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Jan 03 07:33:40 <CervAnteZ> hi all
Jan 03 07:34:15 <CervAnteZ> anyone in the mood to walk me through obtaining the kernel source package with monotone?
Jan 03 07:36:52 <eFfeM> CervAnteZ, best thing is to go to the wiki, read the page on mastermakefile, download the master makefile and hit make
Jan 03 07:37:22 <CervAnteZ> ok, i'll try thx
Jan 03 07:41:01 <CervAnteZ> eFfeM: is this supposed to be done on the slug or on any machine?
Jan 03 07:41:14 <[g2]> CervAnteZ a host machine
Jan 03 07:41:20 <CervAnteZ> ok thx
Jan 03 07:42:37 <CervAnteZ> do i need to 'make setup' in order to get the files necessary for rebuilding the kernel?
Jan 03 07:43:14 <eFfeM> CervAnteZ, all the info you need is in the wiki, please read the wiki first
Jan 03 07:43:33 <CervAnteZ> ok, sorry, will do
Jan 03 09:19:46 <stein> Hello, quick question: Is there aa easy way to use unslung packages on an openslug?
Jan 03 09:22:25 <sgmiller> CervAntez, I might be able to help a bit but I'm a total novice.  you need to start by getting this thing called the "Master makefile"
Jan 03 09:22:46 <CervAnteZ> Thx, i got the MasterMakefile, did the make setup-host-debian, got the Intel files and created the md5 files, and did make setup to fetch the files needed. As far as I can see there is no wiki page describing what exactly i need to do next
Jan 03 09:23:33 <sgmiller> If you look through the master makefile you'll see a bunch of targets
Jan 03 09:23:38 <CervAnteZ> sgmiller: i'm running the armeb debian on the slug on top of openslug, what i'm trying to do is create a custom kernel and replace the one in flash
Jan 03 09:24:29 <sgmiller> you are trying to compile the kernel natively (on the slug)??
Jan 03 09:25:24 <CervAnteZ> no, I'm trying to build it on a x86 host machine (which runs debian as well)
Jan 03 09:25:57 <CervAnteZ> as far as i understand it i can replace the kernel on the slug using the upslug2 tool
Jan 03 09:26:13 <sgmiller> did you build the image you are currently using or did you get it pre-compiled from somewhere?
Jan 03 09:26:39 <CervAnteZ> the one on it now is the one that comes with the openslug firmware (2.7)
Jan 03 09:27:45 <sgmiller> I think you want to build a new complete image and then steal the kernel which is produced as an intermediate step
Jan 03 09:28:00 <CervAnteZ> do i?
Jan 03 09:28:05 <CervAnteZ> :-)
Jan 03 09:28:30 <CervAnteZ> i found the target openslug-kernel in the makefile
Jan 03 09:28:33 <sgmiller> Again, I am not an expert, but after you've done it once I suspect you'll be able to use the "bb" (bitbake) to compile the kernel package independently.
Jan 03 09:28:57 <sgmiller> I think you just became the expert, let me know how it goes.
Jan 03 09:29:40 <CervAnteZ> ok, thx for the hints
Jan 03 09:41:53 <CervAnteZ> haha, so much for me being an expert :-) ERROR: Build of virtual/kernel failed
Jan 03 09:49:39 <sgmiller> how far did it get?
Jan 03 09:50:35 <CervAnteZ> not too far, i'm afraid
Jan 03 09:51:04 <CervAnteZ> make openslug-kernel didn't even finish
Jan 03 09:51:31 <sgmiller> you might give "make openslug-image" a try, that worked for me, you'll get the kernel as part of that.
Jan 03 09:51:56 <CervAnteZ> seemingly package libtool-native creation failed
Jan 03 09:52:14 <sgmiller> does the "Monotone" stuff work?
Jan 03 09:52:22 <CervAnteZ> i wish i knew
Jan 03 09:52:35 <CervAnteZ> is there a way to find that out?
Jan 03 09:52:38 <sgmiller> what happens if you type "Monotone --version"
Jan 03 09:53:01 <sgmiller> sorry "monotone --version"
Jan 03 09:53:03 <CervAnteZ> monotone 0.24 (base revision: d59847072bb689e952ab21db7f9fababdb80a19f)
Jan 03 09:53:18 <sgmiller> ok, that good.
Jan 03 09:53:43 <sgmiller> do you have any more on teh libtool error?
