**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 26 10:59:56 2006 Feb 26 14:03:26 VoodooZ_Log: ping? Feb 26 14:45:36 hi is here anyone how uses Squirrelmail on a Openslug? Feb 26 15:16:55 hi, is it a known issue that yesterdays head has a kernel oops in the network driver ? Feb 26 15:17:09 hmm Feb 26 15:17:16 do you have the oops handy? Feb 26 15:17:24 I wonder if that's the same one as I get on the DS101 Feb 26 15:18:32 koen|train: anjuta 1.2.4a IIRC. Any great improvements on 2.x? ;) Feb 26 15:19:08 I can fetch it, it is on my laptop, first use of the serial port (although for some reason I only got the rx part working and not the tx) Feb 26 15:19:29 NAiL: people seem to think 2.0 is nicer as 1.2 Feb 26 15:19:55 ah, well, 1.2 is a world of difference from the old turbopascal type IDE :-P Feb 26 15:20:10 which was the last time I used an IDE Feb 26 15:20:18 ie, dos textmode stuff Feb 26 15:22:22 yeah Feb 26 15:22:39 we were forced to use borland turbo C++ as IDE two years ago Feb 26 15:23:23 good thing my dad saved all the books that came with it Feb 26 15:23:26 haha Feb 26 15:23:31 yeah, I've used that too Feb 26 15:23:43 not as extensively as I did turbopascal though Feb 26 15:24:22 I kinda grew up with TP. After a little while it was just painfully slow, so most of my code became "begin; ; end" :-P Feb 26 15:24:59 heh Feb 26 15:25:25 TC++ is the latest and greatest they have over here Feb 26 15:25:32 at least for non-CS studies Feb 26 15:25:41 for CS studies java is all the rage Feb 26 15:25:47 I know :( Feb 26 15:26:08 * koen|train is happy doing EE Feb 26 15:27:08 I hope to start EE this autumn Feb 26 15:27:25 NAiL, http://pastebin.ca/43224 Feb 26 15:27:48 I'm getting an STK500 and a "handful" of AVRs on tuesday that I'm going to play around with.. might learn something :-P Feb 26 15:27:51 hey eFfeM Feb 26 15:27:52 this is where things go wrong Feb 26 15:27:53 # Feb 26 15:27:53 ixp400_eth: CPU clock speed (approx) = 266 MHz Feb 26 15:27:53 # Feb 26 15:27:53 [error] ixOsalCacheDmaMalloc(): Fail to alloc page Feb 26 15:27:53 # Feb 26 15:27:55 Fatal error: IX_ACC_DRV_DMA_MALLOC() returned NULL, no NPE update zones availabl Feb 26 15:27:57 # Feb 26 15:27:59 e Feb 26 15:28:01 ki hoen Feb 26 15:28:04 hi koen Feb 26 15:28:15 struggling to get 2.6.16 on my slug Feb 26 15:28:39 they released it already? Feb 26 15:28:40 ipkg update has removed all my .15 modules so I have to move on ... Feb 26 15:28:51 it's on the head (git4 that is) Feb 26 15:28:56 hmm, no, doesn't look like the same panic Feb 26 15:29:26 where's yours Feb 26 15:29:27 eFfeM: I don't think it'll fix it, but would you mind trying with todays head? It's -git9 ;) Feb 26 15:29:47 I don't have it handy, I'll set up the ds101 later today and paste it Feb 26 15:30:28 i just did make update Feb 26 15:30:48 I committed the latest ixp4xx-kernel an hour or two ago Feb 26 15:32:27 actually I was mistaken, I had rc4-git5 Feb 26 15:32:50 rebuilding right now, for safety's sake nuked all network driver stuff Feb 26 15:33:02 good Feb 26 15:33:31 NAiL, is git9 working for you? Feb 26 15:34:22 It worked on my BE slug atleast Feb 26 15:34:26 and it boots on DS101 Feb 26 15:34:50 I still get kernel panics on the DS101 when modprobing network, but I haven't bothered looking at that yet Feb 26 15:34:59 It's not my top priority, tbh Feb 26 15:36:04 ok, so it should work on my slug as well Feb 26 15:36:36 yeah Feb 26 15:36:37 we'll know in a while, otherwise we can compare versions Feb 26 15:36:56 I'm not close to my slug now, so it's kinda hard Feb 26 15:37:12 koen|train, have you ever tried your imic on a recent kernel (as my psc805 started working) Feb 26 15:37:32 NAiL, understood, also not close to your dev system ? Feb 26 15:37:38 eFfeM: not yet Feb 26 15:37:54 eFfeM: My laptop is my devsystem, so I'm close to that. And I've got my DS101 with me ;) Feb 26 15:37:56 eFfeM: I cannibalised the HD to test my