**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 07 02:59:56 2006
Jul 07 12:18:31 <adoom> anyone here get DebianSlug working on hardware from Gateworks besides loft (g2)?  I think he's on vacation
Jul 07 17:26:51 <Kamilion> Howdy. I got the mastermakefile to build me an openslug image, so I've got everything working reasonably properly, and got bitbake to build libusb -- now, my question is, how do I set it up to build my own application that's not in the repositories and link it against libusb?
Jul 07 17:27:16 <Kamilion> it's got a relatively simple makefile
Jul 07 17:27:58 <koen> write a .bb file for it
Jul 07 17:28:21 <Kamilion> okay, where might I find the documentation to do such a thing?
Jul 07 17:29:12 <eFfeM> Kamilion: just peek at some other bb files, if your app is simple you won''t need to provide much
Jul 07 17:29:23 <eFfeM> of course you could also decide to do things natively
Jul 07 17:29:37 <Kamilion> tried that, but ipkg wouldn't install openslug-native
Jul 07 17:29:53 <eFfeM> hm why not?
Jul 07 17:29:58 <Kamilion> probably need to add a feed for it, but I'm not sure the name of it
Jul 07 17:30:08 <Kamilion> just a sec, lemme fire up the slug and pull the error
Jul 07 17:30:24 <Kamilion> also, does the openslug kernel have support for NBDs?
Jul 07 17:30:48 <Kamilion> Couldn't get my swapfile to work over NFS, and I don't have a local USB enclosure for it
Jul 07 17:31:30 <eFfeM> NBD ?
Jul 07 17:31:35 <Kamilion> network block devices
Jul 07 17:31:37 <koen> network block device
Jul 07 17:31:47 <koen> AoE might be an option as well
Jul 07 17:31:50 <eFfeM> ah, don't know. 
Jul 07 17:32:05 <Kamilion> basically exports a loopback filesystem over the network as a full on block device the kernel can mkswap on
Jul 07 17:32:26 <eFfeM> koen, if I were to build binutils 2.17 and then rebuild gcc 4.1.1 with it, should I then be able to build glibc 2.4 ?
Jul 07 17:32:37 <Kamilion> But anyway, that doesn't matter, I can use my PSP as a temp swapdevice
Jul 07 17:33:09 <koen> eFfeM: you'll need gcc-cross-initial and glibc-intermediate first for nptl
Jul 07 17:33:12 <eFfeM> Kamilion: you can also use a flash stick as swap (although maybe after a while it will wear out)
Jul 07 17:33:24 <Kamilion> yeah, my PSP can do that. Gig of swap should be plenty.
Jul 07 17:33:37 <Kamilion> root@SLUG:~# ipkg install openslug-native
Jul 07 17:33:37 <Kamilion> Nothing to be done
Jul 07 17:33:37 <Kamilion> An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Jul 07 17:33:37 <Kamilion> Collected errors:
Jul 07 17:33:37 <Kamilion> Cannot find package openslug-native.
Jul 07 17:33:57 <Kamilion> probably missing a feed, cause I ran ipkg update just before.
Jul 07 17:35:29 <eFfeM> Kamilion: cat /etc/ipkg/*feed*
Jul 07 17:36:14 <eFfeM> the cross feed should read:
Jul 07 17:36:15 <Kamilion> root@SLUG:~# cat /etc/ipkg/*feed*
Jul 07 17:36:15 <Kamilion> src/gz cross http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-bag/cross/3.10-beta
Jul 07 17:36:15 <Kamilion> src/gz native http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-bag/native/3.10-beta
Jul 07 17:36:32 <eFfeM> Kamilion: that's ok
Jul 07 17:38:31 <eFfeM> oh, got it, do ipkg install slugos-native
Jul 07 17:40:48 <Kamilion> ah, lol
Jul 07 17:40:54 <Kamilion> just a sec, lemme swapon
Jul 07 17:42:10 <Kamilion> yeah, that's grabbing.
