 hi i am trying to install mysql on my NSLU2 can somebody tell me why i always get this error: http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=1263 Jan 01 14:09:53 great, thanks. Jan 01 14:29:27 Are there any recomendations concerning getting perl/pico-perl and some very light weight http server running on ucslugc? Jan 01 14:31:42 cherokee was added recently Jan 01 14:34:28 rwhitby, ok... how much trouble should I expect with trying to get perl going? Jan 01 14:39:07 dunno. Jan 01 14:52:24 sgmiller: Not too much. CPAN, that's another story. Jan 01 14:52:31 I just scp'd over my modules dir Jan 01 14:54:10 I think I'm confused... Am I correct in thinking that most of the ipkg's will not work with ucslugc-image??? Jan 01 14:57:27 hi.... by default the man-pages of a package should go to /usr/share/man, right? Jan 01 15:42:34 hi... could anyone tell me how to compile a single .bb file on a cross-compile-env (openslug) ? Jan 01 15:43:01 <[g2]> are you trying to build it from the desktop ? Jan 01 15:43:09 trying the methods described at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile are not successful at all Jan 01 15:43:30 [g2], yep, ubuntu 5.10 Jan 01 15:43:38 <[g2]> what's not successfull at all ? Jan 01 15:43:44 <[g2]> are you dying with monotone ? Jan 01 15:44:07 Alternatively you can do a Jan 01 15:44:07 $ source openslug/setup-env; bb -b openembedded/packages/mynewpackage/mynewpackage_0.1.bb Jan 01 15:44:07 or Jan 01 15:44:07 $ cd openslug; source setup-env; cd -; bb -b openembedded/packages/mynewpackage/mynewpackage_0.1.bb Jan 01 15:44:13 yep monotone Jan 01 15:44:38 <[g2]> is 5.10 Hoary or BB ? Jan 01 15:45:24 BB Jan 01 15:45:28 <[g2]> One of my systems is Kubuntu BB Jan 01 15:45:43 <[g2]> I build monotone and openslug and leslug yesterday Jan 01 15:45:47 first method just closes my xterm Jan 01 15:46:09 building openslug-image runs fine too Jan 01 15:46:24 i just don't know how to compile a single .bb file Jan 01 15:47:35 <[g2]> Ok.. it sounds like monotone is working for you Jan 01 15:47:47 <[g2]> just cd to the openslug directory Jan 01 15:48:12 <[g2]> the run the command Jan 01 15:48:17 <[g2]> . setup-env Jan 01 15:48:24 <[g2]> and bb foo Jan 01 15:48:31 <[g2]> where foo is your foo.bb Jan 01 15:48:34 <[g2]> package Jan 01 15:48:35 <[g2]> clear ? Jan 01 15:48:43 ok... i'll try Jan 01 15:51:10 does not work Jan 01 15:52:15 the package i want to compile is not yet in openembedded/packages, i want to add this one (nut - Network UPS Tools) and test my .bb Jan 01 15:53:59 <[g2]> EvilDevil you need to unlock the bb's it looks at Jan 01 15:54:08 <[g2]> bb unfreeze Jan 01 15:54:31 ok.. Jan 01 15:55:40 i.c. it handles 2909 packages instead of 840 before ... Jan 01 15:57:00 <[g2]> exactly Jan 01 15:57:54 <[g2]> I don't know the mechanism any more to add packages into the list Jan 01 15:58:05 ERROR: Nothing provides nut Jan 01 15:58:20 <[g2]> do you have a nut.bb in the packages list ? Jan 01 15:58:38 <[g2]> meaning ine openembedded/packages/nut/nut.bb Jan 01 15:58:47 <[g2]> meaning ine openembedded/packages/nut/nut-yy.xx.bb Jan 01 15:59:23 i think i found my mistake... it has to be nut-version not nut_version ? Jan 01 16:01:44 no... that's not the prob.... Jan 01 16:01:52 bb -b ../openembedded/packages/nut/nut_2.0.2.bb <- that worked for me Jan 01 16:02:29 <[g2]> you may have a stale cache (psyco) Jan 01 16:02:42 <[g2]> but gl Jan 01 16:05:19 gl ? Jan 01 16:08:49 ucslugc up and running (with 4,256 kB available) thanks folks! Jan 01 16:37:16 <[g2]> sgmiller congrats Jan 01 16:38:36 thanks, this stuff is amazing... I had no idea this was possible. Now have perl, cherokee and libusb working. Jan 01 16:39:10 Has anyone forced cherokee without libssl or used a some sort of tiny perl based httpd? Jan 01 16:44:16 hi all Jan 01 16:44:31 hello Jan 01 16:56:42 I'm trying to get nat working but i keep getting "Support not found for the REJECT target needed by this script." Jan 01 16:56:53 does anyone know what module i'm lacking? Jan 01 17:15:33 Now for a difficult question: Jan 01 17:16:02 I need a hint on what to do next to compile a usb driver I've written and validated on an x86 system Jan 01 17:16:13 I've source setup-env Jan 01 17:16:21 but it's not clear where to head next. Jan 01 17:49:54 sgmiller: there are numerous standalone drivers in OE that you could examine as example. Jan 01 17:50:15 dyoung, thanks.. i Jan 01 17:50:36 i'm slowly learning about oe.. looks like I need to create a bb file to compile??? Jan 01 17:50:50 pwc and spca5xx I wrote using others as examples. Jan 01 17:50:58 those are pretty simple. Jan 01 17:51:21 the writing isn't the problem... I'm clueless on how to actually make the cross-compile work. Jan 01 17:51:48 bitbake sgmiller-usb-driver ? Jan 01 17:52:58 is the recomendation to use bitbake for general development - i.e. just trying it out. Jan 01 17:53:00 ?? Jan 01 17:53:57 for a openslug driver you will certainly save a lot of time. Jan 01 17:55:26 ok, I'm looking at your pwc... I would create a new directory such as ucslugc/openembedded/packages/sgmiller-usb-driver? Jan 01 17:55:36 or am I looking at some intermediate area. Jan 01 17:58:07 looks like maybe /openembedded/packages/sgmiller-usb-driver would be the place?? Jan 01 17:58:34 um, perhaps name it by what it does, rather than who contributed it Jan 01 17:59:23 I was just using dyoung's example name while I pester you guys for a clue.. Jan 01 18:02:25 ok Jan 01 18:02:42 what's it for? Jan 01 18:02:54 (just out of interest) Jan 01 18:03:22 I built a little IO module using a cypress ez-usb chip, turn on and off lights or whatever. Jan 01 18:03:37 I got it running on an x86 system but it would be fun to get it going on a slug. Jan 01 18:04:16 that's why I wanted the light weight httpd etc. Jan 01 18:04:55 I saw this: Jan 01 18:04:56 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/10554 Jan 01 18:05:33 not sure I totally understand it, but do you need another linksys box? Jan 01 18:10:55 sgmiller: For example, yes you would make a similarly named directory and edit up your corresponding bb file in that directory. Jan 01 18:11:37 dyong, thanks.... here goes. Jan 01 18:11:50 And regarding that mail post message; I think Yoe is suggesting that we could use more RAM; which implies hardware other than a NSLU2, unless someone can make workable fatslugs. Jan 01 18:12:16 is there anyone directly responsible for kernel and kernel module building i could contact? Jan 01 18:13:48 i'd like to have a peek at the .config file to see if what i want to get working is possible atm at all Jan 01 18:14:02 CervAnteZ: the problem is not kernel module building - your problem is working out which module you need for iptables Jan 01 18:14:26 defconfig is in OE at packages/linux/nslu2-kernel/2.6.15/defconfig Jan 01 18:14:46 whatever is defined in that file ends up in the unstable feed automatically Jan 01 18:15:34 dyoung, ok... I'm searching for a fatslug howto... any pointers? I can donate a regular box if it's helpful. Jan 01 