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Feb 21 15:16:01 <velinp> ~seen lennert
Feb 21 15:16:17 <apt> lennert is currently on #openjtag. Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 55m 17s, last said: 'you know we're rewriting the cirrus ep93xx code, right?'.
Feb 21 15:29:35 <mtb> Hi. Anyone have any idea why after installing a build with 2.6.15 via the master makefile, /sbin/hotplug is not being triggered when a usb device is inserted?
Feb 21 15:30:01 <koen> isn't udev suppossed to handle that nowadays?
Feb 21 15:30:39 <mtb> ?? -  nope, hence hotplug-ng is in the base install
Feb 21 15:31:06 <koen> hotplug-ng has been dead for a few months now
Feb 21 15:31:18 <mtb> dead as in non functional?
Feb 21 15:31:30 <koen> dead as in abandonded development
Feb 21 15:32:12 <mtb> hmmm, well any idea on the best way to get info and scripts triggered on insert with no hotplug?
Feb 21 15:32:59 <koen> udev I guess
Feb 21 15:33:21 <mtb> yeah, the problem is triggering with a deamon...
Feb 21 15:33:24 <mtb> gah
Feb 21 15:33:27 <mtb> without
Feb 21 15:37:20 <mtb> hmm, well if hotpluh-ng is no more, can the next release have hotplug proper - pretty please:)
Feb 21 16:09:20 <andrea_> hi to all!
Feb 21 16:09:45 <andrea_> i ve a question: i see an openslug 3.6 treen in the feed 
Feb 21 16:09:57 <andrea_> can someone tell me what is it ?
Feb 21 16:10:03 <NAiL> not yet released
Feb 21 16:10:24 <NAiL> there are some issues to fix up before a release is done
Feb 21 16:10:26 <andrea_> ve u an idea whe the next-2.7 openslug will be relesed ?
Feb 21 16:10:54 <EvilDevil> when it's done? NAiL ;-)
Feb 21 16:19:48 <andrea_> sure
Feb 21 16:30:14 <NAiL> I hope it won't be very long, to be honest
Feb 21 16:31:01 * VoodooZ crosses his fingers
Feb 21 16:57:40 <kitno455> re
Feb 21 16:58:40 <kitno455> looks like something in openslug/ucslugc needs a minor update:
Feb 21 16:58:42 <kitno455> NOTE: preferred version 2.6.15.2 of ixp4xx-kernel not available
Feb 21 16:58:50 <kitno455> NOTE: package ixp4xx-kernel-2.6.15.3: started
Feb 21 17:00:14 <NAiL> is that svn or monotone?
Feb 21 17:00:34 <kitno455> MT i guess, i dont know how to change?
Feb 21 17:00:42 <kitno455> should i change?
Feb 21 17:01:48 <NAiL> see if 2.6.15.4 builds
Feb 21 17:01:57 <NAiL> and set preferred version to that if it does
Feb 21 17:05:37 <kitno455> NAiL, is more current developement now going on in the svn repo?
Feb 21 17:05:58 <NAiL> no
Feb 21 17:06:12 <NAiL> the latest development is always in monotone (with some kernel-stuff in cvs)
Feb 21 17:06:29 <NAiL> the svn development is just small fixes before the release
Feb 21 17:06:41 <kitno455> hmm- ok
Feb 21 17:06:45 <NAiL> ie, what is going to be 3.6-beta soon
Feb 21 17:07:20 <kitno455> so a snapshot of MT is loaded into svn, and only minor tweaks done there?
Feb 21 17:07:26 <NAiL> exactly
Feb 21 17:07:53 <kitno455> so current HEAD is not set to 2.6.15.4?
Feb 21 17:08:12 <NAiL> I don't know, since I haven't built head for a long time
Feb 21 17:08:26 <NAiL> HEAD should probably be 2.6.16-rc4 right now, actally
Feb 21 17:08:33 <NAiL> s/actally/actually/
Feb 21 17:08:34 <apt> NAiL meant: HEAD should probably be 2.6.16-rc4 right now, actually
Feb 21 17:09:01 <kitno455> hmm- i just did a make update
Feb 21 17:09:29 <kitno455> and ucslugc still wants to build  2.6.15.2
Feb 21 17:09:37 <kitno455> where does that live....
Feb 21 17:09:45 <NAiL> I'm not saying it is, I just know that the 2.6.16-rc4 kernel is in the repo
Feb 21 17:10:00 <NAiL> PREFERRED_VERSION_ixp4xx-kernel in openembedded/conf/distro/slugos.conf
Feb 21 17:10:06 <NAiL> (iirc)
Feb 21 17:12:10 <kitno455> yes- i followed the conf chain, and we end up there.