Jul 07 17:42:30 <eFfeM> good, this is wrong in the wiki, I am correcting it
Jul 07 17:43:16 <Kamilion> Thanks. By the way, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/HomePage is broken too
Jul 07 17:43:35 <Kamilion> The page isn't redirecting properly: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
Jul 07 17:43:36 <eFfeM> yeah, found 12 pages or so that refer to openslug-native
Jul 07 17:44:02 <Kamilion> er
Jul 07 17:44:07 <Kamilion> sorry
Jul 07 17:44:07 <Kamilion> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/HomePage
Jul 07 17:44:10 <Kamilion> That's the broken page
Jul 07 17:44:12 <eFfeM> ? I am using ff and opened the url
Jul 07 17:44:13 <eFfeM> ok
Jul 07 17:44:25 <Kamilion> Didn't copy the right URL, heh
Jul 07 17:44:46 <eFfeM> yeah, that one fails for me as well
Jul 07 17:44:51 <eFfeM> make mental note
Jul 07 17:45:04 <eFfeM> coffee & news, back in 20-30 mins
Jul 07 17:50:40 <Kamilion> Good thing I've got root over NFS, all these perl modules it's grabbing... LOL
Jul 07 18:00:30 <Kamilion> okay, looks like it installed OK.
Jul 07 18:02:55 <Kamilion> root@SLUG:~/usbhostfs_pc# make
Jul 07 18:02:55 <Kamilion> cc -Wall -ggdb -I../usbhostfs -DPC_SIDE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I. -O2  -L.  -L. -o usbhostfs_pc main.o -lusb -lpthread
Jul 07 18:02:55 <Kamilion> /usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../../armeb-linux/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
Jul 07 18:02:55 <Kamilion> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Jul 07 18:02:55 <Kamilion> make: *** [usbhostfs_pc] Error 1
Jul 07 18:03:25 <Kamilion> I'm missing the c runtime?
Jul 07 18:10:32 <eFfeM> i would expect that you get it with openslug-image
Jul 07 18:10:37 <eFfeM> eh slugos-image
Jul 07 18:14:44 <eFfeM> otherwise maybe install glibc separately
Jul 07 18:14:51 <eFfeM> don't know any more how I got there
Jul 07 18:15:34 <Kamilion> k, I'll give that a shot
Jul 07 19:23:12 <Kamilion> okay, I've consulted with some other folks, and they've came to the conclusion that my toolchain's broken.
Jul 07 19:23:27 <Kamilion> ran ipkg install slugos-native
Jul 07 19:24:00 <Kamilion> echo "int main(void) { return 0; }" > test.c && cc -o test.o test.c
Jul 07 19:24:10 <Kamilion> root@SLUG:~/usbhostfs_pc# cc -o test.o test.c
Jul 07 19:24:10 <Kamilion> /usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../../armeb-linux/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
Jul 07 19:24:10 <Kamilion> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Jul 07 20:23:35 <eFfeM-away> Kamilion: I also have your ld problem when compiling natively
Jul 07 20:24:16 <Kamilion> Any fix?
Jul 07 20:24:33 <eFfeM> nope, just tried it a minute ago
Jul 07 20:24:42 <Kamilion> Or alternatively, how might I be able to run make on my crosscompiler built with the master makefile?
Jul 07 20:25:05 <eFfeM> yeah, you can build the crosscompiler using the master makefile
Jul 07 20:25:18 <eFfeM> you'll get it if you do a maken openslug-image
Jul 07 20:25:19 <Kamilion> already built, and made openslug-image
Jul 07 20:25:26 <Kamilion> then made libusb
Jul 07 20:25:35 <eFfeM> then the gcc is in openslug/tmp/cross
Jul 07 20:25:40 <Kamilion> Ahha!
Jul 07 20:25:47 <Kamilion> Do I have to set up any env variables?
Jul 07 20:25:47 <eFfeM> actually crt1 is also there so you could copy that one over
Jul 07 20:26:06 <Kamilion> like cd to the openslug directory and run setup-env there?
