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Feb 27 11:23:51 <eFfeM> with modversions I get: -rw-rw-r--  1 slug slug 1011688 Feb 27 12:19 zImage-nslu2be
Feb 27 11:24:23 <eFfeM> are we willing to pay 10.5 K for this? if so I'll move on to test this image, if not i'll revert
Feb 27 11:27:51 <NAiL> hardly
Feb 27 11:28:21 <NAiL> There's a hard limit of 1MB, and we're getting rather close to this already
Feb 27 11:28:45 <eFfeM> ok, understood
Feb 27 11:29:05 <NAiL> It's a feature I'd like to have in the kernel, but not at any cost
Feb 27 11:29:29 <NAiL> of course, I'm not the authorative source 
Feb 27 11:29:51 <NAiL> But my guess is that 10.5k is a bit hard to swallow
Feb 27 11:29:58 <NAiL> rwhitby: what's your opinion? 
Feb 27 11:30:08 <NAiL> we end up at 988k with modversions enabled
Feb 27 11:30:33 <rwhitby> eFfeM: we'll discuss in the core team and get back to you
Feb 27 11:31:24 <eFfeM> ok, np, i'm happy with the current solution, but thought modversions would be more userfriendly
Feb 27 11:36:20 <eFfeM> not sure where the big growth comes from, the define is used in kernel/module.c and the code there does not seem to be that big
Feb 27 12:29:07 <eFfeM> anyone an idea how to get rid of this:
Feb 27 12:29:08 <eFfeM> aclocal:configure.in:44: warning: macro `AM_PATH_ALSA' not found in library
Feb 27 12:29:08 <eFfeM> autoreconf: configure.in: tracing
Feb 27 12:30:43 <eFfeM> is inherit autotools the answer ?
Feb 27 13:22:01 <eFfeM> question: I have a bb file and in order to compile it requires two other packages to be build first.
Feb 27 13:22:06 <eFfeM> how do I specify this?
Feb 27 13:22:21 <eFfeM> is this RDEPENDS or is RDEPENDS only for run-time dependencies?
Feb 27 13:22:35 <NAiL> RDEPENDS is for runtime. DEPENDS is for build-time
Feb 27 13:23:52 <eFfeM> tnx, so I probably need both
Feb 27 13:25:18 <eFfeM> hmm, the bb file already says: DEPENDS = "alsa-lib bluez-libs"
Feb 27 13:25:42 <eFfeM> but they did not build automatically, actually I got a configure error until I build manually
Feb 27 13:25:53 <NAiL> did you do "bb -b ./whatever.bb"?
Feb 27 13:25:58 <NAiL> because that doesn't pull in deps
Feb 27 13:26:01 <eFfeM> yes
Feb 27 13:26:02 <eFfeM> ok
Feb 27 13:26:16 <eFfeM> the file is not in the package list so I had to do that
Feb 27 13:26:32 <NAiL> yeah, but then you have to build the deps manually first
Feb 27 13:27:18 <eFfeM> ok, didn't know that
Feb 27 13:27:52 <NAiL> you learn something every day ;)
Feb 27 13:28:22 <eFfeM> yup
Feb 27 18:15:16 <pmeerw> the spca5xx drivers works with limitations on my openslug 2.7
Feb 27 18:24:40 <NAiL> limitations?
Feb 27 18:25:46 <NAiL> and how'd you get it to compile? :)
Feb 27 19:01:27 <NAiL> VoodooZ: btw, fix for monotone stuff on the nslu2-linux is on the nslu2-dev ml
Feb 27 19:03:33 * koen wants a ixp2800 box
Feb 27 19:04:01 <VoodooZ> NAiL, thanks.
Feb 27 19:04:17 * NAiL rereads what he wrote
Feb 27 19:04:29 <NAiL> fix for mtn stuff on nslu2-dev ml.
Feb 27 19:04:32 <NAiL> ;)
Feb 27 19:05:04 <VoodooZ> mtn confused me earlier. I was expecting mt or mnt
Feb 27 19:33:39 <HopsNBarley> kitno455: you around?
Feb 27 20:00:41 <pmeerw> NAiL: limitation is that 640x480 oopses
Feb 27 20:01:06 <NAiL> that's... a limitation alright
Feb 27 20:01:26 <pmeerw> NAiL: spca5xx req. a small Makefile patch, I think eFfeM submitted that
Feb 27 20:01:39 <NAiL> eFfeM: ping?
Feb 27 20:01:52 <NAiL> ok, was that the latest version?
Feb 27 20:02:12 <NAiL> and, do you have the oops output?
Feb 27 20:03:52 <pmeerw> spca5xx 20060202 is latest, yes
Feb 27 20:09:30 <pmeerw> how do I get the kernel oops on the serial?
Feb 27 20:09:49 <NAiL> doesn't it show up on the serial port?