Feb 21 17:12:22 <kitno455> still set to 2.6.15.2
Feb 21 17:12:43 <kitno455> just finished building 2.6.15.3, so lets try 4
Feb 21 17:17:51 <kitno455> NOTE: preferred version 2.6.15.4 of ixp4xx-kernel not available
Feb 21 17:18:40 <kitno455> hmm- lets try 2.6.16-rc4
Feb 21 17:37:01 <kitno455> ok, 2.6.16-rc4 builds, now building the image, and we will test.
Feb 21 17:43:05 <NAiL> yeah
Feb 21 17:43:14 <NAiL> 2.6.15.4 doesn't have a .bb
Feb 21 17:43:17 <NAiL> .3 has though
Feb 21 17:43:30 <NAiL> but 6-rc4 is the one people are currently working on
Feb 21 17:44:00 <NAiL> I don't know why there's a PREFERRED_VERSION in HEAD actually... 
Feb 21 17:45:47 <kitno455> yes- loading it now
Feb 21 19:41:49 <kitno455> ok this is weird- do you guys have a macaddress on the label on the bottom of the slug's case?
Feb 21 19:42:27 <kitno455> i thought i remembered my older slugs had the mac.
Feb 21 19:42:46 <kitno455> this new one i just got seems to have the machine name instead?
Feb 21 19:43:55 <NAiL> um
Feb 21 19:44:03 <kitno455> hm- i guess that the part after LKG is the last half of mac
Feb 21 19:44:10 <NAiL> I have a LKG<something>
Feb 21 19:44:10 <NAiL> yes
Feb 21 19:44:18 <kitno455> weird
Feb 21 19:44:23 <NAiL> jbowler knows the intricacies of that
Feb 21 19:44:27 <[cc]smart> Hi. Does sbdy care for openzaurus.org domain ?
Feb 21 19:45:05 <NAiL> I would think #oe would be the right place to ask that. 
Feb 21 19:45:22 <[cc]smart> oh. wrong tab :)
Feb 21 19:45:31 <NAiL> ;)
Feb 21 19:48:41 <kitno455> i just flashed to head on a slug with no serial, and it did not ask for a dhcp addy
Feb 21 19:48:56 <kitno455> and it is not on .77
Feb 21 19:49:35 <NAiL> did you rebuild the ixp modules?
Feb 21 19:49:57 <kitno455> manually?
Feb 21 19:49:58 <NAiL> (does the network led switch off for a while during boot?)
Feb 21 19:50:11 <kitno455> dunno. its on now. i will reboot
Feb 21 19:50:12 <NAiL> yeah, you have to do that manually after building a new kernel
Feb 21 19:50:33 <kitno455> arg
Feb 21 19:50:45 <kitno455> i dont recall doing that before?
Feb 21 19:50:55 <NAiL> there is (as far as we know), no way to rebuild the modules automatically
Feb 21 19:51:34 <kitno455> if we have CONFIG_MODVERSIONS would that help?
Feb 21 19:51:50 <kitno455> or whatever that is called, i forget
Feb 21 19:52:40 <NAiL> dunno
Feb 21 19:52:55 <kitno455> ok- lets see
Feb 21 19:54:57 <kitno455> ixp400-eth, ixp4xx-csr, ixp-osal?
Feb 21 19:55:25 <NAiL> yeah
Feb 21 19:56:30 <lucid> i have a strange problem. running the binary release of 2.7 and my load average slowly creeps up to 0.99 and stays there.
Feb 21 19:56:57 <kitno455> lucid, can you see anything in ps
Feb 21 19:57:01 <kitno455> or top
Feb 21 19:57:18 <lucid> yeah, only things running are getty and dropbear
Feb 21 19:57:35 <VoodooZ> that's a know bug with the net driver
Feb 21 19:57:35 <lucid> oh
Feb 21 19:57:37 <lucid>  DW  [ixp425_csr]
Feb 21 19:57:50 <lucid> ok.  thanks
Feb 21 19:58:40 <VoodooZ> I'm not sure but perhaps the upcoming 3.6 beta fixesthat.
Feb 21 19:59:03 <lucid> it doesn't seem to impact performance at all
Feb 21 19:59:26 <NAiL> no, it's just the network driver busy-waiting
Feb 21 19:59:26 <lucid> at least, not that I can tell
Feb 21 19:59:32 <lucid> yeah
Feb 21 19:59:43 <NAiL> so there's no performance hit (atleast not anything you should notice)
Feb 21 20:09:18 <NAiL> btw, has anyone tried kexec on arm?
