**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 09 02:59:57 2006 Jan 09 05:44:59 where can I join end-user discussion? Jan 09 05:56:31 hi i did this to create my openslug crossdevelopment system: download Makefile, make update, make openslug-image but after some seconds i always get this error: Jan 09 05:56:45 File "/home/kami/slug/openslug/bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/wget.py", line 66, in md5_sum Jan 09 05:56:45 return parm['md5sum'] Jan 09 05:56:46 KeyError: 'md5sum' Jan 09 05:56:47 make[1]: *** [image] Fehler 1 Jan 09 06:12:56 jbowler-zzz (or jbowler): where exactly do you mean? the "exec" after "if pivot_root ..."? Well, I've already added "echo pivoted root>>/boot.log" after the "then", but this line doesn't get written. Could it be that it doesn't find the "echo" command, since on busybox echo seems to be no shell builtin Jan 09 06:18:48 Hi Jan 09 06:19:28 D'oh! Fixed it. Gentoo has chroot at /usr/bin, not /usr/sbin. Shame on me... Jan 09 06:20:06 can someone pls help me with a fresh setup of the build env? Jan 09 06:21:07 I have all the required software (including monotone 0.23) installed Jan 09 06:21:40 after downloading the MasterMakefile I did make setup and git Jan 09 06:21:48 s/git/got/ Jan 09 06:21:49 pTweety meant: after downloading the MasterMakefile I did make setup and got Jan 09 06:22:16 monotone: misuse: database schemas do not match: wanted 1509fd75019aebef5ac3da3a5edf1312393b70e9, got bd86f9a90b5d552f0be1fa9aee847ea0f317778b. try migrating database Jan 09 06:22:26 and some more of theese lines Jan 09 06:26:27 can I use md+raid1 with openslug 2.7 beta Jan 09 09:19:55 hi can anyone help me i am trying to compile php for openslug i started this command : bb php Jan 09 09:20:05 checking for iconv... no Jan 09 09:20:05 checking for libiconv... no Jan 09 09:20:05 configure: error: iconv not found, in order to build xmlrpc you need the iconv library Jan 09 09:20:23 and i always get this error : checking for iconv... no Jan 09 09:20:55 You need the iconv library Jan 09 09:21:03 Or disable xmlrpc in your build Jan 09 09:21:20 okay i did bb libiconv Jan 09 09:21:29 and it compile libiconv Jan 09 09:21:38 but php doesnt find it? Jan 09 09:22:23 then tell php where you installed it. I guess you can do that by passing --with-iconv=/path/to/iconv to configure Jan 09 09:22:35 I never used bb, so please don't ask me about details Jan 09 09:22:56 Can anybody tell me why my slug has eth0 and eth1? What's the latter? Jan 09 09:22:58 yes but this is all on my crossdevelopment system and ther i only compiled it Jan 09 09:47:46 Hello. Is it possible to patch the scsi-idle-modification into the 2.7 beta source-tar-ball ? Jan 09 09:57:12 Scytale: the IXP42x cpu has two network interfaces. Only one of them is used in the slug. Jan 09 09:57:59 NAiL: I see. Thanks. Jan 09 09:58:14 np Jan 09 10:44:31 Hey jbowler, I don't know if you've read what I've written... I've fixed the problem of not being able to boot Gentoo Jan 09 10:46:41 Gentoo has chroot under /usr/bin/chroot, while swivel() looks for it at /usr/sbin/chroot... Jan 09 10:47:08 How do I set my MAC address? Jan 09 11:03:19 Sorry for bugging, found it. Jan 09 11:14:35 [g2], Have you played with the latest versions of APEX on the slug. I'm considering installing it to save that precious 10seconds on bootup for my bot. Jan 09 