Feb 27 20:09:53 <NAiL> that's kinda... odd
Feb 27 20:11:49 <pmeerw> nothing appears on the serial (just the OpenSlug 2.7-beta login)
Feb 27 20:12:05 <NAiL> hmm
Feb 27 20:12:09 <pmeerw> hm, maybe the kernel just waits for something
Feb 27 20:12:16 <NAiL> if you login and do "dmesg"?
Feb 27 20:14:23 <eFfeM> NAiL, pong
Feb 27 20:14:32 <pmeerw> nothing, just the last boot msg.
Feb 27 20:14:49 <NAiL> then it hasn't oopsed
Feb 27 20:15:15 <NAiL> eFfeM: did you commit a spca patch to make it compile?
Feb 27 20:15:39 <eFfeM> yes a while ago, do I understand that the makefile patch is missing? it is in my dir
Feb 27 20:15:56 <NAiL> no, I haven't checked
Feb 27 20:16:09 <NAiL> I've just missed the commit
Feb 27 20:16:53 <eFfeM> http://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/eFfeM/.message/1bec
Feb 27 20:17:23 <eFfeM> haven't tested as I do not have this cam, also for that reason didn't add it to the package list
Feb 27 20:18:06 <pmeerw> eFfeM: it kind of works...
Feb 27 20:18:16 <NAiL> might as well add it in unstable
Feb 27 20:18:25 <NAiL> otherwise it won't recieve much testing
Feb 27 20:18:47 <eFfeM> pmeerw, "kind of" doesn't really sound like: "works smoohtly"
Feb 27 20:19:28 <pmeerw> 640x480 hangs/oopses -- don't know yet; but 320x240 works
Feb 27 20:19:32 <eFfeM> ok, then I'll also add btsco, it compiled for me, but for some reason I cannot pair my headset to either slug or FC4
Feb 27 20:19:34 <NAiL> "kind of" is enough to include it to see if the problem goes away on newer kernels ;-)
Feb 27 20:19:42 <eFfeM> i'll add
Feb 27 20:20:07 <pmeerw> it might also be my cam; but it works (also 640x480) on by x86
Feb 27 20:20:15 <eFfeM> is the head merged aka can I safely commit/push
Feb 27 20:20:56 <NAiL> eFfeM: there's a fix on the mailinglist
Feb 27 20:21:07 <HopsNBarley> how do the Redboot,SysConf,Trailer files get made?
Feb 27 20:21:32 <NAiL> in the image?
Feb 27 20:21:33 <eFfeM> NAiL, for what ? which list ? oe? developers? nslu2-linux ?
Feb 27 20:21:39 <NAiL> nslu2-linux
Feb 27 20:22:18 <NAiL> "Monotone problems...."
Feb 27 20:25:52 <eFfeM> hmm. NAiL did the scripts:
Feb 27 20:25:54 <eFfeM> slug@Woonkamer openembedded]$ mt heads
Feb 27 20:25:54 <eFfeM> monotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently unmerged:
Feb 27 20:25:54 <eFfeM> 6fdb3347025c12bf6ebe065971216714232b9f38 xora@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T16:36:08
Feb 27 20:25:54 <eFfeM> bf751c693cb0aa66fdfbf2e072c7ac7e772351ce eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T15:06:14
Feb 27 20:25:54 <eFfeM> 
Feb 27 20:26:36 <eFfeM> is this locally? I'll happily try an mt merge 
Feb 27 20:26:51 <NAiL> that is locally, and those two heads will merge just fine
Feb 27 20:27:05 <NAiL> I merged them in the latest head
Feb 27 20:27:51 <kitno455> HopsNBarley, pong
Feb 27 20:28:03 <NAiL> argh
Feb 27 20:28:04 <HopsNBarley> hey kitno455, how's it going?
Feb 27 20:28:16 <NAiL> something is still wrong with the monotone repo
Feb 27 20:28:18 <kitno455> busy. tired
Feb 27 20:28:33 <HopsNBarley> same here.  my 15month old has decided to give up sleep
Feb 27 20:28:46 <kitno455> my 5 month old never has slept
Feb 27 20:28:59 <kitno455> does not know how apparently
Feb 27 20:29:14 <HopsNBarley> ouch.  it gets better, don't worry.
Feb 27 20:29:30 <kitno455> i feel like walking dead
Feb 27 20:29:35 <kitno455> i cant even program
Feb 27 20:30:09 <kitno455> NAiL, we having MT problems?
Feb 27 20:30:27 <NAiL> yes
Feb 27 20:30:44 <HopsNBarley> i had a quick question for ya.  i'm taking ucslugc out for a drive, and got everything built, but don't have a .image file.  i looked at the various bb files, and it needs SLUGOS_IMAGE_FILE turned on, which then uses Redboot/sysconf/trailer to make the image.  but where do these come from?  openslug has them...