Jan 03 09:54:01 <CervAnteZ> NOTE: package libtool-native-1.5.10-r3: task do_fetch: completed
Jan 03 09:54:01 <CervAnteZ> NOTE: package libtool-native-1.5.10-r3: task do_compile: started
Jan 03 09:54:13 <CervAnteZ> NOTE: package libtool-native-1.5.10-r3: task do_compile: failed
Jan 03 09:54:14 <CervAnteZ> ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting
Jan 03 09:54:14 <CervAnteZ> NOTE: package libtool-native-1.5.10: failed
Jan 03 09:55:10 <eFfeM> CervAnteZ, it should also mention the log file where the compiler error message is
Jan 03 09:55:31 <eFfeM> (not that I am knowledgeable on debianslug, i'm on openslug)
Jan 03 09:55:42 <sgmiller> There should be a directory in the format of:
Jan 03 09:55:52 <CervAnteZ> eFfeM: checking the logs right now
Jan 03 09:56:02 <sgmiller> <buildimage>/tmp/work/libtools-XXX/temp
Jan 03 09:56:53 <sgmiller> back in a bit...
Jan 03 09:58:53 <CervAnteZ> eFfeM: can you make something of this:
Jan 03 09:59:02 <CervAnteZ> configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first
Jan 03 09:59:02 <CervAnteZ> make[3]: *** [i686-linux-libtool] Fehler 1
Jan 03 09:59:02 <CervAnteZ> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/Itachi/testgian/src/Slug/openslug/tmp/work/libtool-native-1.5.10-r3/libtool-1.5.10'
Jan 03 09:59:02 <CervAnteZ> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
Jan 03 09:59:48 <eFfeM> normally during the build you fetch the src
Jan 03 10:00:03 <eFfeM> initially from the web, next time from your downloads dir
Jan 03 10:00:07 <eFfeM> they are cached there
Jan 03 10:00:28 <koen|away> CervAnteZ: there's a symlink in your cwd
Jan 03 10:00:37 <koen|away> libtool doesn't like that
Jan 03 10:00:42 <eFfeM> apparently your libtool dir tries to run configure on something already configured
Jan 03 10:00:45 <eFfeM> hi koen|away 
Jan 03 10:00:52 <koen|away> hey eFfeM 
Jan 03 10:01:08 <CervAnteZ> ok, how can i resolve the issue?
Jan 03 10:01:11 <eFfeM> koen|away, I back off, you are way more an expert on this than i am
Jan 03 10:01:25 <koen|away> build in a directory without symlinks
Jan 03 10:02:16 <CervAnteZ> I'm not quite i get it
Jan 03 10:02:30 <CervAnteZ> everything i did so far was running the automated scripts
Jan 03 10:02:42 <eFfeM> CervAnteZ, some place in your path is a symlink
Jan 03 10:02:47 <eFfeM> this can even be /home
Jan 03 10:02:50 <CervAnteZ> ah
Jan 03 10:02:52 <CervAnteZ> i get it
Jan 03 10:02:54 <CervAnteZ> ok
Jan 03 10:03:02 <koen|away> and libtool has a stupid check that breaks on that
Jan 03 10:03:30 <koen|away> something like basename(cwd)==builddir
Jan 03 10:04:33 <koen|away> if that equates to 'false' it will try to put the configure scripts in cwd, which are already there
Jan 03 10:05:01 <koen|away> eFfeM: I hit that bug last week
Jan 03 10:05:13 <CervAnteZ> i moved the Folder someplace else, should be symlink free now
Jan 03 10:05:38 <mgoebl> hi
Jan 03 10:05:51 <mgoebl> can someone have a look at "/etc/modprobe.conf vs. /etc/modules.conf"?
Jan 03 10:05:57 <mgoebl> i filed http://slugbug.nslu2-linux.org/bug.php?op=show&bugid=338&pos=0
Jan 03 10:06:01 * koen|away returns to being away again
Jan 03 10:06:03 <eFfeM> when you mentioned it, I knew I saw it before
Jan 03 10:06:18 <eFfeM> cu koen|away 
Jan 03 10:07:23 <CervAnteZ> nope, didn't work, if i understand this right, within the autogenerated directory structure there are symlinked dirs that cause this prob, right?
Jan 03 10:08:04 <eFfeM> no, the symlinked dirs are not in the autogenerated directories, they are in the path leading to the dir where you have put the master makefile
Jan 03 10:09:24 <CervAnteZ> I'm pretty sure there aren't any symlinks in my current path
Jan 03 10:10:14 <eFfeM> did you do a make clean (or clobber or whatever it is called) after going to a symlink free place
Jan 03 10:10:54 <CervAnteZ> no, but even the path before was symlink free, i just moved a few levels below to make sure
Jan 03 10:13:33 <eFfeM> hm. not too sure about this, but when moving I should definitely clean everything first
Jan 03 10:13:59 <eFfeM> where is the faulty dir now?
