**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 18 10:59:56 2006 Mar 18 21:16:10 hello Mar 18 21:18:04 hi, did anyone notice that the nudi build fails on file-native ? Mar 18 21:18:56 openslug any good? Mar 18 21:18:58 hehe Mar 18 21:19:23 depends on your skill level and what you intend on using it for Mar 18 21:21:00 VerTeX: asking a Q like this is like asking Bill Gates if Linux is any good ... Mar 18 21:21:24 haha lol i know.. just trying to figure out which is best Mar 18 21:21:43 depends on what you want and your skill level Mar 18 21:22:00 OpenSlug/uCslugC/debianslug requires atleast *some* linux knowledge Mar 18 21:22:07 if you are not very skilled in linux and do not want spectactular things use unslung Mar 18 21:22:25 if you like to tweak and play perhaps openslug is nicest Mar 18 21:22:42 if you are more a std linux user perhaps debianslug is better Mar 18 21:23:00 and of course NAiL's remark holds Mar 18 21:23:14 mainly i'd like to run squid and web server Mar 18 21:23:33 humm Mar 18 21:23:43 the slug is probably not a good squid box Mar 18 21:23:45 can't find much on squid and nlsu2 Mar 18 21:23:47 dunno about squid Mar 18 21:24:01 for a webserver unslung probably suffices Mar 18 21:24:06 using the nlsu2 as transparent proxy would be nice Mar 18 21:24:23 I think there is some other proxy that is a bit more fitting for the slug Mar 18 21:24:43 there is? Mar 18 21:24:49 only know squid on linux Mar 18 21:25:19 There is a bunch of proxies, bu I can't remember anyone atm ;) Mar 18 21:25:41 haha np Mar 18 21:25:55 squid is quite probably a bit big Mar 18 21:25:58 so i should use unslung? Mar 18 21:26:05 gonna attach a 300 gig to is Mar 18 21:26:08 is=it Mar 18 21:26:20 so space shouldn't be a problem Mar 18 21:26:39 no, but ram would be Mar 18 21:26:39 to big for memory ya mean? Mar 18 21:26:42 hmm Mar 18 21:26:56 if you only use disk cache, it should be ... ok Mar 18 21:27:12 i'll just try Mar 18 21:27:15 but my guess is that the slug won't be much faster than using the connction directly Mar 18 21:27:24 (unless you have a really slow connection) Mar 18 21:27:36 need to just ipkg util i read Mar 18 21:27:58 it's in there i think Mar 18 21:28:39 k gonna format the 300 gig.. Mar 18 21:29:58 hmm.. port 1 or 2? Mar 18 21:30:15 on openslug that doesn't matter ;) Mar 18 21:30:21 dunno about unslung Mar 18 21:30:40 hehe.. what are the advantages of openslug? Mar 18 21:31:08 It's a 2.6-kernel, it's barebone Mar 18 21:31:22 there's nothing of the original firmware left Mar 18 21:31:50 sounds nice Mar 18 21:31:57 the only service running on a brand new openslug is ssh Mar 18 21:31:59 same packages? Mar 18 21:32:05 no web, no samba, no nuthin' Mar 18 21:32:10 hmm Mar 18 21:32:23 it uses a different feed Mar 18 21:32:30 with a bunch of packages Mar 18 21:32:59 squid in it? Mar 18 21:33:00 haha Mar 18 21:33:08 naah, don't think so Mar 18 21:33:20 afaik it's not available in unslung either Mar 18 21:34:16 hm,m Mar 18 21:35:47 It's probably available in debianslug though Mar 18 21:35:56 (since it uses debians feed) Mar 18 21:36:13 debainslug any good ? Mar 18 21:36:37 I'm running one OpenSlug and one debianslug. Mar 18 21:36:52 The bad part about debianslug is that it's not compiled for embedded stuff Mar 18 21:37:11 so some pckages are bigger Mar 18 21:37:29 no probs on the