Feb 27 20:31:11 <HopsNBarley> and, programming is nearly impossible w/o proper sleep.  i hear ya.
Feb 27 20:31:23 <eFfeM> NAiL, added spca5xx and btsco to the package list, pushing it right now
Feb 27 20:31:30 <NAiL> ty
Feb 27 20:31:50 <HopsNBarley> i'm sorry - FLASH_IMAGE = yes is what i meant.
Feb 27 20:32:21 <eFfeM> NAiL, was your msg on the dev mailing list to see if we can reduce the kernel? Would it be possible to make ohci, uhci ehci as modules?
Feb 27 20:32:45 <NAiL> eFfeM: yes, that was mentioned 
Feb 27 20:33:11 <NAiL> and so far there has been no protests to it
Feb 27 20:33:32 <eFfeM> s h * t
Feb 27 20:33:42 <NAiL> hmm
Feb 27 20:33:46 <NAiL> that doesn't sound nice
Feb 27 20:33:59 <kitno455> HopsNBarley, hold on
Feb 27 20:34:05 <eFfeM> did push my change in the pckg list and I'm getting the classes/tinderclient.bbclass 3d merge again ....
Feb 27 20:34:29 <NAiL> yeah, there's definitely something wrong
Feb 27 20:34:30 <kitno455> HopsNBarley, does ucslugc build the kernel and the jffs2 image correctly?
Feb 27 20:34:35 <NAiL> I don't know where that came from
Feb 27 20:34:42 <HopsNBarley> today sound bad, so don't worry about it... (yes, both)
Feb 27 20:35:15 <kitno455> HopsNBarley, that is all i use to flash using upslug2
Feb 27 20:35:23 <NAiL> koen: ping?
Feb 27 20:35:25 <NAiL> http://monotone.nslu2-linux.org/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev
Feb 27 20:35:25 <HopsNBarley> kitno455: could i just copy the same redboot/sysconf/trailer files over?  
Feb 27 20:35:29 <kitno455> do you really want to build the complete image
Feb 27 20:35:47 <HopsNBarley> okay, obviously i've missed some functions of upslug2.  let me study.  thanks!
Feb 27 20:35:47 <kitno455> HopsNBarley, no- upslug2 only needs thos two files
Feb 27 20:35:53 <NAiL> reprogramming redboot is a Bad Idea
Feb 27 20:36:07 <kitno455> upslug2 -k kenrelimage -j fsimage
Feb 27 20:36:19 <kitno455> s/nr/rn/
Feb 27 20:36:19 <apt> kitno455 meant: upslug2 -k kernelimage -j fsimage
Feb 27 20:36:33 <kitno455> once you have the unit in upgrade mode
Feb 27 20:36:38 <koen> NAiL: someone with write access synced to your db and readded the csets
Feb 27 20:36:39 <kitno455> via the reset button
Feb 27 20:36:49 <NAiL> koen: oh joy
Feb 27 20:36:50 <HopsNBarley> is there a typographic symbol for dunce cap?  ()-;x*
Feb 27 20:37:00 <NAiL> dunce cap?
Feb 27 20:37:03 <kitno455> hahaha
Feb 27 20:37:08 <NAiL> koen: any way to avoid?
Feb 27 20:37:14 <kitno455> NAiL, no dunce cap in trondheim?
Feb 27 20:37:24 <NAiL> wt* is dunce cap?
Feb 27 20:37:32 <eFfeM> NAiL, koen, posted a trace in http://pastebin.ca/43414
Feb 27 20:37:33 <kitno455> big pointy hat
Feb 27 20:37:39 <kitno455> that says 'dunce' on it
Feb 27 20:37:40 <NAiL> haha
Feb 27 20:37:49 <koen> NAiL: tell all people with ppush access to run the script I posted
Feb 27 20:37:51 <kitno455> stupid student has to sit in corner wearing it
Feb 27 20:38:24 <eFfeM> you can see that I did a merge, then a commit, then a make push-openbembedded and now it tells me that there are three heads, two of which are mine!
Feb 27 20:38:54 <eFfeM> btw the monotone interrupted message is because I stopped meld
Feb 27 20:39:08 <HopsNBarley> so, that's me for not reading the upslug2 docs...
Feb 27 20:39:12 <kitno455> <|:-(   duncecap
Feb 27 20:39:21 <NAiL> eFfeM: did you do the fix first?
Feb 27 20:39:22 <HopsNBarley> bingo!
