**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 08 02:59:56 2006 Jan 08 07:24:20 Hello everybody. Can somebody running php-thttp and NFS please check the amout of RAM needed for these 2 ? I want to install the system on a USB-stick, so it will not have swap-space. And 32 MB may be a bit tight for php-thttp. thx. Jan 08 08:22:52 rwhitby, I was backreading the log and saw this Q of yours: Jan 08 08:22:54 Jan 06 22:12:40 anyone here know udev rules syntax? Jan 08 08:23:21 is your udev problem solved (I did dig into this so if needed I can provide info) Jan 08 08:23:31 found out that the man page was quite helpful Jan 08 08:26:55 this might also help although it is for gentoo: http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/UDEV_Overview Jan 08 08:28:59 rwhitby, joeyh, there is already a page on netconsole in the wiki: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/SettingUpNetConsoleForRemoteSystemLogging Jan 08 08:29:13 I've used netconsole with success on several occasions Jan 08 08:29:43 only issue is that on other systems the pc side command is nc instead of nc6 Jan 08 08:29:56 (or netcat) Jan 08 08:30:52 (thinking of it I'll just add that snippet of info to the wiki) Jan 08 09:14:17 NAiL: ping? Jan 08 09:18:25 Hi. I've been here the other day, talking to [g2] about my problems running Gentoo on my slug, using OpenSlug for initial booting. I was advised to have a look at /boot/disk and see if I can locate the problem. I have now investigated a bit, but I'm still stuck. A detailed description is at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3015033.html#3015033 and I would appreciate any help. Jan 08 09:38:09 <[g2]> Scytale you might want search on the wiki for .recovery or google a litte for that Jan 08 09:38:31 <[g2]> I've got two presentations to do next week and I'm quite busy with those Jan 08 09:39:11 <[g2]> sorry I can help Jan 08 09:39:18 No problem, if you don't have time, that's fine. I don't want to bug you. Jan 08 09:40:23 <[g2]> jbowler-away could answer you question outright Jan 08 09:40:51 Okay, I'll try to catch him as soon as he's not -away anymore :) Jan 08 10:24:12 rwhitby: even with the link it doesn't seem to work, complains "/dev/rtc does not have interrupt functions. Waiting in loop for time from /dev/rtc to change" and hangs for more than a minute Jan 08 10:32:03 got a little problem installing man: groff does not exist in the default-feed for openslug 2.7 beta. Any ideas where i can get it ? Jan 08 10:33:54 pumpkin0, it is in the packages dir, you can compile your own Jan 08 10:34:26 did this myself in the past, but for some reason did not add it to the packages list Jan 08 10:34:46 on my system things like man are working Jan 08 10:35:00 unfortunately no idea what else I had to do or install for this Jan 08 10:35:29 Sorry, i'm new to the nslu2. Can you give me an additional hint ? i have the masterfile and launched make setup. And now ... ? Jan 08 10:36:15 cd openslug Jan 08 10:36:19 . setup-env Jan 08 10:36:31 (don't forget the dot) Jan 08 10:36:58 cd openembedded/packages/groff Jan 08 10:37:11 bb -b groff_1.19.2.bb Jan 08 10:37:26 then your pkg iwll be in tmp/deploy/ipk Jan 08 10:37:58 hmmm.. no luck: pumpkin@soak:~/slug/openslug$ . setup-env environment: TOPDIR not defined. Jan 08 10:39:25 this one is in conf/topdir.conf but I feel that make setup should have added that one Jan 08 10:50:26 argh, it's my fault. i moved the whole master-file-dir... from one PC to another. Moved it back, works now. THX Jan 08 10:54:11 nope, new problem: The configure fails with "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". Which compiler do i need ? Jan 08 11:10:50 pumpkin0, it seems you messed up things one way or another. bb will invoke the right compiler, but apparently it cannot write to your dir Jan 08 11:11:29 it might be a good plan to restart from scratch (fetch master makefile); you can keep your downloads file Jan 08 11:15:01 is there a copyright/licence statement somewhere for openslug-init? Jan 08 11:21:25 restart from 0 ? OK, will try that later. bye and thx Jan 08 12:34:37 pumpkin0 should make sure he doesn't have any symlinks in the build directory tree Jan 08 12:35:17 joeyh: can you point out the rtc failure to dwery in #debonaras ? Jan 08 13:28:33 joeyh: slugos-init (renamed from openslug-init, cause