Jul 07 20:26:09 <eFfeM> not sure, I did not really build cross w/o bb
Jul 07 20:26:23 <Kamilion> well, this one's all bitbake, it seems
Jul 07 20:26:42 <eFfeM> you can try that, also you might have to add the dir with armeb-linux-gcc to the path
Jul 07 20:27:20 <Kamilion> yeah, I'm trying to build a simple .c file that depends on libusb
Jul 07 20:27:47 <Kamilion> and I don't really know how to write a whole ebuild file for bitbake
Jul 07 20:28:25 <Kamilion> (discovered it was forked off portage ;)
Jul 07 20:31:10 <eFfeM> if you want a small bb file as example look at setpwc
Jul 07 20:38:49 <Kamilion> k
Jul 07 20:39:45 <eFfeM> might have found something, still testing, hang on
Jul 07 20:43:22 <Kamilion> http://415sf.com/usbhostfs.tar.bz2
Jul 07 20:43:23 <eFfeM> Kamilion: do this on your slug
Jul 07 20:43:24 <eFfeM> ipkg install libc6-dev
Jul 07 20:43:28 <Kamilion> that's the code I'm trying to compile
Jul 07 20:43:33 <eFfeM> and you can compile natively
Jul 07 20:43:48 <Kamilion> running now
Jul 07 20:44:46 <eFfeM> i get a linker warning about  interworking but my test exe runs
Jul 07 20:45:49 <Kamilion> cc -Wall -ggdb -I../usbhostfs -DPC_SIDE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I. -O2  -L.  -L. -o usbhostfs_pc main.o -lusb -lpthread
Jul 07 20:45:49 <Kamilion> /usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../../armeb-linux/bin/ld: main.o: Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 3)
Jul 07 20:45:49 <Kamilion> main.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
Jul 07 20:48:14 <eFfeM> file main.o 
Jul 07 20:48:33 <eFfeM> (i am using gcc 4.1.1)
Jul 07 20:48:40 <Kamilion> ....
Jul 07 20:48:41 <Kamilion> main.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
Jul 07 20:48:55 <eFfeM> heh, you got yourself a pc .o file
Jul 07 20:49:09 <eFfeM> note that there is a main.o file in the bz2 you mention above
Jul 07 20:49:15 <eFfeM> rm main.o and rerun make
Jul 07 20:49:35 <Kamilion> holy crap, load of errors
Jul 07 20:49:53 <eFfeM> missing libs and includes ?
Jul 07 20:49:55 <Kamilion> main.c:19:17: usb.h: No such file or directory
Jul 07 20:49:57 <Kamilion> Yep.
Jul 07 20:50:12 <Kamilion> but that at least got it trying to compile.
Jul 07 20:50:29 <Kamilion> lemme pastebin the errorlist
Jul 07 20:50:30 <eFfeM> ipkg install libusb-dev
Jul 07 20:50:34 <Kamilion> orn ot
Jul 07 20:50:36 <eFfeM> and maybe some more lib*dev
Jul 07 20:51:25 <eFfeM> about to call it a day (2310 out here)
Jul 07 20:52:01 <Kamilion> well, it's cranking at the make now
Jul 07 20:52:13 <Kamilion> cc -Wall -ggdb -I../usbhostfs -DPC_SIDE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I. -O2   -c -o main.o main.c
Jul 07 20:52:13 <Kamilion> cc -Wall -ggdb -I../usbhostfs -DPC_SIDE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I. -O2  -L.  -L. -o usbhostfs_pc main.o -lusb -lpthread
Jul 07 20:52:13 <Kamilion> /usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../../armeb-linux/bin/ld: Warning: main.o does not support interworking, whereas usbhostfs_pc does
Jul 07 20:52:19 <Kamilion> Looks like that may have gotten it
Jul 07 20:52:36 <Kamilion> it runs.
Jul 07 20:52:58 <eFfeM> yeah, this has to do with the lib compiled with different options than the main prog, add -mthumb-interwork or so to your CFLAGS
Jul 07 20:53:00 <eFfeM> great
Jul 07 20:53:17 <Kamilion> Thanks so much for your time and effort.
Jul 07 20:53:30 <Kamilion> I really appreciate your help.
Jul 07 20:59:35 <eFfeM> Kamilion: no problem.
Jul 07 20:59:43 <eFfeM> the slug is a source of fun and learning for me
Jul 07 21:00:17 <Kamilion> yeah, same here. Got mine 2 days ago.
Jul 07 21:00:41 <Kamilion> Opneslug's pretty nice. Love how it controls the status LED differently than the stock firmware
Jul 07 21:00:45 <eFfeM> didn't use unix for 15 years or so, started with the slug a year ago and got severely addicted
Jul 07 21:01:03 <Kamilion> hehe, I've been a linux abuser since slackware 1.5 and kernel 1.3.22 ;)
Jul 07 21:01:27 <eFfeM> nice thing is that you can add all kind of usb devices, check out my wiki page (eFfeM)  to see what I have connected
Jul 07 21:01:53 <eFfeM> Kamilion: I already exchanged email with Linus before linux; I used to work on minix for the atari st
Jul 07 21:02:04 <Kamilion> Ahh, another ST user.