18:15:55 rwhitby: how can i find out if the CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REJECT option is set at all at the kernel i'm running? Jan 01 18:16:33 I dont think theres a howto. it involves reworking the 8M16 RAM Chips off replacing them with 16M16 or 32M16 parts. Jan 01 18:16:44 CervAnteZ: you'd need to find the defconfig which built that kernel, or rebuild from latest monotone then you know which was used Jan 01 18:17:05 sgmiller: there are pictures of the process in the yahoo groups photo section Jan 01 18:18:04 rwhitby: sorry if i seem a little slow to understand, its quite late here already, but is defconfig a file? Jan 01 18:18:12 CervAnteZ, looking. Jan 01 18:18:12 The current defconfig: # CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REJECT is not set Jan 01 18:18:36 dyoung-away: thx Jan 01 18:19:13 if i need that one as a module, is there anyway to put it on a public wish-list or something like that? Jan 01 18:19:56 CervAnteZ: I can do that now Jan 01 18:20:18 any others while I'm there? Jan 01 18:20:31 rwhitby: you mean putting it on a list? Jan 01 18:20:40 rwhitby: or building them? Jan 01 18:21:02 I mean changing the defconfig for the unstable feed, which will cause the autbuilder to build and upload within the hour Jan 01 18:21:32 <[g2]> dyoung-away did you ever get the iMic working ? Jan 01 18:21:33 rwhitby: ok, thx, as for if i need others as well: i wish i knew Jan 01 18:22:05 CervAnteZ: perhaps you should use the MasterMakefile and build the kernel you need then send us the defconfig patch? Jan 01 18:22:06 If we tunr on CONNTRACK_MARK that would probably make the bandwidth limiting folk h appy Jan 01 18:22:27 rwhitby: i'm running 2.6.12.2 at the moment, i guess i need to upgrade to a more bleeding edge version to use the module that would be built Jan 01 18:22:30 <[g2]> dyoung-away did you know I'll be sending kasox a 128MB Loft for debian compiling ? Jan 01 18:22:44 CervAnteZ: yes, the module built would be 2.5.16-rc7 Jan 01 18:22:51 2.6.15-rc7 that is Jan 01 18:22:58 rwhitby: do you use the flash uploader to change the kernel image? Jan 01 18:23:23 if you're running openslug, then reflash -i from the .img file Jan 01 18:23:32 [g2] the imic isnt working yet. koen also got one and was observing similar beahviour. Jan 01 18:23:58 <[g2]> dyoung-away what's the problem ? Jan 01 18:24:03 rwhitby: doing that i risk making my slug unusable right? Jan 01 18:24:14 [g2]: "It doesnt work" :-) Jan 01 18:24:35 <[g2]> heh... I mean there's a driver right ? Jan 01 18:24:39 CervAnteZ: actually, that's the method which is designed to ensure that your slug stays useable Jan 01 18:24:48 <[g2]> and it doesn't get recognized ? Jan 01 18:25:06 (i.e. it saves your configuration, but updates everything else in flash safely) Jan 01 18:25:08 uses standard usbaudio drivers. the current theory is that there is some timing issue with the way the event is handled. Jan 01 18:25:19 It worked exactly once for me Jan 01 18:25:25 out oof 40 or 50 tries. Jan 01 18:25:26 rwhitby: but i would replace the kernel stored in the internal flash memory, so if that one wont work, i could only save it with redboot, right? Jan 01 18:26:01 what makes you think it wouldn't work? Jan 01 18:26:30 rwhitby: i dont know, if you tell me its nothing to worry about, i wont Jan 01 18:27:05 <[g2]> dyoung-away Ok thx for the update Jan 01 18:27:18 <[g2]> dyoung-away have you tried it on x86 ? Jan 01 18:27:19 [g2] good news about the builder. I'm totally out of hardware