it is used for DebianSlug and UcSlugC too) is GPL - the license statement is in the OpenEmbedded .bb file. Jan 08 13:29:47 pumpkin0: do you have any symlinks in the directory path from / to your build directory? You cannot have symlinks with OE builds. Jan 08 13:29:59 rwhitby: sure, I wasn't sure if it was perhaps due to the LE kernel though Jan 08 13:30:47 rwhitby: no symlinks at all. i have restarted from scratch, but the download will take some time. Slow internet here. Jan 08 13:30:53 joeyh: yes, the latest SlugOS (both BE and LE) nslu2 kernel has dwery's latest RTC driver in it, and we're working through the /dev/rtc issues with that driver. Jan 08 13:31:18 where is the source for slugos-init? Jan 08 13:31:20 (i.e. how to get udev to do the right thing, in time for hwclock startup) Jan 08 13:31:29 joeyh: in the OpenEmbedded monotone repository Jan 08 13:31:57 I have that checked out via the Makefile and I don't see it, is it in a different branch? Jan 08 13:32:29 if you've got it checked out via the nslu2-linux Master Makefile, then it should be in the openembedded/packages/slugos-init directory. Jan 08 13:32:50 if you don't have the latest head, then it's in openembedded/packages/openslug-init/ Jan 08 13:33:08 you might need to do a "make setup-openembedded" to get that dir Jan 08 13:33:21 that's what I did, and it should be up-to-date Jan 08 13:33:37 do you have an openembedded directory there? Jan 08 13:33:41 yes Jan 08 13:33:55 it contains openslug-init Jan 08 13:34:17 ok, do a "make update" and you'll get the latest from monotone Jan 08 13:35:07 BTW, the LICENSE = "GPL" is not a sifficient statement of copyright and licnse to put it in debian, imho Jan 08 13:35:16 but the files under openslug-init haven't changed (apart from s/openslug/slugos/ renaming) Jan 08 13:35:36 joeyh: we can easily have the author put the correct boilerplate in there. Jan 08 13:35:47 that would be good Jan 08 13:36:09 BTW, the leds subsystem is going to change soonish too, to use the new proposed leds subsystem. Jan 08 13:37:01 but we might as well get this one working now - we can keep the userland interface the same. Jan 08 13:37:18 let me see which of our core team developers wrote those files ... Jan 08 13:37:43 jbowler wrote reflash and friends ... Jan 08 13:37:59 (and turnup) Jan 08 13:38:34 sorry, can you remind me again: what do i have to do before ". setup-env" ? Jan 08 13:38:53 pumpkin0: go to the top-level and type "make -image" Jan 08 13:39:04 e.g. make openslug-image Jan 08 13:39:08 thx Jan 08 13:39:37 hmm, even after make update I don't get the new directory name Jan 08 13:40:39 make update in the top-level where the master makefile is? Jan 08 13:40:47 monotone: already up to date at cf145de9ed953c4d61e7fd70c5da422c4f54e737 Jan 08 13:40:48 yes Jan 08 13:41:17 what does "cd openembedded ; monotone head" say? Jan 08 13:41:50 monotone: branch 'org.nslu2-linux.dev' is currently merged: Jan 08 13:41:51 cf145de9ed953c4d61e7fd70c5da422c4f54e737 rwhitby@nslu2-linux.org 2006-01-04T13:10:46 Jan 08 13:41:56 8ecfb38316e9a965b1e77f585e2cc790f1c35b2f rpurdie@openembedded.org 2006-01-08T14:56:12 Jan 08 13:42:23 is there an MT directory inside the openembedded directory? Jan 08 13:43:02 no Jan 08 13:43:03 the branch should be org.openembedded.dev inside the openembedded directory (we have a layered dir structure from two different branches) Jan 08 13:43:24 hmm, I don't have a org.openembedded.dev subdir in there Jan 08 13:43:39 not a subdir, a monotone branch. Jan 08 13:43:52 (very different from an svn branch) Jan 08 13:44:19 is there a /home/slug/openembedded/.configured flag file present? Jan 08 13:45:17 if not, you need to run "make setup" at the top-level (in particular "make setup-openembedded"). Jan 08 13:45:39 if so, then you need to blow away the openembedded dir and re-run make setup-openembedded Jan 08 13:45:51 I'm not checking it out in /home/slug, I'm using my regular home directory Jan 08 13:46:20 no matter, just replace /home/slug with wherever you put the master makefile and ran "make setup" Jan 08 13:46:54 (we recommend /home/slug, to make it easier to reference where people are when debugging problems like this) Jan 08 13:46:55 nope, don't see a ..configured file here Jan 08 13:47:17 did you run "make setup" originally? Jan 08 13:47:38 I ran make setup-openenbedded Jan 08 13:48:11 joeyh: I gotta get ready for work now. I'll check back in about 15 minutes, and will then need to leave. Jan 08 13:48:27 anyone else here will be able to help with openembedded build dir setup. Jan 08 13:48:49 anyone else around, who is familiar with the master makefile? Jan 08 13:49:52 oh you meant MT?.configured I think Jan 08 13:49:54 s/?