Feb 27 20:39:25 <kitno455> or maybe <:-(
Feb 27 20:39:31 <NAiL> eFfeM: just repeat the fix, then merge
Feb 27 20:40:07 <NAiL> my line is too slow for me to fix the monotone repo now
Feb 27 20:40:42 * NAiL is tempted to add the fix to cron :-P
Feb 27 20:40:54 <NAiL> I think someone might be syncing in cron
Feb 27 20:41:04 <eFfeM> nail, yes
Feb 27 20:42:02 <NAiL> yes?
Feb 27 20:42:06 <NAiL> ah
Feb 27 20:42:08 <NAiL> heh
Feb 27 20:42:15 <NAiL> just repeat it 
Feb 27 20:42:40 <eFfeM> yes to i did the fix first, and yes to repeating it right now
Feb 27 20:42:56 <NAiL> ok, then merge and push
Feb 27 20:43:00 <NAiL> not with the makefile
Feb 27 20:43:21 <eFfeM> that was just in time
Feb 27 20:43:38 <eFfeM> I already merged and just started the push with the makefile
Feb 27 20:43:41 <NAiL> if you do it with the makefile, you have to repeat the fix yet again
Feb 27 20:43:48 <eFfeM> ah, ok
Feb 27 20:43:55 <eFfeM> is the makefile ok after that?
Feb 27 20:43:59 <NAiL> it's not worse than that
Feb 27 20:44:18 <eFfeM> rwhitby, told me to use the makefile if possible as that reduces the chance to mess up
Feb 27 20:44:39 <NAiL> well, kindof. Until the revs are permanently gone, syncing might pull them back to your repo
Feb 27 20:44:44 <NAiL> which is a PITA
Feb 27 20:44:52 <eFfeM> agree
Feb 27 20:45:03 <NAiL> koen: MONOTONE SUCKS! :-P
Feb 27 20:45:09 <koen> NAiL: I just revoked all keys except mine, mickeyl's and yours on ewi, vanille and dominion
Feb 27 20:45:20 <koen> I'll put them back in an hour or so
Feb 27 20:46:27 <koen> NAiL: that reduces the source of reappearing breakage to monotone.nslu2
Feb 27 20:46:37 <NAiL> yeah
Feb 27 20:47:45 <eFfeM> NAiL, pushed my distro change
Feb 27 20:48:01 <eFfeM> [slug@Woonkamer openembedded]$ mt heads
Feb 27 20:48:01 <eFfeM> monotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
Feb 27 20:48:01 <eFfeM> 1aec1a6d3828b8d339ab76e92d1fcbd82c11c885 eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T20:45:37
Feb 27 20:48:05 <eFfeM> so I am happy for now
Feb 27 20:49:26 <NAiL> yes
Feb 27 20:49:34 <NAiL> now, you will be my testsubject
Feb 27 20:50:03 <NAiL> do a make update
Feb 27 20:54:06 <eFfeM> its running
Feb 27 20:54:25 * eFfeM gets an uncanny feeling he doesn't like to be a guinea pig
Feb 27 20:54:45 <NAiL> nah, it's ok ;)
Feb 27 20:55:05 <HopsNBarley> kitno455: wierd, seems like e2fsprogs didn't make it to the image.
Feb 27 20:55:18 <eFfeM> <grin> are you coming over to fix my system if it goofs things up :-)
Feb 27 20:55:32 <NAiL> eFfeM: no merge, I hope?
Feb 27 20:56:03 <eFfeM> no merge, it immediately went to the pull
Feb 27 20:56:19 <NAiL> yeah
Feb 27 20:56:23 <eFfeM> monotone: updated to base revision 1aec1a6d3828b8d339ab76e92d1fcbd82c11c885
Feb 27 20:56:23 <eFfeM> if [ `monotone automate heads org.openembedded.dev | wc -l` != "1" ] ; then \
Feb 27 20:56:23 <eFfeM>   monotone merge -b org.openembedded.dev ; \
Feb 27 20:56:23 <eFfeM> fi
Feb 27 20:56:23 <eFfeM> ( cd optware ; cvs -q update -d -P )
Feb 27 20:56:44 <eFfeM> slug@Woonkamer OpenSlugHead]$ cd open*
Feb 27 20:56:44 <eFfeM> [slug@Woonkamer openembedded]$ mt heads
Feb 27 20:56:44 <eFfeM> monotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
Feb 27 20:56:44 <eFfeM> 1aec1a6d3828b8d339ab76e92d1fcbd82c11c885 eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T20:45:37
Feb 27 20:57:08 <eFfeM> ok, no need to come over right now, but you are still very welcome !
Feb 27 20:57:17 <eFfeM> back in 15 mins
Feb 27 21:15:03 <kitno455> HopsNBarley, did you add it?
Feb 27 21:15:13 <kitno455> via the distro.conf?
Feb 28 03:57:51 <mproctor> Hi, all anyone know how to fix a Unknown symbol xscale_mc_clear_user_page.
Feb 28 06:04:25 <mproctor> anyone here?
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