memory part Mar 18 21:37:32 ? Mar 18 21:37:51 and debian is compiled with hardfloat, so all floating point maths are handles with exeptions in the kernel Mar 18 21:37:55 (which is really slow) Mar 18 21:38:16 hmm. thats nasty Mar 18 21:38:30 so openslug it's gonna be then Mar 18 21:39:25 then again Mar 18 21:39:55 unslung is newer.. and will be based on the new firmware soon Mar 18 21:41:05 so no big performance diffs between unslung and openlsug Mar 18 21:41:06 ? Mar 18 21:41:26 IIRC, samba is ~1mb/sec faster on openslug Mar 18 21:42:21 really... aha Mar 18 21:42:41 what about development on openslug Mar 18 21:42:48 still alive? Mar 18 21:42:53 yes Mar 18 21:43:14 We're just waiting for 2.6.16 to be released for the new openslug release Mar 18 21:43:27 morn, rwhitby Mar 18 21:43:42 morning. Mar 18 21:44:07 hey rwhitby Mar 18 21:44:39 ah.. birnairy of tarball building? Mar 18 21:44:45 binairy that is Mar 18 21:45:33 VerTeX: what do you mean? Mar 18 21:46:34 should i use the binary or building the tarball Mar 18 21:47:06 well, the binary is easiest Mar 18 21:47:25 the tarball is not quite up-to-date. SVN is though Mar 18 21:47:34 k thanx Mar 18 21:47:46 hey koen Mar 18 21:49:35 guys, the unstable feed does not seem to be updated since march 8, due to file-native, is someone looking into that? Mar 18 21:50:14 not yet Mar 18 21:50:27 I think the nslu2-linux bitbake should've been updated Mar 18 21:50:31 remove the magic file from staging Mar 18 21:50:50 or start a clean build Mar 18 21:51:22 i don't have the problem locally (i did the clean build) but nudi is not getting the build done and so the unstable feed is not updated Mar 18 22:08:55 koen: shouldn't the updated PR version of file-native clean up any previous mess it made? Mar 18 22:09:27 not in staging/ Mar 18 22:09:39 staging/ and cross/ don't get cleaned up (yet) Mar 18 22:09:42 Isn't the premise of PR bumping that you never have to do anything manually? Mar 18 22:10:04 ok, "(yet)" :-) Mar 18 22:10:08 when we manage to put staging under package-management control these problems will go away Mar 18 22:10:14 cool, thx. Mar 18 22:10:52 exactly which file do I need to remove on nudi? Mar 18 22:11:58 /staging/i686-linux/lib/libmagic.* Mar 18 22:12:20 armeb linux probably on nudi Mar 18 22:13:22 slug@nudi:~$ rm -rf */tmp/staging/armeb-linux/lib/libma* Mar 18 22:13:22 slug@nudi:~$ rm -rf */tmp/{work,stamps}/file-native-* Mar 18 22:13:29 done Mar 18 22:14:04 and all your problems should be solved now :) Mar 18 22:15:06 rwhitby: OE also has a working EABI toolchain now Mar 18 22:16:10 * koen wonders how well armeb works out of the box with eabi Mar 18 22:19:48 tnx guys Mar 18 22:27:20 darn Mar 18 23:24:35 koen|sleep: file-native still fails to build. Mar 19 00:16:24 hey, anybody know how to get a virtual address in the boot script? it looks like busy box is truncating my "eth0:1" in /etc/network/interfaces. Mar 19 04:01:54 anybody get gcj working on unslug ? Mar 19 04:03:18 gcj is in Debian for arm, but I've no idea how well it works. But it'll probably be really slow with 32 megs... Mar 19 04:03:33 yeah hehe Mar 19 04:03:40 thanks tbm Mar 19 04:04:23 what's the best way to deal with java 1.4 apps on the slug .. any advice? Mar 19 04:04:35 meaning to run them **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 19 10:59:57 2006