11:18:59 [g2], jbowler, NAiL: thanks for your help; my slug is now happily (?) running Gentoo, booting from OpenSlug. Thanks to everyone from the OpenSlug project, you did a great job. Jan 09 11:39:30 Anybody recently experimented with the Apex bootloader on the slug? Jan 09 11:50:04 Scytale: the MAC address should be set automatically now. Jan 09 11:50:22 Check the log, the kernel reads it from the flash when the flash is probed. Jan 09 11:50:26 jbowler: Not if I'm using Gentoo, right? Jan 09 11:50:51 It's in the kernel and the ixp400 driver, so it should work everywhere. Jan 09 11:51:06 (sorry, it's in the eth driver - ixp400-eth). Jan 09 11:52:26 I guess the chroot could be changed to PATH=./sbin:./usr/sbin:./bin:./usr/bin chroot Jan 09 11:52:51 The PATH would have to be reset afterward Jan 09 11:53:02 dmesg says nothing about MACs. I've written a quick preup() function that sets the address now, works like a charm Jan 09 11:53:24 Yes, that'd be a possiblity. However, creating a symlink doesn't hurt either. Jan 09 11:56:56 You have an older kernel I think, before OpenSlug 3.0 2005-11-29T09:25:50 Jan 09 11:58:47 slug ~ # uname -srv Jan 09 11:58:47 Linux 2.6.12.2 #1 Tue Sep 27 20:21:18 CDT 2005 Jan 09 12:24:37 Anyone trying to build openslug from monotone, the build problems are now fixed 93b8d4a095a60dfe2b4b6e82f4ce68721a1d4f11 has the fix without the recent OE changes, the head has both. Jan 09 12:34:08 jbowler, are we getting closer to a openslug release? I would try it but I'd rather stick with source release as monotone gave me too many headaches in the past. Jan 09 12:40:41 How can i get php-thttpd from unslug under openslug ? Jan 09 12:47:41 It will be a slugos release I think. I believe we're close. Jan 09 12:50:54 jbowler, yep. sorry slugos. I forgot the name change thing. Good to hear. I can't wait to stress test it. Let me know if you want me to test a tarball. Jan 09 13:14:27 slugos because the source tarball will allow more than just openslug to be built - openslug is still there though. Jan 09 13:22:17 jbowler, I see. I'll have to read up when the time comes as I'm a bit rusty. My robotic competition is coming in April so hopefully It will be out before then. Jan 09 13:27:36 the source release will be slugos, and there will be OpenSlug and DebianSlug binary releases built from that. Jan 09 13:29:44 ok. slugos it will be then as I might need to customize a little. Jan 09 13:30:18 you should add a voodooslug.conf ... Jan 09 13:31:33 I know but I barely have the time to work on the actual robot code. Jan 09 13:32:23 I just need a stripped down OS with the possibility to add a few specialty apps. Jan 09 13:35:16 I'll need to radically optimize the bootup times though by removing as much junk as possible. a robot that takes 1-2 minutes to start is not very cool/practical. :) Jan 09 14:30:10 #nslu2-general Jan 09 14:42:01 <[g2]> Scytale congrats Jan 09 15:15:05 Yes, that (gentoo) is more interesting to me than Debian Jan 09 20:42:49 <[g2]> jbowler you're interested in gentoo on the Loft ? Jan 09 20:43:04 <[g2]> Loft/Slug/... Jan 09 21:04:38 wouldn't gentoo on a slug take like.. forever? Jan 09 21:05:16 I know compiling a program that took like... 30 seconds on a p3 took 3 days on the slug Jan 09 21:06:07 bootstrapping the slug would take a couple of weeks ;) Jan 09 21:06:47 nah Jan 09 21:06:50 a week