**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 30 10:59:56 2006 Mar 30 14:23:32 hi there Mar 30 14:24:01 i asked it already yesterday but then my internet was blown up... Mar 30 14:24:22 where can i get your kernelpatches for 2.6.15/16 without monotone? Mar 30 14:25:02 by using the snapshot from the repo? Mar 30 14:25:31 or just use monotone Mar 30 14:25:50 is it a cvsrepo? Mar 30 14:26:07 with the static binaries on venge.net and the database snapshots there isn't a valid reason *not* to use monotone Mar 30 14:27:29 hmm sorry, but i dont know what you mean with "database snapshots". Mar 30 14:27:45 currently im a n machine where i cannot install monotone Mar 30 14:27:50 bullshit Mar 30 14:28:06 err.. friendly.. Mar 30 14:28:07 download the static binary from venge.net and run it from your homedir Mar 30 14:28:46 hmm seems as you dont want to beleave me.. Mar 30 14:29:12 well there is no other possibility to get the patches? Mar 30 14:29:46 they are in the openembedded repository Mar 30 14:30:01 the OE website lists a few ways how to get that without monotone Mar 30 14:30:19 unless you alsa can't use the internet on that machine Mar 30 14:30:24 s/also/also/ Mar 30 14:31:53 fx3|chilla: you did try to use the static binaries from venge.net? Mar 30 14:33:30 they are for x86.. Mar 30 14:33:39 ill build it when im at home.... :( Mar 30 14:33:51 x86? Mar 30 14:33:58 strange Mar 30 14:34:05 I'm using one on my powerbook Mar 30 14:34:12 which is a powerpc chip Mar 30 14:34:17 ah Mar 30 14:34:27 the osx bins Mar 30 14:35:09 hmm but actually i asked if there is a way to get the patches without monotone.. and not how i can install some software here on this machine Mar 30 14:35:32 and I said Mar 30 14:35:33 16:31 < koen> by using the snapshot from the repo? Mar 30 14:35:58 which I can augment by Mar 30 14:36:08 by using viewmtn? Mar 30 14:36:14 and Mar 30 14:36:20 by checking the source mirror? Mar 30 14:36:38 and i asked if it is a cvs-repo - and now im surfing on the oe-website Mar 30 14:37:15 didnt know that there is only monotone Mar 30 14:38:05 uhm Mar 30 14:38:14 the kernel patches are being developed in cvs Mar 30 14:40:24 of course, cvs.sf.net is down Mar 30 14:40:44 hrhr Mar 30 15:29:35 wahoo - slug01 lives again!!! Mar 30 15:30:47 Forget JTAG - I got pissed and banged it on the table - and it lives:) Mar 30 15:30:57 uuuuh Mar 30 15:30:59 yes Mar 30 15:31:10 that's the recovery method... Mar 30 15:31:28 Good, anyway ;) Mar 30 15:31:50 I should stick it on the wiki complete with force diagrams to get the perfect bounce... Mar 30 15:31:51 NAiL has copyrighted that recovery method - you now owe him $$$ Mar 30 15:32:07 haha Mar 30 15:32:23 actually, I think it was rwhitby that started the whole "percussion" thingy ;) Mar 30 15:33:03 before I hit make update - you haven't broke anything today right??? Mar 30 15:33:37 nah, the percussion method was only for serializing a slug (IIRC) Mar 30 15:33:41 I'm building the latest and greatest Mar 30 15:34:12 want a race? Mar 30 15:34:28 Well, my laptop isn't very quick Mar 30 15:35:06 Actually, any idea's to get your makefile to use more than one cpu? Mar 30 15:36:08 Kind of frustrating to watch the build flipflopping from one to another... Mar 30 15:39:22 ask in #oe Mar 30 15:41:36 mtb: do you mean