Jan 03 10:14:08 <CervAnteZ> did the clobber target too now and restarted make openslug-kernel
Jan 03 10:14:29 <eFfeM> can you give me a pwd of the dir where the master makefile is?
Jan 03 10:15:34 <CervAnteZ> eFfeM: /home/Itachi/Slug
Jan 03 10:16:04 <eFfeM> can you do for me ls -ld /home; ls -ld /home/Itachi; ls -ld /home/Itachi/Slug
Jan 03 10:16:11 <eFfeM> and paste the outptu
Jan 03 10:16:15 <eFfeM> and paste the output
Jan 03 10:16:30 <eFfeM> just to be sure
Jan 03 10:16:42 <CervAnteZ> hmm, it seems to pass libtool-native now....
Jan 03 10:17:02 <eFfeM> ah ok, wat testgian or src a symlink?
Jan 03 10:17:15 <eFfeM> (i'm trying to learn from this as well)
Jan 03 10:17:31 <CervAnteZ> home/testgian was a symlink to home/Itachi/testgian
Jan 03 10:17:55 <eFfeM> ah ok
Jan 03 10:17:55 <CervAnteZ> but i was in the path /home/Itachi/testgian/src/Slug when i called make
Jan 03 10:19:13 <mgoebl> CervAnteZ: your path must be 100% symlink free. every makes this mistake :-(
Jan 03 10:20:44 <CervAnteZ> i'll keep that one in mind, thx
Jan 03 10:21:03 <CervAnteZ> especially since my default src Dir is in a symlink path, or rather was
Jan 03 11:02:30 <neotheone> anyone know if the twonkyvision mediaserver will run on debian also?
Jan 03 11:20:42 <eFfeM> why not just try?
Jan 03 11:21:05 <eFfeM> (but I guess it won't as the nslu variant is be and your debian is probably le)
Jan 03 11:27:45 <CervAnteZ> eFfeM: he might run the be debian port, just like me
Jan 03 11:52:51 <neotheone> CervAnteZ: there is a debian port?
Jan 03 11:53:10 <neotheone> debian slug port or normal debian port?
Jan 03 11:56:06 <CervAnteZ> neotheone: debonaras.org is doing an armeb port
Jan 03 11:56:35 <CervAnteZ> neotheone: as the nslu2-linux page points out correctly, there are two debian ports
Jan 03 12:01:21 <neotheone> CervAnteZ: do you have a link quick pls ?
Jan 03 12:01:43 <neotheone> nslu2-linux is real slow for me
Jan 03 12:02:01 <neotheone> i wonder if its my connection or if the site is visited that much btw.
Jan 03 12:28:48 <philips> neotheone: the site is on some temporary hardware
Jan 03 14:18:19 <rwhitby> CervAnteZ: can you please update the MasterMakefile wiki page with a warning about symlinks in the directory path?
Jan 03 15:33:23 <ibedonc> g2 ?
Jan 03 15:33:30 <[g2]> ibedonc ?
Jan 03 15:33:34 <ibedonc> hi
Jan 03 15:33:45 <[g2]> howdy there partner!
Jan 03 15:34:02 <ibedonc> getting close to be able to get one of your boards
Jan 03 15:34:11 <[g2]> awesome
Jan 03 15:34:25 <[g2]> I've got boards and power supplies
Jan 03 15:34:30 <ibedonc> dam slugs lockup as a firewall
Jan 03 15:34:45 <[g2]> cases are on there way from China
Jan 03 15:34:58 <[g2]> do you know what the lockup is ?
Jan 03 15:35:05 <ibedonc> two differnet ones
Jan 03 15:35:08 <ibedonc> no idea
Jan 03 15:35:18 <[g2]> with the old drivers 1.4 I was seeing a lockup with dhcpclient after about 12 hours
Jan 03 15:35:20 <ibedonc> no response when it happens
Jan 03 15:35:41 <[g2]> from both ethernet ports ?
Jan 03 15:35:47 <ibedonc> only use dhcpclient on usbnet
Jan 03 15:36:09 <ibedonc> not on int chip
Jan 03 15:36:16 <[g2]> ok
Jan 03 15:36:37 <[g2]> which IAL/CSR are you using ?