ep93xx board Feb 26 15:38:22 NAiL, then we should at least be able to compare md5sums on modules etc Feb 26 15:38:33 ep93xx ? Feb 26 15:39:27 http://www.glomationinc.com/products_9312-sx.html Feb 26 15:39:37 small chance I'll be getting an ixp425 system in april (with 128 M ram, 533 mhz) Feb 26 15:39:54 loft? Feb 26 15:39:57 no Feb 26 15:40:11 is the loft also 425? Feb 26 15:40:20 I think so Feb 26 15:40:20 422 iirc Feb 26 15:40:23 seem to recall it is, but I am not sure Feb 26 15:40:24 ah Feb 26 15:40:34 It's not 420 ;) Feb 26 15:41:07 422 according to http://www.giantshoulderinc.com/hardware.html Feb 26 15:41:18 eFfeM: The md5sums might not match though, since I'm building using the CVS repo, not OE. Feb 26 15:41:22 425 has hw to do aes Feb 26 15:41:28 ah, ok Feb 26 15:41:50 shouldn't be much difference, but I don't know Feb 26 15:44:49 we'll see Feb 26 15:49:05 koen|train, have you heard anything from pigi recently? after the discussion on ipkg i haven't heard from him or from the bug. I hope I haven't been too hard on him Feb 26 15:59:21 NAiL, for some reason the system decided to rebuilt gcc-cross etc, no idea why as I was on the same version, but for safety's sake I decided to blow away tmp and start from scratch (so it'll take a little bit longer). Feb 26 15:59:51 actually are there already plans to move to gcc 4 ? Feb 26 16:00:01 yeah, I don't know why that happens. bitbake did some odd things for me too the other day Feb 26 16:00:07 koen|train, have you heard anything from pigi recently? after the discussion on ipkg i haven't heard from him or from the bug. I hope I haven't been too hard on him Feb 26 16:00:35 eFfeM: Not that I know of. But it'd be interesting. Feb 26 16:00:45 I haven't heard from him Feb 26 16:01:01 He's quite busy with his day job, so it's not unusual for him to 'disappear' Feb 26 16:01:19 fwiw, large parts of OE work with gcc4 Feb 26 16:02:41 I'm using it as the default compiler now Feb 26 16:03:02 * NAiL tries doing a slugos-build with gcc4 Feb 26 16:10:02 vg NAiL Feb 26 16:10:23 i definitely need a new pc :-) Feb 26 16:10:53 heh, why? Feb 26 16:12:08 it's too slow Feb 26 16:12:25 i'm at gettext-native Feb 26 16:13:40 well, I'm doing all my building on a 2.4ghz Celery-M with 384mb ram Feb 26 16:13:41 actually I already ordered a new one, but it'll take two more weeks or so before I have it. 3 Ghz dual pentium with 2 GB mem (actually I could not go the AMD way although that was my preferred option) Feb 26 16:13:54 oh Feb 26 16:14:04 my current system is 3Ghz/1GB Feb 26 16:14:10 It's surprisingly quick actually Feb 26 16:14:27 Of course, my desktop is a lot faster clocking in at 3700+ ;) Feb 26 16:14:59 amd x64 :-D Feb 26 16:15:04 my kids were complaining too much about my old faithful 233 Mhz PC (with 128+128+64 MB) Feb 26 16:15:58 btw what do you guys think about an lcd display on a parallel port. as on e.g.: http://cgi.ebay.nl/HD44780-20X4-Character-LCD-Display-with-LED-backlight_W0QQitemZ7592539756QQcategoryZ26206QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Feb 26 16:16:09 this seems very simple to make Feb 26 16:16:26 I've got a few of those Feb 26 16:16:42 Mine doesn't have backlight though... Feb 26 16:16:49 But that's just two pins less Feb 26 16:16:55 the cmdset it exactly the same Feb 26 16:17:27 (Actually, I'm writing an app to control a HD44780 connected to a serLCD thingo) Feb 26 16:18:43 They're cheap and easy to use Feb 26 16:19:01 the alternative solution I was considering was over i2c with a pcf8574 as in http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddATextDisplayOnI2CWithLCDproc Feb 26 16:20:10 eFfeM: omg Feb 26 16:20:13 but a parallel port solution does not requrie soldering in the slug and is easier to connect to the slug (with usb<->parallel Feb 26 16:20:18 the last one there looks really nice Feb 26 16:20:48 the pcf one? Feb 26 16:20:52 yeah Feb 26 16:21:01 Dunno how to get pcf's though Feb 