just doing bitbake builds? Mar 30 15:45:21 yep Mar 30 15:46:14 put this in whatever/openslug/conf/local.conf: PARALLEL_MAKE="-j2" Mar 30 15:46:44 brill - thanks:) Mar 30 15:47:18 doesn't seem to work for everything, haven't looked into why. probably over-ridden on packages that break with it, just like in gentoo Mar 30 15:47:46 it is Mar 30 15:47:54 some packages do PARALLEL_MAKE = "" Mar 30 15:52:40 cool - flashed and working:) Mar 30 15:58:33 hmmmm. No USB. How is the number in the image name generated? The one I just built is 20060329... Mar 30 16:00:41 NAil - the updates you did yesterday, did that only fix openslug-image, not debianslug-image? Mar 30 16:19:59 unlikely, lemme check Mar 30 16:20:11 2006-03-29, btw Mar 30 16:20:43 are the modules in /lib/modules/2.6.16/ somewhere? Mar 30 16:20:52 (They *should* be) Mar 30 16:25:44 hmmm - now I am getting a "trying 3-way merge" from monotone which is crapping out... Mar 30 16:26:10 *checking* Mar 30 16:26:32 monotone: misuse: you have no private key to make signatures with Mar 30 16:27:18 monotone genkey IIRC. It won't let you commit, but atleast you can merge changes locally Mar 30 16:27:42 I'm pulling now to see what causes it Mar 30 16:28:31 k Mar 30 16:31:09 ok, merged Mar 30 16:31:34 yup same here with a key... Mar 30 16:41:34 debianslug-nslu2-20060329155759.flashdisk.img Mar 30 16:41:46 gah - has no usb on boot Mar 30 16:42:59 does it have modules in /lib/modules? Mar 30 16:43:01 seems to have usb-storage.ko Mar 30 16:43:15 [oue]hci-hcd? Mar 30 16:43:19 in /lib/modules/2.6.16/kernel/drivers/usb Mar 30 16:44:00 host has ehci-hcd.ko ohci-hcd.ko uhci-hcd.ko Mar 30 16:44:10 linuxrc issue? Mar 30 16:44:24 quite possible... have you turnup'ed to disk? Mar 30 16:44:28 argh... Mar 30 16:44:48 I need to get a serial so I can figure out all the intricacies of the boot-process and fix this Mar 30 16:44:59 modprobe usb-storage Mar 30 16:45:03 gives me Mar 30 16:45:14 Module Size Used by Mar 30 16:45:15 usb_storage 25636 0 Mar 30 16:45:15 scsi_mod 67496 1 usb_storage Mar 30 16:45:15 af_packet 18408 0 Mar 30 16:45:15 ixp400_eth 24252 0 Mar 30 16:45:15 ixp400 949156 1 ixp400_eth Mar 30 16:45:45 need ohci-hcd/ehci-hcd/uhci-hcd (Can't remember which), and sd_mod Mar 30 16:46:05 ehci iirc Mar 30 16:46:06 prob uhci Mar 30 16:46:09 heh Mar 30 16:47:17 bingo ehci Mar 30 16:47:29 I have usb:) Mar 30 16:48:27 turnup'ing to disk should add the required lines to linuxrc Mar 30 16:48:34 so that usb actually works when booting to disk Mar 30 16:48:53 ok gotta go. I have a spare serial connector NAil if it would be useful to the project... Mar 30 16:49:46 I have one, just not here Mar 30 16:49:57 k Mar 30 16:50:31 you can see which usb module is needed by looking at dmesg, btw Mar 30 16:54:22 koen: Is depmod already done in the rootfs? Mar 30 16:54:42 or does that need to be done in a firstboot-like thing? Mar 30 16:55:05 * NAiL reprases the question: Does OE do depmod for the modules it puts in the rootfs? Mar 30 16:58:02 it doesn't Mar 30 16:58:19 you could make it do that Mar 30 16:59:19 hmm Mar 30 17:00:20 it [ ! -e /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep ] ; then depmod; done Mar 30 17:00:27 something like that, perhaps Mar 30 17:00:50 s/^it/^if/ Mar 30 17:04:26 * NAiL proposes replacing /linuxrc on the slug Mar 30 17:04:58 Replace it with a script that sets up the basic stuff, then executes another script in boot (which is written by turnup like the current /linuxrc) Mar 30 17:05:11 that'd make initial setup easier Mar 30 17:06:12 * NAiL wonders if he's the only one working on slugos-* nowadays Mar 30 17:09:02 NAiL: that's an area I hardly dare to touch yet, although the other day I added a patch for copypage-xscale or something like that Mar 30 17:55:11 fx3|chilla: ne noch keine zeit (und geld) gehabt Mar 30 17:56:58 NAiL: I plan to get back to slugos dev after I finish other stuff (like uni deadlines ;)) Mar 30 18:01:02 I've got an exam coming up in a month, so I should start reading Mar 30 18:54:21 oops, network hicckup Mar 30 18:54:23 anyway Mar 30 18:54:25 any lcd wizards around by any chance? Mar 30 18:55:13 hd47780? Mar 30 18:56:03 44780 Mar 30 18:56:13 yeah, whatever the number was ;) Mar 30 18:56:22 I know it "somewhat" Mar 30 18:57:19 I can control the display with my own prog, issueing codes like 0xfe 0x38 to init etc, but I have no idea how to get lcdproc to work, the device is with usbserial and ftdi_sio.ko Mar 30 18:57:46 hmm Mar 30 18:57:54 I haven't tried lcdproc actually Mar 30 18:58:14 tried a few options (like crystalfontz and matrixorbital) but to no avail Mar 30 18:58:19 what did you use? Mar 30 18:58:29 I've written my own app Mar 30 18:58:48 I use mine with usbserial and sparkfun's serlcd backpack Mar 30 18:58:53 ah, ok; do you also have to use the 0xfe codes? Mar 30 18:59:00 yes Mar 30 18:59:06 | and 0xfe Mar 30 18:59:10 (iirc) Mar 30 18:59:14 | ? Mar 30 18:59:23 There's two command chars Mar 30 18:59:46 I don't have my docu handy. The "|" one might just be the serlcd thingy Mar 30 18:59:52 stupid irc won't release the nick Mar 30 19:00:27 eFfeM2: nickserv recover, or nickserv ghost Mar 30 19:00:39 got a list with some 0xfe codes and a small perl example, with that I could get something on the screen, needed a while loop to get some delays on my pentium Mar 30 19:00:44 haven't tried on the slug Mar 30 19:01:13 koen: tnx Mar 30 19:02:16 need 40us according to the sheet I have to between chars, and doing a fputc(ch, fled);fllush(fled); in a while caused me to miss some chars sometimes Mar 30 19:02:33 haven't found a way to read a status back or so (if that is possible as well) Mar 30 19:03:54 With the serlcd stuff, I can't read anything back Mar 30 19:04:02 fear this is the same here Mar 30 19:04:09 It's only got three connectors... RX, +5V and GND ;) Mar 30 19:04:31 ok, i have usb, got the pertelian display (mentioned it before) Mar 30 19:04:38 got it yesterday ... Mar 30 19:04:57 read mode is enabled by setting a pin low IIRC Mar 30 19:05:06 then you read from the same pin as you write to Mar 30 19:05:12 eur 67 (ouch) but comes all assembled and with a nice housing) Mar 30 19:05:24 but unless the ftdi thingy supports it, you're SOL Mar 30 19:06:03 NAiL do you know what ${var} holds the path to the man-dir in a .bb file? Mar 30 19:06:27 ah, I'll get around it, need some good code to make micro sleeps , I need 1.64 ms and 40 us Mar 30 19:06:45 EvilDevil: Dunno. It's probably ${localstatedir}/man Mar 30 19:06:48 40u is probably a short sw loop Mar 30 19:08:03 thanks NAiL, i'll try that :) Mar 30 19:08:16 