**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 24 09:59:58 2006 Apr 24 12:30:00 hi Apr 24 12:30:28 * Jah_ just wanted to know how far we are from 3.x release :) Apr 24 17:24:29 re all Apr 24 18:00:31 yo kitno455 Apr 24 18:00:46 how's it going with the /dev stuff? Apr 24 18:04:04 lo? Apr 24 18:04:43 HopsNBarley, no change yet Apr 24 18:05:27 there are some spinlock changes between 2.6.15 and 2.6.16 that prevent me from just copying files Apr 24 18:06:39 the real issue seems to be that /sys/class/input0 no longer has an /event0/ dir inside it, so udev does not make the /dev/input? Apr 24 18:07:11 i really cant get my head around all the elements involved, so i am kinda stalled. Apr 24 18:09:47 i'm also onthe udev track -though i'm working out boot/raid/root mount issues. Apr 24 18:15:49 HopsNBarley, let me think about usb raid for a sec- Apr 24 18:16:17 redboot loads initrd and kernel from flash Apr 24 18:16:47 then you have two choices- Apr 24 18:17:15 try to get kernel to think mdX is root, or mtdX, then pivot root Apr 24 18:18:08 former means initrd/kernel will have to have everything you need to get usb disks and raid running Apr 24 18:18:33 it also means the system wont boot if disks are missing Apr 24 18:19:03 i would go with the pivot :) Apr 24 18:19:11 that's the path i'm taking (-; Apr 24 18:19:38 raid stuff so far so good. got mirrored now on my slug, and all for 16W operating. Apr 24 18:19:55 16 watts? Apr 24 18:24:39 yeah. cool, eh? Apr 24 18:24:47 <__Tim__> Hi, does anyone know if it's reasonable to build openslug-2.7-beta, but using openslug-kernel-2.6.14-rc2.bb instead of 2.6.12? Apr 24 18:26:38 HopsNBarley, what kind of drives give you 16w? Apr 24 18:26:58 __Tim__, why not build a later openslug? Apr 24 18:28:47 <__Tim__> I tried building 3.6-beta, that flashed ok but wouldn't boot from disk after turnup disk -i. There's not a lot of info about which releases are meant to be usable after 2.7-beta! If you can recommend an svn tag, I'm happy to give it a go?! Apr 24 18:31:50 sorry, i am working from monotone copy. Apr 24 18:32:32 i would try to debug your 3.6 beta issues Apr 24 18:32:47 that can be hard without serial though. Apr 24 18:35:26 <__Tim__> Is the monotone copy generally usable atm? Apr 24 18:36:38 uhh- i have not build HEAD since friday, but my office slug ran it all weekend. only one problem that i see Apr 24 18:37:03 is that there is a problem that prevents the buzzer from working. Apr 24 18:37:13 i am looking at that, but i am no kernel hacker :) Apr 24 18:37:20 <__Tim__> hehe :) Apr 24 18:37:48 <__Tim__> Well I guess it's worth a go! Apr 24 18:38:08 what do you do with your slug? Apr 24 18:38:31 <__Tim__> File server + bittorrent Apr 24 18:38:46 whats the need for 2.6.14? Apr 24 18:38:49 kitno455, the WD Caviar - 800bb specifically. Apr 24 18:38:50 <__Tim__> I'm planning to use it as a wireless bridge once that's working Apr 24 18:39:14 <__Tim__> once the wireless dongle is working that is Apr 24 18:39:17 HopsNBarley, what is your spin-up wattage :) Apr 24 18:39:51 hmm, 800 bb's inside a harddrive case... Apr 24 18:39:54 :) Apr 24 18:39:55 <__Tim__> I'd like to stick with WPA for our lan, and that needs a newer kernel Apr 24 18:39:57 my meter has maybe 3 or even 5 sec resolution, so i've seen a little pop to 20W, but it's always between 13 and 16 when I look at it, operating. Apr 24 18:40:11 it drops to <10 when the drives sleep. Apr 24 18:40:37 the drives are externally powered though, you including those bricks? Apr 24 18:40:37 __Tim__, i'm trying the head right now. Apr 24 18:40:53 <__Tim__> k, thanks! Apr 24 18:40:58 yeah- firing off HEAD now myself Apr 24 18:41:20 either of you keeping your own tree and propogating over using advanced features of monotone? Apr 24 18:41:53 <__Tim__> I need to get a newer monotone first :) Apr 24 18:42:06 i just do a make update. whatever that does :) Apr 24 18:42:12 i'm using 0.25. Apr 24 18:42:40 me too Apr 24 18:42:52 <__Tim__> I have some ancient colinux version of debian, it has 0.24. Apr 24 18:43:27 i really have not read much about MT, i just say pull and update. Apr 24 18:43:41 0.24 and 0.25 use the same network protocol Apr 24 18:43:50 0.25 does use a slightly different database format Apr 24 18:44:44 <__Tim__> I'll figure out how to update it, just in case. Apr 24 18:44:57 its only a single file Apr 24 18:45:24 just download a copy compiled for same cpu and libc as your machine, and overwrite it Apr 24 18:46:17 that does (a) pull - which resyncs the database, then the makefile does (b) monotone update, which syncs your working copy (directories and files) with the database. Apr 24 18:47:27 i've tried a few times and failed, but i'm making another attempt today at making my own branch, since i have some Hops specific stuff to check in. Apr 24 18:47:47 once you do this, you can pull, propogate, and then update your working copy Apr 24 18:48:14 the propogate merges what's in another tree with your tree. it's all very cool. Apr 24 18:51:43 the propogate only works if you have a common parent, right? Apr 24 18:53:28 yeah. Apr 24 18:53:49 how are you handling your local files/diffs? Apr 24 19:24:27 HopsNBarley, my local changes are kept in cvs, with a shell script to merge them into a monotone checkout Apr 24 19:24:37 cool. Apr 24 19:24:59 if the split tree proves too wierd, i'll probably do something like that. Apr 24 19:25:12 i have been using cvs so long i have trouble adjusting :) Apr 24 19:25:32 same here. but after i got the hang of monotone i like it. Apr 24 19:25:39 mostly i want someone else to be able to come along after me and see exactly what i changed Apr 24 19:25:55 having a small cvs checkout makes that easy Apr 24 19:26:07 rather than my own copy of all those .bb files :) Apr 24 19:27:32 <__Tim__> I'm still compiling monotone :) Apr 24 19:28:05 __Tim__, ok, you can download it already compiled Apr 24 19:34:41 <__Tim__> Ah, got the .deb. Damn exe changed it's name to mtn Apr 24 19:34:46 <__Tim__> :) Apr 24 19:35:09 __Tim__: you cannot use monotone 0.26 Apr 24 19:35:37 <__Tim__> ok, thanks Apr 24 19:37:59 <__Tim__> right, sorted! Apr 24 19:38:53 cannot use it yet, to be precise Apr 24 20:18:00 ok, just reflashed slug with ucslugc MT HEAD, but with udev 089 and older 2.6.15.3 Apr 24 20:18:08 now i have a working beep. Apr 24 20:19:20 but it looks like i forgot to build all the ixp modules for the older kernel :) Apr 24 20:19:27 oh well. Apr 24 20:19:37 tomorrow! Apr 25 00:23:03 re all Apr 25 02:01:34 yo kitno455, late night shift? Apr 25 02:57:14 HopsNBarley, adios **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 25 09:59:57 2006