26 16:21:33 hmm Feb 26 16:21:49 I don't know why I should bother with that. I can probably just use an AVR Feb 26 16:22:46 an avr would probably do equally well Feb 26 16:23:29 Yeah, I'm getting a "handful" of different-size avrs this week Feb 26 16:23:56 saw that, have been looking at a butterfly, but had no imminent use. Feb 26 16:24:25 I just want to try working with AVR Feb 26 16:24:35 and since I can get a bunch of them free, I don't mind ;) Feb 26 16:25:38 the pcf is $ 2.5 at futurlec.com + $ 4 to mail them to the EU Feb 26 16:26:13 hmm Feb 26 16:26:27 I don't grok half of the text on that ebay page Feb 26 16:26:31 $ 5 to the rest of the world Feb 26 16:27:02 back in 15 mins or so (grabbing a bite) Feb 26 16:39:31 back Feb 26 16:48:39 NAiL, what is the problem with the ebay page? Feb 26 16:51:50 It's like... dutch Feb 26 16:52:24 you mean the ebay page I gave for the parallel lcd ? Feb 26 16:52:26 yeah Feb 26 16:52:49 to me most of it seems plain english ... Feb 26 16:53:23 apart from the std ebay junk at the beginning and the end Feb 26 16:53:53 yeah, that was what I was referring to... ;) Feb 26 16:54:14 anyway, I don't have an ebay login, so I'd have to create that :-P Feb 26 16:55:06 i got my audio dongle through ebay for eur 9 and a siemens serial cable for eur 3.5 (both incl. shipping) Feb 26 16:56:13 yeah Feb 26 16:57:55 you need to be lucky (and of course watch out for excessive shipping costs) Feb 26 17:43:23 hi is here anyone how uses truecrypt on the slug? Feb 26 17:57:03 Maybe someone can look at the error i get compiling the Kernel module for truecrypt on the slug. I copied the compiled source code for the Kernel to slug from my cross development area: http://pastebin.ca/43231 Feb 26 18:00:11 kami22: It's lacking an -I, it looks like Feb 26 18:00:26 or the -I is there, but the .h's are not Feb 26 18:02:14 okay but how can i fix this which file is missing? Feb 26 18:04:58 kami22 i think you're pointing to the wrong (unconfigured and not yet compiled) kernel sources Feb 26 18:06:03 EvilDevil: okay maybe we can solve this on another way Feb 26 18:08:14 i am using a slug with a selfcompiled .img with a kernel 2.6.15 but now i have to recreate my crossdevelopment system and now its called ixp400-kernel-2.6.15.2... and i got always my old sources from the old cross development area with 2.6.15 so can i update the kernel on the slug with out destroying the complete sytem? just upgradeing the kernel? Feb 26 18:10:40 i'm not sure. if you're upgrade vom 2.6.15.x to 2.6.15.x+n it *should* be safe, but if you'r upgrading to 2.6.16.x you have to upgrade the rootfs too Feb 26 18:11:21 mhh okay Feb 26 18:11:45 how can i upgrade from 2.6.15 to 2.6.15.2 Feb 26 18:11:46 ?? Feb 26 18:12:17 reflash -k openslug.....kernel.img Feb 26 18:15:56 okay danke Feb 26 18:38:52 i installed cyrus-imapd but always when i am trying to do a saslpasswd2 i get this error : saslpasswd2: generic failure Feb 26 18:43:05 sounds like generic shit kami22 Feb 26 18:44:06 test Feb 26 18:46:13 yes but how can i find out more cant change any password that not good Feb 26 18:46:35 and i cant find the sasl db to deleted it maybe a folder is missing Feb 26 18:46:51 but how can i find out where saslpasswd2 is storring the db? Feb 26 18:52:37 on the cyrus-imapd page? Feb 26 18:52:46 google? Feb 26 20:56:05 <|kami|> EvilDevil: still there? Feb 26 21:00:23 yeah. why Feb 26 21:03:36 <|kami|> if got a new msg when trying to compile truecrypt Feb 26 21:05:11 pastebin? Feb 26 21:05:48 <|kami|> http://pastebin.ca/43253 Feb 26 21:07:39 hmm Feb 26 21:07:41 kein plan Feb 26 21:07:57 i meant no clue Feb 26 21:08:00 :O Feb 26 21:08:09 <|kami|> :) i understand you Feb 26 21:08:11 <|kami|> :) Feb 26 21:09:59 http://www.google.com/search?complete=1&hl=en&lr=&q=does+not+support+interworking%2C+whereas&btnG=Search Feb 26 21:10:13 gotta go.need sleeeeeep Feb 26 21:10:17 n8 Feb 27 08:53:56 moning NAiL Feb 