EvilDevil: np Mar 30 19:08:55 but need something better for 1.64 m Mar 30 19:09:31 Thankfully, I don't need those delays Mar 30 19:09:43 the serlcd thingy handles those for me Mar 30 19:10:41 will look into this, could be that I have about the thing Mar 30 19:11:58 NAiL i just inserted a "set" in my do_install in my .bb and built it. All vars are in the log.do_install* :) Mar 30 19:12:26 EvilDevil: nice Mar 30 19:40:26 Ok, I think I'll change /linuxrc to do some basic init-stuff before it exec's /boot/initial Mar 30 19:40:40 it'll make the boot process a bit more manageable Mar 30 19:42:36 errrrrr :) have you ever built apache2 on a slug in 14 minutes? :))) Mar 30 19:42:47 distcc + gentoo-portage rocks! Mar 30 20:06:39 ~seen kitno465 Mar 30 20:06:41 i haven't seen 'kitno465', HopsNBarley Mar 30 20:07:05 ~seen kitno455 Mar 30 20:07:07 kitno455 was last seen on IRC in channel #openslug, 30d 22h 55m 37s ago, saying: 'via the distro.conf?'. Mar 30 20:09:19 NAiL, thanks - obviously i had the numbers wrong. Mar 30 20:09:32 I wasn't quite sure ;) Mar 30 20:09:53 you got it right for somebody Mar 30 20:41:29 anyone tried to build pwc recently? it doesn't do a thing for me whereas I am pretty sure it worked for me in the past Mar 30 20:42:04 i built pwc about 3 weeks ago Mar 30 20:44:37 hm, odd Mar 30 20:44:50 there is also a package Mar 30 20:45:03 maybe it is time again to rebuilt from scratch.... Mar 30 20:45:14 do you mean the .bb package? Mar 30 20:45:38 i tried to built it 1 minute ago, but it failed Mar 30 20:46:07 and i did set up my build env from scratch 4 days ago Mar 30 20:46:46 yes, Mar 30 20:47:05 i tried both the .7 and .9 bb files Mar 30 20:47:26 it used to work in the past so some change in the build env must have broken things Mar 30 20:47:43 * eFfeM is not good in bb files for kernel modules Mar 30 20:47:59 me neither Mar 30 20:48:10 the odd thing is that it is in the unstable feed Mar 30 20:48:14 the ipk file Mar 30 20:48:39 i'm trying to install that one, so I can show my webcam this saturday Mar 30 20:50:00 might not work (different kernel version) Mar 30 20:52:05 the unstable feed should be derived from the head and I upgraded to the latest head last sunday Mar 30 20:52:09 so i think i'm ok Mar 30 20:52:47 well, that should be ok. i thought you were using openslug2.7 (kernel 2.6.12( Mar 30 20:58:01 bleh Mar 30 20:58:09 * koen can't turnup to work Mar 30 20:58:30 s/can't/can't get/ Mar 30 21:04:34 koen how come Mar 30 21:04:44 I have no idea Mar 30 21:05:02 If I knew, I would have fixed it ;) Mar 30 21:05:23 does it change the linuxrc file? Mar 30 21:05:41 I suspect a file on flash isn't closed so pivotroot doesn't work Mar 30 21:05:48 eFfeM: it does Mar 30 21:07:26 hrm Mar 30 21:07:30 had a similar problem once, I instrumented boot/disk to debug it (adding echo statements) Mar 30 21:07:34 the serialport is going funky Mar 30 21:08:13 the pwc from ipkg is 2.6.15, apparently pwc*.bb does not like the .16 kernel Mar 30 21:08:14 that means some soldering and debugging tomorrow Mar 30 21:09:51 time to watch NCIS Mar 30 21:11:11 bedtime for me. Mar 30 21:11:17 cu tomorrow or saturday Mar 30 21:11:23 cu Mar 31 10:22:55 * koen finishes packaging up slug+loft+utils **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 31 10:59:57 2006