**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 20 02:59:57 2006 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 20 03:45:27 2006 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 20 04:20:03 2006 Jul 20 07:06:13 hi! Jul 20 07:06:30 i've just bought a nslu2 and have some questions... Jul 20 07:07:21 i'm about to install debiand and considering the performance and the endianesses. Jul 20 07:08:26 is it possible to choose endian in the arm processor used or how is it possible to have both little and big endian firmwares? Jul 20 07:08:43 and how does this impact performance Jul 20 07:09:00 the kernel can change the endianness early in the boot process Jul 20 07:09:08 i was about to install opendebianslug but read that it was obsolete. Jul 20 07:09:28 so the performance doesn't differ in either mode? Jul 20 07:09:41 theoretically BE is faster Jul 20 07:10:02 how come? Jul 20 07:10:22 no byteswaps needs, etc Jul 20 07:10:29 ah,. Jul 20 07:10:31 ok. Jul 20 07:10:45 but iirc in real life it didn't differ in a significant way Jul 20 07:11:27 ok. Jul 20 07:11:38 is that why opendebian slug is obsolete? Jul 20 07:11:52 or is the official debian dist about to support bigendian arm? Jul 20 07:12:49 no idea, I only use openslug Jul 20 07:13:59 is openslug sufficient? i'm think i will only use the nslu2 as a file server with such related services. Jul 20 07:17:02 it's like debian, but with less packages Jul 20 07:17:14 but all the fileserver stuff should be present Jul 20 07:17:50 uhm,.. Jul 20 07:18:23 well,... i'll use perl... and i guess i'll need additional modules... Jul 20 07:19:05 my backup scripts are written in perl :) Jul 20 07:20:10 how is the overhead on debianslug? does openslug perform better? Jul 20 07:20:28 i guess openslug is a bit more slim. Jul 20 07:22:19 yeah, openslug was built for the nslu2 from the ground up Jul 20 07:22:57 it does have perl, python and other fancy scripting stuff Jul 20 07:23:11 um,.. i guess openslug will cause more work. is it hard to setup a crosscompiling environment and create own packages? Jul 20 07:23:57 i guess compiling on nslu2 is not recommended ;) Jul 20 07:27:49 well.. i'll install openslug first to evaluate. Jul 20 07:28:16 looks like the installation procedure is faster than debianslug Jul 20 07:31:38 you can set up a cross environment (www.openembedded.org) or install a toolchain on your nslu2 Jul 20 07:33:48 i'm impressed with the documentation. it looks like it has gone through several revision where lots of users have broke their nslu2 :) Jul 20 07:34:13 :) Jul 20 07:34:45 it helps to have >4000 user using firmwares from nslu2-linux.org Jul 20 07:35:00 is it common that new users enter this channel and need help restoring their nslu2? (even thou that seems well documented aswell) ;) Jul 20 07:35:33 not really, since this is the developers channel :) Jul 20 07:35:38 ah :o Jul 20 07:35:56 well look at that :) Jul 20 07:36:24 it is even written in the topic :o Jul 20 07:36:32 :) Jul 20 07:37:01 well, i hope my questions isn't to lame then :) Jul 20 07:37:35 nah, we are a friendly bunch Jul 20 07:37:42 but the first thing i'll do then i've installed the openslug is to write a custom webgui for statistics ;) Jul 20 07:37:51 :) Jul 20 07:38:20 is there any nice existing guis of this kind? Jul 20 07:39:32 i know i've looked for one in the past... but developers with graphical skills are hard to find in the linux community (even thou that have changed alot in the last years) and most guis look like crap. Jul 20 07:41:50 I only know of webmin Jul 20 07:42:04 but is has been >5 years since I've used it Jul 20 07:42:07 not an option :) Jul 20 07:42:59 the thing i need is 1. a nice looking gui 2. statistics 3. other crap :) Jul 20 07:43:10 1 and 2 is a must. Jul 20 07:43:29 smart monitoring and such... Jul 20 07:43:33 uhm,.. Jul 20 07:43:39 is smart accessible via usb= Jul 20 07:43:40 ? Jul 20 07:44:06 dont think so Jul 20 07:44:28 Few external drives connected via USB and Firewire correctly send S.M.A.R.T. data over those interfaces. Jul 20 07:44:58 damn! Jul 20 08:38:34 EvilDevil: no, i worked as privileged user, i used the linux based tool now to update the nslu2 Jul 20 08:39:31 hmm, unslug and openslug are working nice but the debian installier does not Jul 20 08:39:52 i need acls on my filesystem so it seems i have to compile openslug manually :/ Jul 20 11:20:34 is it possible to use te unslug packages til openslug? Jul 20 11:21:22 seems like it contains more packages than 3.10 beta. Jul 20 11:22:21 iirc not Jul 20 11:22:31 you can ask packages to get added, though Jul 20 11:22:31 ok Ö- Jul 20 11:23:41 well... then i better start asking. Jul 20 11:24:08 ...and fix my keyboard layout. Jul 20 11:25:05 are packages activly beeing added to openslug from unslug? Jul 20 11:27:15 no, they are seperate distributions Jul 20 11:27:39 you can choose from these: http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages Jul 20 17:39:30 sd 4:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x50000 Jul 20 17:39:30 end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 187 Jul 20 17:39:30 Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 187 Jul 20 17:39:30 lost page write due to I/O error on sda Jul 20 17:39:44 anybody know why openslug has problems with my harddisk? Jul 20 17:47:04 mr_claus_, because the harddisk is defect? Jul 20 17:47:27 EvilDevil: hmm, until now it worked, i will check it Jul 20 17:48:04 mr_claus_, the high temperatures aren't that good for harddisks ;) Jul 20 17:49:07 EvilDevil: it's an old harddisk and not very hot Jul 20 17:51:02 mr_claus_, maybe it's too old and has reached its MTBF Jul 20 17:51:22 EvilDevil: could be :/ Jul 20 17:51:37 EvilDevil: i dont want to use the data disks to store the OS Jul 20 17:51:59 EvilDevil: thats why i choose to use a old small harddisk for the OS and two big ones to handle the data Jul 20 17:52:15 EvilDevil: it seems that a memory stick is to slow to handle the OS Jul 20 17:54:04 hmm, no acl packages in openembedded :( Jul 20 17:55:12 mr_claus_, the memory stick could be faster: random access is much faster than on a harddisk and large continous transfer do not happen that often on the system partition **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 20 19:55:52 2006 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 21 02:59:56 2006