27 08:54:08 just flashed git9, worked! Feb 27 08:54:44 no panic Feb 27 08:54:45 ? Feb 27 08:55:21 nope Feb 27 08:55:32 redid the turnup, that is rebooting now Feb 27 08:55:55 one warning, one error during boot, will paste them when the system is up again Feb 27 08:56:49 quite some missing modules that didn't get added in ipkg upgrade Feb 27 08:56:53 hey, there it is Feb 27 09:00:57 the flash boot from the fresh image complains that /etc/mtab is not there (not very problemsome in my opinion) Feb 27 09:01:24 also I get Feb 27 09:01:40 sysctl: error: sys.kernel.hotplug is an unknown key Feb 27 09:01:50 this is also on the flash boot Feb 27 09:02:35 oh, the sysctl is a miscommit :-P Feb 27 09:02:43 the "sys." part shouldn't be there Feb 27 09:03:10 could you paste the part surrounding etc/mtab error? Feb 27 09:03:38 yes, one sec (i'm now behind the build system, the slug is on the table with the laptop attached) Feb 27 09:05:16 and, could you remove "sys." from sysctl.conf and see if that gives the same error? Feb 27 09:06:53 hey guys :) Feb 27 09:07:07 did anybody of you manage to use mdev? Feb 27 09:09:48 NAiL, this suffices? otherwise I'll use pastebin Feb 27 09:09:48 sda: assuming drive cache: write through Feb 27 09:09:49 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 > Feb 27 09:09:49 sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda Feb 27 09:09:49 warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory Feb 27 09:09:49 INIT: version 2.86 booting Feb 27 09:10:12 i'll try the sys thing on the next reboot Feb 27 09:10:18 it suffices Feb 27 09:10:35 It's probably harmless, but I don't like it. Feb 27 09:12:44 hmmm. not sure what I have built, the log says 2.6.15 and the tmp/work dir is ixp4xx-kernel-2.6.15.3-r0.0 Feb 27 09:12:57 i just build using the master makefile Feb 27 09:15:16 NAiL, is that ok? Feb 27 09:18:38 back in 10 minutes Feb 27 09:20:45 that was a slight slipup Feb 27 09:26:27 hm; make update; make openslug-image ? Feb 27 09:27:40 hmm Feb 27 09:28:43 source setup-env, bb -cclean ixp4xx-kernel ixp400-eth ixp4xx-csr ixp-osal, then make update openslug-image Feb 27 09:47:03 NAiL, its on its way, i'll keep you posted Feb 27 09:50:10 ty Feb 27 09:50:13 NAiL, any idea why pvrusb2-mci is not in the unstable feed although it is in the pacakges list ? Feb 27 09:50:20 nope Feb 27 09:52:19 well, kinda Feb 27 09:52:36 if it was added recently, the feeds aren't building right now... Feb 27 09:52:54 Actually, I don't know if the unstable feeds are complete Feb 27 09:53:42 pvrusb2 is in since half a year or so. Feb 27 09:53:44 can you do a Feb 27 09:53:45 grep pvrusb2 openembedded/conf/distro/* Feb 27 09:53:59 to see if our conf files are in sync Feb 27 09:57:29 pvrusb2-mci should be built Feb 27 10:00:32 i can't find it in the log; http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/buildlogs/autobuild-nudi-last.txt has no string pvr in it according to firefox Feb 27 10:01:42 also ipkg upgrade did upgrade everything to git9 apart from ixp400 and ixp4xx .... Feb 27 10:02:29 | FATAL: oe_runmake failed Feb 27 10:02:29 NOTE: Task failed: /home/repvik/slug/debianslug/tmp/work/pvrusb2-mci-20060209-r0/temp/log.do_compile.24418 Feb 27 10:02:32 NOTE: package pvrusb2-mci-20060209-r0: task do_compile: failed Feb 27 10:02:49 oh Feb 27 10:03:29 i'll check it out, i am on openslug, two weeks ago this worked, but maybe going to .16 broke things, saw something on the pvrusb mailing list Feb 27 10:05:03 hmm Feb 27 10:05:18 root@NSLU2:/lib/modules# ipkg install ixp400-eth Feb 27 10:05:18 Package ixp400-eth (1.5-r8) installed in root is up to date. Feb 27 10:05:18 Nothing to be done Feb 27 10:05:30 root@NSLU2:/lib/modules# du -a . | grep ixp Feb 27 10:05:30 36 ./2.6.15/kernel/drivers/net/ixp400_eth.ko Feb 27 10:05:30 636 ./2.6.15/kernel/drivers/ixp400/ixp400.ko Feb 27 10:05:30 640 ./2.6.15/kernel/drivers/ixp400 Feb 27 10:05:55 on the unstable feed.... this