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Aug 09 03:00:04 <jrsup1> is there a specific line number in the nopaste you can point to me
Aug 09 03:00:04 <rwhitby> jrsup1: line 116 for example
Aug 09 03:00:25 <rwhitby> you're not using hyperterminal are you?
Aug 09 03:00:32 <jrsup1> yes
Aug 09 03:00:38 <rwhitby> ah, that explains it
Aug 09 03:00:48 <jrsup1> what should it say?
Aug 09 03:00:59 <jrsup1> I've got RedBoot(tm) boo
Aug 09 03:01:02 <rwhitby> hyperterminal stuff up the log
Aug 09 03:01:17 <rwhitby> you need a real terminal emulator which can log properly
Aug 09 03:01:25 <jrsup1> I don't really have a good prog for that
Aug 09 03:01:28 <jrsup1> any suggestions?
Aug 09 03:02:00 <rwhitby> uCon
Aug 09 03:02:11 <jrsup1> for windows or linux?
Aug 09 03:03:11 <rwhitby> http://www.microcross.com/html/micromonitor.html
Aug 09 03:03:12 <rwhitby> windows
Aug 09 03:03:22 <rwhitby> down the page a bit
Aug 09 03:03:39 <rwhitby> I presumed you wanted windows
Aug 09 03:03:58 <rwhitby> Please add that to the wiki somewhere, so others don't need to deal with HyperTerminal
Aug 09 03:04:09 <jrsup1> yes please...I don't have easy access to the serial port on my linux box, and I've already got all my webpages and chat up on my windows pc
Aug 09 03:04:53 <rwhitby> jrsup1: yep.  same here.  I do my linux development in vmware on an XP laptop
Aug 09 03:05:23 <rwhitby> jrsup1: any reason why you're not giving upslug2 the whole 8MB image file?
Aug 09 03:05:24 <jrsup1> hah...I run ubuntu in microsoft virtual server on my work pc!
Aug 09 03:05:54 <jrsup1> tried that once...I'd have to flash again, but it didnt work either
Aug 09 03:06:04 <jrsup1> I just haven't tried that one with the serial port mod yet
Aug 09 03:11:45 <jrsup1> flashing img now
Aug 09 03:11:56 <mwester> greetings.
Aug 09 03:12:13 <jrsup1> hello
Aug 09 03:12:57 <mwester> Gotta say your approach to the whole NSLU2 hardware and openslug is kinda like learning to pack a parachute on the way down... ;) :-D
Aug 09 03:13:10 <mwester> Talk about jumping in with both feet!
Aug 09 03:13:31 <jrsup1> indeed.
Aug 09 03:14:04 <jrsup1> I just happend upon this golden little device as the EXACT solution I needed when properly modded...unfortunatly I had NO experience in doing this.
Aug 09 03:14:33 <mwester> The mod you've chosen, it seems has very few folks with experience, it seems...
Aug 09 03:14:48 <rwhitby> yep, only one that I know of.
Aug 09 03:14:51 <mwester> (excuse my grammer)
Aug 09 03:14:57 <jrsup1> but I had an engineer for an ex-boss who's helping me w/ the hardware.  and I even had MAX RS232 IC's lying arround from another project
Aug 09 03:15:33 <jrsup1> Yeah, but Allen has been giving me a lot of help.  I'll try and do this again after I get it working and write down the steps and update the wiki
Aug 09 03:17:08 <jrsup1> http://rafb.net/paste/results/q3BvRJ45.html
Aug 09 03:17:14 <jrsup1> that's for flashing the .img file
Aug 09 03:17:40 <rwhitby> mwester: if we delete ufsd from the optware makefile, it should disappear from the Packages file at least - we can leave it in the feeds dir in case someone *really* wants it
Aug 09 03:18:23 <rwhitby> "cpio: invalid option -- p" is the first problem
Aug 09 03:18:29 <mwester> Ok.  Perhaps if none of the optware developers do so, I'll see if I have write access to do it.
Aug 09 03:18:36 <jrsup1> what are these "feeds" I keep seeing?