Jan 03 15:36:44 <ibedonc> does not matter if openslug sw or opendebian
Jan 03 15:37:10 <ibedonc> the one with latest openslug
Jan 03 15:37:15 <[g2]> ok
Jan 03 15:37:51 <ibedonc> does not happen as a single port / app server
Jan 03 15:37:52 <[g2]> I"ve just booted 2.6.15 today,  rwhitby and check in some stuff and I'm starting to migrate to the very latest
Jan 03 15:38:05 <ibedonc> good
Jan 03 15:38:41 <[g2]> with my old setup I was able to send 4-8GB through the box and billions of packets
Jan 03 15:38:50 <ibedonc> these issues should not happen with your board?
Jan 03 15:39:22 <[g2]> I haven't done exhaustive testing other than what I just described
Jan 03 15:39:34 <[g2]> the difference is you've go 2 serial ports and JTAG
Jan 03 15:39:52 <[g2]> when it was locking up it was only 1 port or one task
Jan 03 15:39:53 <ibedonc> also , I forget if you have both nic's available ?
Jan 03 15:40:00 <[g2]> Oh yeah
Jan 03 15:40:05 <ibedonc> good
Jan 03 15:40:15 <[g2]> I can to line-rate bridging with 60% CPU left
Jan 03 15:40:28 <[g2]> big packets (SCP)
Jan 03 15:40:48 <[g2]> it's got the 533Mhz remember
Jan 03 15:40:52 <ibedonc> yes
Jan 03 15:41:32 <ibedonc> so after the 11th I can get one ( I get paid)  :)
Jan 03 15:41:53 <[g2]> cool
Jan 03 15:42:11 <[g2]> I may have some cases by then
Jan 03 15:42:30 <[g2]> I'll have at least a few more but some ppl have already oredered
Jan 03 15:42:37 <[g2]> or want more
Jan 03 15:42:58 <ibedonc> good
Jan 03 15:43:41 <ibedonc> I have one slug as a saned / dhcp server , and it is working ok 
Jan 03 15:43:49 <ibedonc> not locking up
Jan 03 15:44:01 <ibedonc> the other is router 
Jan 03 15:44:19 <ibedonc> that is a problem
Jan 03 15:48:18 <[g2]> I've got many Lofts
Jan 03 15:48:33 <[g2]> I'm setting one up to run as the a debain buildd
Jan 03 15:49:27 <[g2]> bbiab dinner calls
Jan 03 16:23:37 <CervAnteZ> well, seems like make openslug-kernel went through successfully, i did forget to make one change to the kernel config though(doh!) is there an easy way to change it and rebuild the kernel only?
Jan 03 16:25:22 <rwhitby> rm -rf tmp/{work,stamps}/nslu2-kernel*
Jan 03 16:25:43 <rwhitby> openslug/tmp is you're at the top-level
Jan 03 16:26:20 <CervAnteZ> okies thx
Jan 03 16:26:44 <CervAnteZ> is this where the final kernel image will be too?
Jan 03 16:35:01 <rwhitby> final kernel image is in tmp/deploy/images
Jan 03 16:35:20 <rwhitby> CervAnteZ: I didn't see your update to the wiki regarding symlinks ...
Jan 03 16:36:03 <CervAnteZ> rwhitby: i'm sorry?
Jan 03 16:36:20 <CervAnteZ> rwhitby: was i supposed to make one?
Jan 03 16:37:11 <rwhitby> Jan 03 14:18:19 <rwhitby> CervAnteZ: can you please update the MasterMakefile wiki page with a warning about symlinks in the directory path?
Jan 03 16:37:37 <rwhitby> the price of asking questions here is to update the wiki when you get answers
Jan 03 16:37:50 <CervAnteZ> oops, seems like i didn't see that one
Jan 03 16:37:52 <CervAnteZ> sorry
Jan 03 16:38:03 <CervAnteZ> i'll do my best
Jan 03 16:39:28 <rwhitby> thanks
Jan 03 16:44:22 <CervAnteZ> rwhitby: i added the note, not sure if its alright though, my first time doing it...
Jan 03 16:53:35 <rwhitby> CervAnteZ: that's fine - thanks.
Jan 03 16:54:12 <rwhitby> please continue to fix things in the wiki as we assist you through the process - we rely on those following the meagre instructions to fix them and flesh them out
Jan 03 16:54:24 <CervAnteZ> ok, will do
Jan 03 18:20:05 <CervAnteZ> is there a way to extract a kernel image from a complete openslug image?
Jan 03 18:23:42 <rwhitby> slugtool
Jan 03 18:23:51 <CervAnteZ> ok
Jan 03 18:24:45 <CervAnteZ> when i upload a kernel image to the slug, do i have to rename it or do something else to it first?