is definitely not going to fly! Feb 27 10:08:00 shouldn't there be something to bump the ixp modules when moving to a new os Feb 27 10:10:53 the .16 build builds the ixp modules fine but as the version number does not change they are not seen as new Feb 27 10:19:15 My bad. Fixed, and pushed. Feeds should be updated within half an hour. Feb 27 10:19:29 NAiL, after manually adding the ixp modules from my own build git9 booted Feb 27 10:20:49 rwhitby, tnx Feb 27 10:23:03 NAiL:and, could you remove "sys." from sysctl.conf and see if that gives the same error? Feb 27 10:23:23 did so, this fixes things. is this already added? Feb 27 10:23:58 if not can you do it (don't feel very comfortable in that area) Feb 27 10:24:38 no, I can do it Feb 27 10:24:41 2.6.16 is also running from hd Feb 27 10:25:01 eFfeM: you don't get a kernel panic on ixp load? Feb 27 10:25:10 no Feb 27 10:25:16 good Feb 27 10:25:37 root@NSLU2:/var/log# cat /proc/version Feb 27 10:25:37 Linux version 2.6.16 (slug@Woonkamer) (gcc version 3.4.4) #1 Mon Feb 27 10:58:47 CET 2006 Feb 27 10:25:48 also eFfeM-log is running on the slug Feb 27 10:26:59 nice Feb 27 10:27:14 now, just to annoy you, I should upgrade the kernel in OE to -rc5 :-P Feb 27 10:28:05 lol, i don't think I'll do another update today, try to do this every week or so on a moment I have time to deal with issues if they occur Feb 27 10:28:26 actually want to proceed with bluetooth, want to get btalsa running Feb 27 10:29:02 but let me first check the pvrusb2 issue Feb 27 10:31:13 btw wrt the modules: why aren't we using CONFIG_MODVERSIONS ? Feb 27 10:31:57 I have no idea, and I've asked a few times but gotten no answer :-P Feb 27 10:32:01 rwhitby: do you know? Feb 27 10:35:00 what does it do? Feb 27 10:38:25 CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is a notion thought up to make people's lives Feb 27 10:38:25 easier. In essence, what it is meant to achieve is that if you have a Feb 27 10:38:25 module you can attempt to load that module into any kernel, safe in the Feb 27 10:38:25 knowledge that it will fail to load if any of the kernel data Feb 27 10:38:25 structures, types or functions that the module uses have changed. Feb 27 10:38:35 see http://www.skynet.ie/~mark/home/kernel/symbols.html Feb 27 10:39:16 apparently there is a signature on the interface and it will load the modules if the signature matches, independent of kernel version Feb 27 10:40:47 does it work on our kernel? Feb 27 10:40:58 (and does it increase the size of the kernel at all?) Feb 27 10:42:40 it should work on our kernel. if we are really interested in it, I am prepared to give it a swing. Feb 27 10:42:54 wrt size: during that process I can measure, if you tell me where to look Feb 27 10:43:06 I expect a few 100 byte increase Feb 27 10:47:59 rwhitby-away, did you catch my last msg? Feb 27 10:49:56 eFfeM: if it's only a couple of hundred bytes, then that will be fine. Feb 27 10:50:15 look at tmp/deploy/images zImage-* Feb 27 10:50:35 ok, I'll give it a go & report back, what would be the best way to get the size info? the map file ? Feb 27 10:50:49 the kernel size itself Feb 27 10:50:58 the size of the image Feb 27 10:50:59 that's where the limit is Feb 27 10:51:05 yeah Feb 27 10:52:19 for the record: now I have: -rw-rw-r-- 1 slug slug 1000948 Feb 27 11:07 zImage-nslu2be Feb 27 10:52:45 or should I look at the ixp one? this one is 8 bytes more Feb 27 10:54:26 no Feb 27 10:54:40 (well, it doesn't matter, as long as you get the difference) Feb 27 10:54:51 the nslu2 image gets a few bytes tacked on from the original zImage Feb 27 10:54:57 right Feb 27 10:55:01 (same with the ds101, nas100d, etc) Feb 27 10:55:27 Those bytes just sets the mach id (and if the kernel is LE, switches the CPU to LE mode) Feb 27 10:57:04 it's building we'll know in a while (maybe after lunch; (noon in NL)) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 27 10:59:56 2006