Feb 21 20:09:58 <kitno455> not me
Feb 21 20:10:55 <newbie45> hej
Feb 21 20:11:05 <NAiL> hi
Feb 21 20:11:49 <newbie45> I've been trying to compile libtdb for haserldb and I need some help with an error message
Feb 21 20:11:50 <kitno455> i thought kexec was pretty x86 specific
Feb 21 20:12:24 <NAiL> http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/fastboot/2005-March/001290.html
Feb 21 20:14:15 <NAiL> I don't know if there is support, but if it works, it's pretty cool :)
Feb 21 20:14:38 <newbie45> is there anyone who ports packages to the slug routinely? 
Feb 21 20:15:02 <kitno455> newbie45, post the error message and wait
Feb 21 20:15:10 <newbie45> k
Feb 21 20:15:15 <kitno455> someone who knows will comment
Feb 21 20:15:39 <newbie45> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
Feb 21 20:15:41 <newbie45> checking host system type... cc: No such file or directory
Feb 21 20:15:42 <newbie45> cc: No such file or directory
Feb 21 20:15:44 <newbie45> configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one
Feb 21 20:16:11 <NAiL> the configure script is broken and needs patching ;)
Feb 21 20:16:16 <NAiL> (probably)
Feb 21 20:16:26 <newbie45> most prolly so
Feb 21 20:16:28 <NAiL> are you trying to compile this cross via OE?
Feb 21 20:16:36 <newbie45> native
Feb 21 20:16:37 <kitno455> does it use configure, or just a Makefile
Feb 21 20:16:56 <newbie45> I followed the instructions in the haserl INSTALL guide
Feb 21 20:17:08 <NAiL> native? Try "CC=gcc configure"
Feb 21 20:17:09 <kitno455> haserl knows nothing of slug
Feb 21 20:17:22 <newbie45> CFLAGS="-O2 -fPIC" ./configure --disable-shared --prefix="/tmp/tdb"
Feb 21 20:17:43 <NAiL> CFLAGS="-O2 -fPIC" CC=gcc ./configure <params>
Feb 21 20:18:05 <NAiL> alternatively, symlink gcc to cc
Feb 21 20:18:30 <newbie45> trying
Feb 21 20:19:13 <newbie45> it worked! thanks a lot :-)
Feb 21 20:19:14 <NAiLzZz> np
Feb 21 20:19:20 * NAiLzZz kindagoes to bed
Feb 21 20:19:32 <kitno455> ok, now i am stumped. i rebuilt the ixp stuff, but i cant convince this thing to rebuild the jffs image
Feb 21 20:19:55 <NAiLzZz> but if the configure-script was stupid enough to not find cc after finding gcc, you might expect more errors ;)
Feb 21 20:20:23 <newbie45> yes
Feb 21 20:20:39 <NAiLzZz> kitno455: uhm? bb -cclean ixp400-eth ixp4xx-csr ixp-osal && make openslug-image
Feb 21 20:20:41 <newbie45> tdb is more or less unsupported since 2002
Feb 21 20:20:50 <NAiLzZz> ugh
Feb 21 20:21:04 <kitno455> NAiLzZz, tried that
Feb 21 20:21:11 <kitno455> well, ucslugc-image
Feb 21 20:21:15 <NAiLzZz> making openslug/debianslug-image should *always* rebuild the image
Feb 21 20:21:21 <NAiLzZz> even though there's no changes
Feb 21 20:21:23 <kitno455> it does not
Feb 21 20:21:30 <kitno455> or i am blind
Feb 21 20:21:39 <NAiLzZz> well, bb -cclean ucslugc-image ;)
Feb 21 20:22:02 <kitno455> i blasted the stamps, and it says it rebuilt
Feb 21 20:22:08 <kitno455> but i dont see it
Feb 21 20:23:47 <NAiLzZz> hmm
Feb 21 20:23:48 <NAiLzZz> I dunno
Feb 21 20:23:56 <kitno455> i just did -cclean, lets see
Feb 21 20:24:20 <kitno455> hmm- i blasted the stamps on slugos-image-1.0-r26
Feb 21 20:24:34 <kitno455> not on ucslugc-image
Feb 21 20:25:19 <kitno455> nope
Feb 21 20:25:26 <kitno455> still did not build
Feb 21 20:26:28 <kitno455> hmm- i switched user accounts right in the middle of this
Feb 21 20:26:38 <kitno455> stupid me- lets see if thats it
Feb 21 21:13:46 <kitno455> ok- this is weird
Feb 21 21:14:21 <kitno455> when i do 'make ucslugc-image' it works, and says: NOTE: build 200602211542: completed
Feb 21 21:14:47 <kitno455> but the file it actually changed has a different date. it keeps overwriting the first build.
Feb 21 21:15:07 <kitno455> ucslugc-nslu2-20060221172042.rootfs.jffs2
Feb 21 21:33:02 <Sinclair73de> hi, is it still necessary to change to kernel default cmdline or is debianslug now working with the commandline from apex?
Feb 21 21:37:21 <Sinclair73de> noboby there?
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