Aug 09 03:18:49 <rwhitby> "/etc/init.d/rcS: /etc/rcS.d/S55bootmisc.sh: 57: ln: not found" is the second problem
Aug 09 03:19:22 <rwhitby> jrsup1: feeds are the binary package release areas
Aug 09 03:19:32 <rwhitby> ipkg.nslu2-linux.org
Aug 09 03:19:49 <jrsup1> ok...I may need to make use of that later
Aug 09 03:19:59 <rwhitby> jrsup1: is this image compiled from head, or from a stable version?
Aug 09 03:20:03 <jrsup1> need to get my kernel working first I supposed
Aug 09 03:20:52 <jrsup1> I'm not really sure.  I got the mastermakefile and did a 'make openslug-image' I believe
Aug 09 03:21:26 <mwester> As the mapmakers used to say: "Here there be dragons"
Aug 09 03:21:43 <jrsup1> someone else said that the other night
Aug 09 03:22:25 <jrsup1> I dunno.....that's what I interpreted from the wiki.  Unfortunately it's not really built for the linux infants like me
Aug 09 03:22:50 <jrsup1> I have about a 3rd grade linux reading level reading high-school/college material
Aug 09 03:23:00 <jrsup1> ok, maybe 5th grade
Aug 09 03:23:15 <rwhitby> ok, you're building from head, and it looks like head is broken due to OE changes.
Aug 09 03:23:24 <rwhitby> Grab the OpenSlug 3.10 sources, and build from that.
Aug 09 03:23:53 <rwhitby> or, do a "make openslug-3.10-beta" with your current setup should work too
Aug 09 03:24:28 <jrsup1> I have the SlugOS-3.10-beta-source.tar.gz file on my desktop
Aug 09 03:24:40 <jrsup1> should I extract this to a folder somewhere and run....?
Aug 09 03:26:55 <jrsup1> do I just run 'make'?
Aug 09 03:27:10 <mwester> Yep.  The structure it will extract will look very much like the one you've been building up to now.  Run make and see what it says...
Aug 09 03:28:00 <jrsup1> got a SLUGOS: use make DISTRO="<distro>" to initialise
Aug 09 03:28:05 <jrsup1> error1
Aug 09 03:28:35 <mwester> Ok, try make openslug
Aug 09 03:29:15 <jrsup1> going
Aug 09 03:29:57 <mwester> Ok.  This is a static snapshot of the OE repo; the tarball is what built the 3.10 release.  We know that works.
Aug 09 03:30:20 <mwester> So the strategy is to build it with no changes, then flash that into the slug, and verify that it runs correctly.
Aug 09 03:30:46 <jrsup1> yeah...I've installed the .bin available for download...it works anyways
Aug 09 03:30:47 <mwester> Then you'll want to re-apply the kernel changes you need to make to the 3.10 tree, and rebuild from there.
Aug 09 03:31:23 <jrsup1> ok...well, I'll have to let my 900mhz system dog through the bitbake files...it's at 40%
Aug 09 03:32:07 <mwester> Oh ok - I guess that means you're not running a 64 bit CPU then?  (folks have reported problems with kernels too large when built on 64bit CPUs).
Aug 09 03:32:09 <rwhitby> gotta go replace a RAID disk.
Aug 09 03:32:36 <mwester> At least it's RAID!  Later...
Aug 09 03:32:44 <jrsup1> no...i'm running off of a dual proc 933mhz server I got off of ebay
Aug 09 03:33:20 <jrsup1> have fun!....ah good ole RAID...
Aug 09 03:33:57 <mwester> I have one of those too.   Dual PIII system.  When building, I've noticed that it never really uses both CPUs...
Aug 09 03:38:25 <jrsup1> no, it's only one thread
Aug 09 03:39:04 <jrsup1> package automake-native-1.9.3: failed
Aug 09 03:39:54 <jrsup1> oh, looks like I don't have autoconf?
Aug 09 03:41:39 <jrsup1> fixed...running make again
Aug 09 05:34:04 <jrsup1> wow this takes a long time
Aug 09 05:34:13 <jrsup1> well I gotta sign out for the evening
Aug 09 05:34:36 <jrsup1> thanks for the help mwester and rwhitby
Aug 09 05:34:38 <jrsup1> bye
Aug 09 23:58:21 <jrsup1> does anyone know what the difference is between .o and .ko is in kernel drivers / modules?
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