Jul 07 21:02:08 <Kamilion> I miss my 1040STF.
Jul 07 21:02:20 <Kamilion> floppy burnt out and needs a replacement power supply.
Jul 07 21:02:22 <eFfeM> yup. still have 2 1040's and a tt030
Jul 07 21:02:28 <Kamilion> mmm, always loved the TTs.
Jul 07 21:02:57 <eFfeM> tt030 monitor doesn't work any more, one ST has been subject to a hw mod (68020 upgrade) and probably does not work any more either
Jul 07 21:03:03 <eFfeM> haven't tried the other one for ages
Jul 07 21:03:04 <Kamilion> I've got a sony Playstation Portable, and I'm trying to get the slug to work as a USB file host for it
Jul 07 21:03:13 <eFfeM> cool
Jul 07 21:03:24 <eFfeM> if you get it running please add a page to the wiki on this
Jul 07 21:03:27 <Kamilion> basically acts as a huge virtual memory stick
Jul 07 21:03:32 <Kamilion> Definitely will.
Jul 07 21:03:37 <eFfeM> great
Jul 07 21:03:39 <Kamilion> Hopefully I'll be able to get it packaged too.
Jul 07 21:04:02 <Kamilion> so it'll be as easy as ipkg install libusb && ipkg install psplink
Jul 07 21:04:03 <eFfeM> otherwise ping me if I'm around and I help you
Jul 07 21:04:13 <eFfeM> actually it can be made simpler
Jul 07 21:04:14 <Kamilion> Appreciate it. Get some sleep. :)
Jul 07 21:04:19 <eFfeM>  ipkg install psplink
Jul 07 21:04:32 <Kamilion> I've got work to do, think it's not properly compiling for bigendian
Jul 07 21:04:35 <eFfeM> you can add a dependency that drags in libusb automatically
Jul 07 21:04:50 <Kamilion> Gonna talk to the dev about that, I think he already added bigendian support, just needs to be ifdef'd on
Jul 07 21:04:53 <eFfeM> good. I'll be online every now and then for the next week after that I'm on holiday for 2 weeks
Jul 07 21:05:09 <eFfeM> i can also help you getting your package in the archive
Jul 07 21:05:14 <Kamilion> Cool.
Jul 07 21:05:22 <Kamilion> I'm sure the devs will appreciate that
Jul 07 21:05:31 <eFfeM> yup
Jul 07 21:05:33 <eFfeM> cu
Jul 07 21:05:36 <Kamilion> once it works on openembedded, there's plenty of stuff it'll work on
Jul 07 21:05:40 <Kamilion> like the asus wl500s
Jul 07 21:05:46 <eFfeM> cool
Jul 07 21:05:58 <Kamilion> Cheers. Sleep well.
Jul 07 21:06:11 <Kamilion> By the by, Amsterdam is really beautiful.
Jul 07 21:06:18 <Kamilion> Love the horticultural gardens.
Jul 07 21:06:34 <Kamilion> visited in march :)
Jul 07 21:06:53 <eFfeM> just saw this: http://usbip.naist.jp/ also cool
Jul 07 21:07:04 <eFfeM> actually I live near the belgian border
Jul 07 21:07:06 <eFfeM> where are you from ?
Jul 07 21:07:11 <Kamilion> California.
Jul 07 21:07:34 <Kamilion> That's america, but without the stupid. ;)
Jul 07 21:07:42 <eFfeM> ah been there several times, mostly work, once holiday, love hwy 1 and yosemite
Jul 07 21:07:46 <Kamilion> yeah.
Jul 07 21:08:05 <Kamilion> nice up north too, humboldt county. Nice redwood forests up there.
Jul 07 21:08:14 <eFfeM> never been there
Jul 07 21:08:21 <eFfeM> check this out if you are interested in where I have been
Jul 07 21:08:22 <eFfeM> http://www.dse.nl/~meulenbr/holiday2000/
Jul 07 21:08:38 <Kamilion> Cool. I'll grok it in a bit
Jul 07 21:08:43 <eFfeM> now really calling it a day, otherwise the wife will become angry ...
Jul 07 21:08:44 <eFfeM> cu
Jul 07 21:08:51 <Kamilion> See yah.
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