max Jan 09 21:07:00 <[g2]> daniel_bergamini quite possible, there's a huge difference between a 512K cache and 32K, not to mention memory footprint, fpu, and disk access Jan 09 21:07:20 <[g2]> just going to disk is 1000 X slower Jan 09 21:07:31 <[g2]> if you start swapping it's "lights out" Jan 09 21:07:49 gcc and glibc are compiled during a bootstrap... Those take a good while on a "decent" box Jan 09 21:07:55 yeap I hear that Jan 09 21:08:48 anyway, gentoo would be kinda nice, but keeping it up to date will probably be a real pita Jan 09 21:09:21 a -rX change on glibc, and the slug will be chugging along for a day or two... Jan 09 21:09:44 <[g2]> NAiL now that's a _real_ reason to get a Loft :) Jan 09 21:09:48 hehe Jan 09 21:09:55 <[g2]> 533 64MB Jan 09 21:09:56 [g2] explain? Jan 09 21:09:59 oh that Jan 09 21:10:18 well, even so, I think the ds101 could keep up a lot better than the slug ;) Jan 09 21:10:30 <[g2]> I'll have to have the Gentoo version with 128/256MB :) Jan 09 21:10:32 twice the ram, and a lot faster disk access Jan 09 21:10:33 the dual ethernet slug like development board? Jan 09 21:10:44 <[g2]> daniel_bergamini yeah Jan 09 21:11:00 <[g2]> POE, minipci's, JTAG, serail, .... Jan 09 21:11:07 I'll need to win the lottery first :P Jan 09 21:11:56 atm, I'm living off of $605/mo Jan 09 21:13:07 daniel_bergamini: btw, re pl2303... is that under debonaras? Jan 09 21:13:25 yeah NAiL Jan 09 21:13:31 why you got some love for me? Jan 09 21:13:39 haha Jan 09 21:13:42 depends Jan 09 21:13:47 what kernel are you running? Jan 09 21:14:01 Linux slug 2.6.12.2 #1 Tue Sep 27 20:21:18 CDT 2005 armv5teb GNU/Linux Jan 09 21:14:19 bootstrapped off of OpenSlug 2.7-beta? Jan 09 21:14:39 um could be Jan 09 21:15:35 I'm not close to my dev box right now, but the module you need is quite probably available as an ipkg from the original openslug feed Jan 09 21:15:46 it is it is Jan 09 21:15:58 ie. look in /initrd/etc/ipkg/*.conf where you can find the url Jan 09 21:16:23 but I didn't have the effort to go downstairs, shut down the slug, power on without the disk, ipkg, plug in the disk, copy it over Jan 09 21:16:31 ah Jan 09 21:16:42 try using "ar" to extract the bugger Jan 09 21:17:03 might be combined with gzip, can't remember Jan 09 21:17:14 Hey daniel Jan 09 21:17:20 heh Jan 09 21:17:30 ibedonc, my nemesis Jan 09 21:17:40 hmm Jan 09 21:17:45 g2 Jan 09 21:17:50 heh Jan 09 21:17:52 getting close Jan 09 21:18:17 what was your url to your loft ? Jan 09 21:18:35 boy that sounds personal Jan 09 21:18:43 <[g2]> ibedonc hey Jan 09 21:19:01 :) Jan 09 21:19:01 <[g2]> http://www.giantshoulderinc.com Jan 09 21:19:06 yup Jan 09 21:19:08 thanks Jan 09 21:19:15 <[g2]> heh NP :0 Jan 09 21:19:37 told Daniel about your system Jan 09 21:20:10 <[g2]> thx... Well see how that box holds up as a Debian buildd Jan 09 21:20:31 <[g2]> I've got an issue to sort out with the >64 MB ram Jan 09 21:20:40 <[g2]> but <= 64MB runs fine Jan 09 21:20:46 should be better then a slug Jan 09 21:21:02 oh well Jan 09 21:21:13 bed time guys, thanks for the poke in the right direction Jan 09 21:21:19 ok Jan 09 21:21:29 nite Jan 09 21:22:01 got me a 4gig microdrive ready Jan 09 21:23:02 <[g2]> ibedonc you'll probably be disappointed with the microdrive :( Jan 09 21:23:29 <[g2]> they max out around 3-4 MBs Jan 09 21:23:42 or got usb 2.0 drives also Jan 09 21:23:57 <[g2]> that's the ticket :) Jan 09 21:24:04 <[g2]> I've pulled 14MB there Jan 09 21:24:13 good Jan 09 21:24:29 so how long for the 128m issue Jan 09 21:24:52 <[g2]> on the debian buildd bonnie++ clocked in at 11MB+ on a normal system as a user Jan 09 21:30:00 good i2c connections Jan 09 21:30:15 can add i2c devices Jan 09 21:30:32 adc and i/o devices Jan 09 21:31:03 <[g2]> ibedonc i2c will come out on out on a header Jan 09 21:31:14 yes Jan 09 21:31:17 saw that Jan 09 21:31:46 what to make a i2c relay board Jan 09 21:31:50 want Jan 09 21:32:03 also a i2c DVM Jan 09 21:32:23 <[g2]> ibedonc I'd like to play some more with I2C Jan 09 21:32:37 <[g2]> there are 3 devices on the bus now Jan 09 21:32:44 temp ? Jan 09 21:32:45 <[g2]> the Temp/Voltage monitor Jan 09 21:32:49 yes Jan 09 21:32:49 <[g2]> EEPROM Jan 09 21:32:52 <[g2]> RTC Jan 09 21:32:57 ok Jan 09 21:33:23 which chip u use for temp / volts Jan 09 21:34:19 <[g2]> AD7418 Jan 09 21:34:22 <[g2]> Analog Devices Jan 09 21:35:11 [g2]: btw, auto poweron on the loft? Jan 09 21:35:11 use use them for my renewable energy monitoring Jan 09 21:35:27 colud Jan 09 21:35:29 could Jan 09 21:35:34 <[g2]> ibedonc cool Jan 09 21:35:50 add more to the bus Jan 09 21:36:11 <[g2]> I don't know the addresses get configured Jan 09 21:36:37 usually have address lines to set that Jan 09 21:36:53 <[g2]> I mean with the chip Jan 09 21:37:04 ibedonc: DVM? To make a composite signal for TV and such? Jan 09 21:37:13 <[g2]> I'm sure it's in the datasheet :) Jan 09 21:37:22 * [g2] is just wondering aloud Jan 09 21:37:23 Digital Volt Meter Jan 09 21:37:31 oh ;) Jan 09 21:37:40 for amps / volts Jan 09 21:37:54 on solar / wind app Jan 09 21:38:03 home power stuff Jan 09 21:38:10 cool Jan 09 21:38:19 slug has i2c also Jan 09 21:38:39 but could end up with a custom loft Jan 09 21:38:52 just bare min one Jan 09 21:38:59 low cost Jan 09 21:39:33 I'm considering a loft or two.. one for all my compiling needs, and one for fun ;) Jan 09 21:39:40 could use the fan rpm for gen rpm Jan 09 21:39:53 <[g2]> POC on the dev platform and then production on a cost reduced version Jan 09 21:39:56 I want one to dev on Jan 09 21:40:05 yes Jan 09 21:40:17 <[g2]> you are not alone :) Jan 09 21:40:49 still have the slug lockup on me for firewall app Jan 09 21:41:10 mine does too, but that appears to be the wireless nic Jan 09 21:41:21 not as bad with just openslug and no extra HD and no dhcp Jan 09 21:41:28 I'm going to try to run mine LE, and see if that's the problem Jan 09 21:41:42 I am using a USB 2.0 eth Jan 09 21:41:50 to direcway sat modem Jan 09 21:41:54 * [g2] in the next day or 2 I'll setup a test lab Jan 09 21:42:18 ibedonc: any log output that points a finger in any direction? Jan 09 21:42:28 none Jan 09 21:42:42 and you don't have serial? Jan 09 21:42:42 just locked console Jan 09 21:42:44 <[g2]> I've played with Loft as DHCP server and masq'ing to Ethernet with iptables Jan 09 21:42:55 <[g2]> ibedonc are you familiar with grouter Jan 09 21:43:10 and disconnecting the nets do not help Jan 09 21:43:14 no Jan 09 21:43:36 Nail , I have a serial console Jan 09 21:43:37 <[g2]> ibedonc you're buildiing from OE right ? Jan 09 21:43:50 ibedonc: hmm.. that bad.. Jan 09 21:43:58 just stock openslug Jan 09 21:44:05 <[g2]> ok Jan 09 21:44:08 now Jan 09 21:44:26 what running open debian Jan 09 21:44:28 was Jan 09 