Jan 03 18:27:03 <rwhitby> depends how it was built
Jan 03 18:27:29 <rwhitby> it's a BE image, then it needs assembly code prepended to set the machine id correctly
Jan 03 18:27:45 <rwhitby> if it's an LE image, then it also needs byteswapping
Jan 03 18:27:53 <CervAnteZ> ah, thats what messed things up
Jan 03 18:28:00 <rwhitby> the nslu2-linux builds do those things automatically
Jan 03 18:28:09 <CervAnteZ> oh
Jan 03 18:28:17 <CervAnteZ> i did a make openslug-image
Jan 03 18:28:26 <rwhitby> the image in tmp/deploy/images are already modified
Jan 03 18:28:39 <CervAnteZ> i uploaded it using upslug2, but as it seems it didn't work
Jan 03 18:29:00 <rwhitby> do you have serial?
Jan 03 18:29:05 <CervAnteZ> nope
Jan 03 18:29:22 <CervAnteZ> but i only uploaded the kernel, so redboot is still intact
Jan 03 18:29:24 <rwhitby> you're gonna have some fun then :-)
Jan 03 18:29:38 <rwhitby> did you upload a new rootfs with matching ixp modules?
Jan 03 18:29:52 <CervAnteZ> no....
Jan 03 18:30:12 <rwhitby> define "didn't work" ..
Jan 03 18:30:16 <CervAnteZ> but i installed all modules on the harddrive..
Jan 03 18:30:35 <CervAnteZ> after reboot/reset only red led flashing....
Jan 03 18:30:56 <rwhitby> oh, that means the kernel didn't even boot
Jan 03 18:31:23 <CervAnteZ> is there a log file accessible by redboot?
Jan 03 18:31:30 <rwhitby> is this a custom kernel?
Jan 03 18:31:33 <rwhitby> no
Jan 03 18:32:04 <rwhitby> or a stock openslug build from monotone head ?
Jan 03 18:32:24 <CervAnteZ> its a 2.6.15 and i used to have 2.6.12.2 on it before(came with openslug 2.7 beta image)
Jan 03 18:33:11 <CervAnteZ> its the one one gets when doing make openslug-kernel, didn't use any other sources
Jan 03 18:33:23 <rwhitby> yes, but is it built from monotone head, or have you modified the defconfig or something?
Jan 03 18:33:37 <rwhitby> did you rebuild the ixp modules to match the new kernel?
Jan 03 18:34:25 <CervAnteZ> i modified defconfig by toggling one unset option to module, which was built successfully
Jan 03 18:34:41 <rwhitby> (they don't rebuild automatically - that should be noted on the wiki too)
Jan 03 18:34:43 <CervAnteZ> i took the modules in tmp/deploy/ipkg and installed them
Jan 03 18:35:04 <rwhitby> if they didn't rebuild, then they are built for the old 2.6.12.2 kernel and will not load
Jan 03 18:35:20 <rwhitby> but that shouldn't stop the kernel at least changing the led to flashing amber
Jan 03 18:35:35 <CervAnteZ> packages all had the 2.6.15 in their name, so i guess it worked
Jan 03 18:36:02 <rwhitby> ok, so maybe it's just a bad flash or something?
Jan 03 18:36:10 <CervAnteZ> might be flashing amber too, red and amber look quite similar from my point of view...
Jan 03 18:38:28 <CervAnteZ> what would flashing amber mean?
Jan 03 18:38:34 <CervAnteZ> missing modules?
Jan 03 18:42:35 <CervAnteZ> ok, i'm trying to go back to the old kernel now
Jan 03 18:46:26 <CervAnteZ> well, i guess constant amber is not a good sign either...
Jan 03 21:02:21 <EvilDevil_> hi... i've just set up my nslu2 for opendebianslug... according to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/OpenDebianSlug
Jan 03 21:02:40 <EvilDevil_> i'm now stuck between step 17 and 18
Jan 03 21:04:11 <EvilDevil_> it's booting for about 5 minutes now... accessing the harddrive all the time and the ready led blinking amber
Jan 03 21:04:32 <EvilDevil_> it's not reacting on ping's
Jan 03 21:05:21 <EvilDevil_> hmm.. it's over... ping is working.. ssh too
Jan 03 21:05:34 <EvilDevil_> but it doesn't boot from harddrive :-(
Jan 03 21:06:15 <EvilDevil_> disk1 led isn't active
Jan 03 21:06:31 <EvilDevil_> but i can mount it 
Jan 03 21:06:50 <EvilDevil_> *strange*
Jan 03 21:27:16 <CervAnteZ> EvilDevil: check if there is a hidden .recover file on your hard disk, if it exists delete it and manually do a fsck, then reboot and everything should be back to normal
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