// Jan 08 13:49:55 joeyh meant: oh you meant MT.configured I think Jan 08 13:50:45 ok, I did a clean checkout in another directory and it worked Jan 08 13:50:58 possibly my earlier trying to get it checked out by hand with monotone busted the makefile Jan 08 14:00:37 rwhitby: are you sure i need the complet openslug-image for compiling groff ? the download alone will take ages. Jan 08 14:06:01 pumpkin0: no, but the start of openslug-image will set up the openslug directory for you Jan 08 14:06:12 then you can go in a source setup-env and run bitbake manuallt Jan 08 14:06:41 joeyh: glad you got it sorted out. I'm outta here. Jan 08 14:09:50 rwhitby: aborted it, didn't work ... same error again. Jan 08 14:21:28 pumpkin0, do you still have that configure error Jan 08 14:25:06 did you remove all dirs when starting from scratch? I suspect that when you were shuffling dirs you made a dir r/o Jan 08 14:34:32 anyone happen to know how I can set the level of errors logged by the kernel? Jan 08 14:39:15 eFfeM-away: yes, same error. i just tried "chmod +xrw -R" => same thing. Jan 08 14:41:30 hmm very odd Jan 08 14:41:53 you did do a make openslug-image ? Jan 08 14:42:34 started it, let it run for one hour and aborted. No error reported. My internet is slow and i paid per MB, so ... Jan 08 14:44:27 pumpkin0, don't know exactly what you did or what happened, but what you say does not sound good. Jan 08 14:44:58 What about this JIT-thing from "http://psyco.sf.net" ? Jan 08 14:45:03 when you do a make openslug-image the first thing that is done is building the cross compiler and libs Jan 08 14:45:27 if you stopped before that was completed you'll definitely have a problem Jan 08 14:46:54 it was well into libc, and i have a executable called armeb-linux-gcc. Jan 08 14:47:53 hmm i think you should have let it do libc Jan 08 14:47:59 but let me help you out, one sec Jan 08 14:49:34 pumpkin0, you can find groff and groff-doc at: http://84.87.135.248/pumpkin0/ Jan 08 14:49:41 it is 1.5 Mb and 0.5 Mb Jan 08 14:51:39 Thx a lot. Nevertheless i will let make openslug-image run overnight. i want to be able to recompile stuff myself, the goal is scsi-idle. Sometimes... Jan 08 14:56:55 during make openslug-image: NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1: task do_patch: started NOTE: Applying patch 'arm-audit.patch' ERROR: function do_patchcmd failed Jan 08 14:57:19 when you restarted? Jan 08 14:57:44 probably clean out tmp/work and tmp/stamps and run make again Jan 08 14:57:51 after 5 min. It downloaded a lot from a cvs, started patching ... Jan 08 14:58:16 it will start from scratch but you do not need to download again as all the downloaded files are cached in your downloads directory Jan 08 14:58:42 (unless maybe you have interrupted a download, in that case I have no idea what would happen) Jan 08 14:59:10 Let's cross fingers. Jan 08 15:00:00 starts with quilt-native Jan 08 15:00:13 automake-native ... Jan 08 15:03:39 pumpkin0, groff should also come on the unstable feed, it is in the pacakges list Jan 08 15:03:58 calling it a day for now Jan 08 15:04:02 good luck Jan 08 15:04:54 thx & bye Jan 08 15:26:04 i thing package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1 is broken. The patching does not work, even if i redownload it or try it by hand. Anyway, i'm offline now. bye Jan 08 18:59:28 question about USB sub system Jan 08 19:01:30 what is the best way to output sound, alsa or direct to dsp file Jan 08 22:59:55 Scytale: look at the commands in the swivel exec, you can put an "exec >>/boot.log 2>&1; set -x" at the head of those to see how far it gets. If the /boot.log isn't written on the gentoo root then you are missing the shell. Jan 08 23:00:16 Or maybe the chroot Jan 08 23:01:04 You can also do it all by hand from the flash file system IIRC (i.e. I think you can do a pivot_root from a dropbear ssh, though the system won't be very happy afterward). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 09 02:59:57 2006