21:44:33 <[g2]> grouter is a 2.6.late model by the netfilet guy Jan 09 21:44:44 <[g2]> runs in 15MB flash Jan 09 21:45:04 but got another slug and setup as openslug only Jan 09 21:45:13 so diff slug locks also Jan 09 21:45:35 oh well, gotta go to bed Jan 09 21:45:36 ran 3 days longest time Jan 09 21:45:41 later folks Jan 09 21:45:46 <[g2]> nite Jan 09 21:46:56 <[g2]> ibedonc are you masq'ing or just routing ? Jan 09 21:47:05 masq Jan 09 21:47:15 <[g2]> and what kind of traffic ? Jan 09 21:47:18 <[g2]> http ? Jan 09 21:47:22 yes Jan 09 21:47:27 aim Jan 09 21:47:28 irc Jan 09 21:47:37 <[g2]> ok Jan 09 21:47:37 low usage Jan 09 21:47:43 <[g2]> really ? Jan 09 21:47:47 yes Jan 09 21:47:51 <[g2]> kinda like IRC Jan 09 21:48:06 <[g2]> short packets Jan 09 21:48:08 not a server Jan 09 21:48:21 <[g2]> I meant a clinet box Jan 09 21:48:31 <[g2]> but yes, not a server :) Jan 09 21:49:04 well if you keeps up I will go back to a x86 nlx box for firewall Jan 09 21:49:20 just use the slugs for the RE stuff Jan 09 21:49:31 <[g2]> nod Jan 09 21:49:44 got one running SANE for a network scanner and it is fine Jan 09 21:49:48 <[g2]> Well I'll be testing the Loft Jan 09 21:50:08 <[g2]> My RV042 has been up for a week or more Jan 09 21:50:13 if it does the same I would not be happy Jan 09 21:50:19 <[g2]> so I know the hw can do it Jan 09 21:50:31 <[g2]> The RV are IXP425 based Jan 09 21:50:48 I do not know the numbers yet Jan 09 21:51:07 <[g2]> nod about the happy Jan 09 21:51:15 <[g2]> but there are 2 kinda bugs Jan 09 21:51:16 ok so diff proc Jan 09 21:51:17 <[g2]> hw and sw Jan 09 21:51:31 <[g2]> I think the 420s should be able to do it Jan 09 21:51:38 <[g2]> I think it s a sw issue Jan 09 21:51:57 is the 425 a faster chip ? Jan 09 21:52:00 <[g2]> this is why I want to get JTAG cheap Jan 09 21:52:13 <[g2]> all can run up to 533 Jan 09 21:52:49 so what is the diff from 420 to 425 Jan 09 22:00:13 <[g2]> I think the Intel web site has a bunch of info on all the features, but Jan 09 22:00:35 <[g2]> it's basically an extra NPE and some other hw Jan 09 22:12:02 3 networks ? Jan 09 22:13:06 <[g2]> up with the hw Jan 09 22:16:08 * ByronT is away: auto-away after 180m idle Jan 10 01:47:31 hi to all guys Jan 10 01:49:15 does someone have an idea when the next release of os will come out ? Jan 10 01:51:44 sometime in the next three months. You can build it now using the master makefile. Jan 10 01:52:01 it all depends on alpha testers building it and testing it Jan 10 02:06:03 ah ok Jan 10 02:06:12 but with the master makefile Jan 10 02:06:27 witch is the right option to use ? Jan 10 02:06:34 build-openslug-image ? Jan 10 02:06:48 make openslug-image will do it Jan 10 02:06:57 ah ok Jan 10 02:06:58 see the wiki page Jan 10 02:07:06 thanks Jan 10 02:07:18 and if the wiki page doesn't have the right info, then please update the wiki page Jan 10 02:38:45 hi Jan 10 02:39:07 i ve tried to compile the development 3.0 os via makefile Jan 10 02:39:26 but i get this errors: Jan 10 02:39:28 monotone: misuse: database schemas do not match Jan 10 02:39:40 upgrade monotone to 0.25 Jan 10 02:39:51 after monotone/nslu2-linux.db.gz ha been downloaded Jan 10 02:39:55 ah ok Jan 10 02:43:58 or 0.24 will do if that is easier Jan 10 02:44:04 but it has to be at least 0.24 Jan 10 02:45:13 see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 10 02:59:56 2006