and havnt been able to b uild anything. Jan 01 18:28:20 where are the autobuilt kernels stored? Jan 01 18:28:30 [g2] not tried on X86; but effem did some googling on the topic and found that man other folk found it to be flaky too. Jan 01 18:29:00 s/man/many Jan 01 18:29:18 CervAnteZ: if you build from monotone, and only enable modules in the defconfig, then you should be fine Jan 01 18:30:01 okies, where do i get it? Jan 01 18:33:06 <[g2]> sgmiller can you tell me about your cypress kit ? Jan 01 18:37:02 g2, it's a little board I made using a cypress an2131, it's basically the same thing as this: http://www.jged.com/web_pages/usbsimm.html except I added some i2c IO devices Jan 01 18:38:45 <[g2]> are they for sale ? Jan 01 18:39:08 <[g2]> is the I2C 3.3v ? Jan 01 18:40:06 the supply to the i2c io can be jumpered to 3.3 or 5. Jan 01 18:40:49 <[g2]> I've got an upscale NSLU2 like board and it brings out i2c and has USB 2.0 Jan 01 18:40:58 I'm not sure the quality is such that it's sellable. Jan 01 18:41:04 that sounds very cool. Jan 01 18:41:19 <[g2]> thx, it is very cool :) Jan 01 18:41:36 how easy is it to get to the i2c pins....? Jan 01 18:41:51 <[g2]> very easy Jan 01 18:42:08 <[g2]> on a standard 14-pin header Jan 01 18:42:20 <[g2]> SCL SDA Jan 01 18:42:22 looking.... Jan 01 18:42:53 <[g2]> Digilent sells headers that plug right on for around $5 Jan 01 18:44:12 interesting... Jan 01 18:44:34 <[g2]> it runs Debian too Jan 01 18:44:48 I'm trying to figure out where you'd solder to the board. Jan 01 18:45:00 <[g2]> so all the i2cdetect etc.... work Jan 01 18:45:18 <[g2]> there are several i2c devices on the bus and working Jan 01 18:45:30 <[g2]> RTC, Temp/Voltage sensor, EEProm Jan 01 18:46:19 <[g2]> I'd imagine the USB and SDA, SCL, and maybe VCC (3.3) and GND Jan 01 18:46:49 <[g2]> VCC and GND may not be required as if the USB is hooked up you've got power and ground Jan 01 18:46:52 do you have a pointer to a picture of the rework necessary. Jan 01 18:47:17 <[g2]> no rework Jan 01 18:47:25 <[g2]> it's just jumpers Jan 01 18:48:12 do you have a different board? Jan 01 18:48:30 <[g2]> different from the NSLU2 ? Jan 01 18:48:46 <[g2]> I've got my own hw board Jan 01 18:48:59 <[g2]> http://www.giantshoulderinc.com/hw-4533 Jan 01 18:50:56 wow! Jan 01 18:51:37 <[g2]> it's a 533Mhz IXP425 board Jan 01 18:51:50 <[g2]> POE, dual ethernet, minipci etc.. Jan 01 18:52:15 is this something you sell? Jan 01 18:52:16 <[g2]> Look at http://www.giantshoulderinc.com/ab3/case.jpg too Jan 01 18:52:21 <[g2]> yup Jan 01 18:52:29 <[g2]> come pre-loaded with Debian Jan 01 18:52:47 <[g2]> 64MB Jan 01 18:54:50 I'll take this off irc w/ an email. Jan 01 18:55:33 <[g2]> ok great Jan 01 19:06:13 <[g2]> sgmiller if you register you nick with freenode we can private message here Jan 01 19:06:41 <[g2]> you just type "/msg nickserv register foo" Jan 01 19:06:51 <[g2]> where foo is you password for sgmiller Jan 01 19:10:30 sgmiller: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/PinoutOfI2CPort Jan 01 19:15:11 CervAnteZ: autobuilt kernels are in the ipk feed Jan 01 19:15:21 we can't release autobuilt images Jan 01 19:16:15 dyoung, thanks! Jan 01 19:55:48 Is there an index of packages that bitbake looks in, I just tried creating a new directory under packages and it doesn't seem to find it. Jan 01 20:00:06 how many packages does it say its parsing? Jan 01 20:00:27 0765 Jan 01 20:02:35 conf/distro/foo-packages.conf Jan 01 20:02:45 Please update the wiki page you were following to say that Jan 01 20:03:01 me? Jan 01 20:05:17 I'll take that as a yes and try to find the wiki page. Jan 01 20:13:59 thanks on the -packages.conf file. Jan 01 21:34:35 rwhitby: thanks for your guidance so far, i'll look into the process of obtaining the files necessary via monotone tomorrow Jan 01 21:35:15 rwhitby: how is the process of adding the scsi spindown patch to the kernel sources? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 11:55:02 2006 Jan 02 12:21:52 whast makes the limit of the kernelsize (1mb)?`is it the bootloader? Jan 02 14:46:10 <[g2]> rammy yes Redboot and the partitions Jan 02 14:47:01 hmm thats crap Jan 02 14:47:15 its hard to get the stuff i want in <1mb Jan 02 14:48:23 <[g2]> rammy you can load modules the linuxrc Jan 02 14:48:35 <[g2]> or you can hack Redboot and the partition scheme Jan 02 14:48:42 <[g2]> or you can just buy a Loft :) Jan 02 14:49:31 * [g2] is lazy and just reserves 1.5MB for the kernel partitions Jan 02 14:51:14 a loft? Jan 02 14:51:36 did you hack redboot and edited the partitiontable of the flash? Jan 02 14:58:51 rammy: normal redboot allows you to change the partition table. It's the Linksys version which is crippled. Jan 02 15:04:32 hmm :( Jan 02 15:05:19 its okay.. i can boot a running kernel... with 993kb - this really sucks, because i cannot add anything else static into the kernel Jan 02 15:42:24 rammy: there's 6MB for modules and a /linuxrc :-) Jan 02 18:11:34 hello beewoolie Jan 02 18:11:42 hey Jan 02 18:11:55 we're on channel openjtag Jan 02 18:12:02 heh.. Jan 02 18:12:08 ok. i'll try and find it Jan 02 18:12:10 You can get there by joining #openjtag Jan 02 18:12:19 anything else? Jan 02 18:13:35 beewoolie how do i find different channels? Jan 02 18:14:11 You can type OK, so all you have to do is enter a command to join the channel. Jan 02 18:14:19 Enter everything after -> Jan 02 18:14:30 -> /join #openjtag Jan 02 18:14:40 OK Jan 02 18:14:42 oops Jan 02 18:14:43 Then, you should get a tab for that channel. Jan 02 18:14:50 You need to start with the / Jan 02 18:15:28 Any lick? Jan 02 18:15:33 :) Jan 02 18:15:33 luck. Jan 02 18:15:38 tee hee Jan 02 18:15:56 ;) Jan 02 23:58:29 rwhitby, are the nslu2 changes not being passed on to oe? made some changes yesterday but didn't see them back yet Jan 03 00:00:07 the monotone.nslu2-linux.org repository has been quarantined due to some database corruption that happened a while back. Jan 03 00:00:23 ah ok Jan 03 00:00:36 my corruption? Jan 03 00:01:17 I'm not sure (I haven't been involved in it directly, john has been handling it). Jan 03 00:01:34 The timing fits, I think. Jan 03 00:02:11 I saw my dec 22 changes still in there Jan 03 00:02:50 if there is anything I can do to help let me know (if I made the mess, I should also clean it ...) Jan 03 00:03:35 perhaps contact John and see what you can do. Jan 03 00:03:45 will do Jan 03 00:03:51 I truly don't know what needs to be done. Jan 03 00:06:02 i'll drop John an email (haven't seen him online recently) Jan 03 00:06:06 ~seen jbowler Jan 03 00:06:15 jbowler was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 34d 12h 50m 29s ago, saying: 'In the OE view of the world (where org.nslu2-linux.dev isn't in the DB) there is only one head, in the nslu2-linux view of the world there are two... Maybe there is no problem here outside nslu2-linux.'. Jan 03 00:06:32 oops. 34d Jan 03 00:09:18 he's on email Jan 03 00:10:19 yup. will contact **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 03 02:59:59 2006