**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 14 02:59:57 2006 Oct 14 03:22:22 g2? Oct 14 03:23:13 <[g2]> anix ?? :) Oct 14 03:23:16 hey buddy Oct 14 03:23:19 so Oct 14 03:23:29 do you mind if i ask you a couple of questions Oct 14 03:23:30 ? Oct 14 03:23:54 i have openslug on my box Oct 14 03:24:21 i just imaged it, i didnt compile it, and i seem to be lackign this module Oct 14 03:24:31 one which i would like to have Oct 14 03:24:45 and i was wondering if you could offer me some insight into what options i have Oct 14 03:34:42 Still there? Oct 14 03:36:06 <[g2]> anix shoot Oct 14 03:36:26 ok Oct 14 03:36:33 <[g2]> anix I'm in a bunch of channels so it helps if you put a [g2] in the line Oct 14 03:36:43 [g2], done, ok Oct 14 03:37:12 [g2] it seems like it doenst come built into openslug Oct 14 03:37:41 [g2] and im wondering how I can get it added, because i would like to play with this module. Do you know what options I have short of building the kernel? Oct 14 03:37:47 <[g2]> anix Ok I can believe it doesn't Oct 14 03:38:12 <[g2]> building the kernel is pretty trivial Oct 14 03:38:22 <[g2]> if you've got a linux box around Oct 14 03:38:59 [g2] now, im relativly new to linux, basically only using it for school a bit. will cygwin do the trick? Oct 14 03:39:06 <[g2]> anix which version of openslug are you using Oct 14 03:39:11 the latest Oct 14 03:39:19 [g2] 3.10 i believe Oct 14 03:39:20 <[g2]> NAiL up ? Oct 14 03:40:19 <[g2]> anix do you have a PC and a USB driver ? Oct 14 03:40:39 [g2] what do you mean by USB dricer? Oct 14 03:40:57 <[g2]> heh... it's getting late... an external USB drive Oct 14 03:41:09 [g2] yeah i do Oct 14 03:41:15 [g2] i was quite confused Oct 14 03:41:22 <[g2]> sorry, my bad Oct 14 03:41:31 [g2] n/p Oct 14 03:42:28 <[g2]> are you planning on having you "openslug" in "production" or is it a test box meaning it can be note in operation 24/7 ? Oct 14 03:43:13 [g2] testbox Oct 14 03:43:27 [g2], but it doesnt really matter to me Oct 14 03:44:23 <[g2]> because I can tell you exactly how to easily build the kernel with your setup Oct 14 03:45:02 <[g2]> it won't be the fastest setup in the world, but it'll be easy and straight forward Oct 14 03:45:20 ok Oct 14 03:45:30 [g2] i would be indebted to you Oct 14 03:45:31 <[g2]> you can boot a Ubuntu Dapper LiveCD and have the USB external drive as your persistent storage device Oct 14 03:45:37 <[g2]> LOL Oct 14 03:46:32 [g2] ok i follow so far Oct 14 03:47:04 <[g2]> add some packages, then dl the master makefile and you can build all the releases if you want Oct 14 03:47:21 <[g2]> you'll needs a little time and lots of disk space Oct 14 03:47:54 <[g2]> or just build the cross compiler (and it's depenencies) and you can build the kernel easily Oct 14 03:48:28 [g2] so, even if i can build the kernel, how exactly do i change it so that i can have the cdc_acm module built? Oct 14 03:48:33 <[g2]> anix btw are you familiar with kmobiletools ? Oct 14 03:48:43 [g2] i have looked at it Oct 14 03:49:05 <[g2]> I've run it from the kubuntu Oct 14 03:49:25 <[g2]> I've got an a780 that runs linux Oct 14 03:49:46 [g2] no way? Oct 14 03:49:50 <[g2]> I'm one of the very early openslug guys Oct 14 03:49:54 <[g2]> way Oct 14 03:50:05 <[g2]> I've been tracking #openezx Oct 14 03:50:14 [g2] thats pretty impressive Oct 14 03:50:25 <[g2]> I've booted a 2.6 kernel from TF on the phone Oct 14 03:50:33 [g2] what is #openezx? Oct 14 03:50:57 <[g2]> wel the rootfs is on TF the kernel gets loaded over usb via ..... Oct 14 03:51:23 <[g2]> cdc_acm :) Oct 14 03:51:49 [g2] hahahah, good to know Oct 14 03:52:08 <[g2]> http://www.openezx.org/ Oct 14 03:52:09 [g2] so can i ask you some more simple questions? Oct 14 03:52:17 <[g2]> sure Oct 14 03:53:46 [g2] so your suggested procedure involves me downloading the kubuntu cd and booting my pc via the usb stick. from there you are suggesting that i add some packages and compile the kernel? Oct 14 03:54:44 <[g2]> anix dl kubuntu/ubuntu (k if you want to play with the kmobiletools from the PC) Oct 14 03:54:54 [g2] oh ok Oct 14 03:55:03 <[g2]> 2) you'll want to create a special partition on an external HD Oct 14 03:55:14 [g2] yeah makes sense Oct 14 03:55:24 [g2] what if i want the module for my slug? Oct 14 03:55:25 <[g2]> it's an ext3 partition with a special block size and label Oct 14 03:55:46 [g2] partition magic should work from windows right? Oct 14 03:56:21 <[g2]> anix you can create the partition on the external USB driver from the LiveCD Oct 14 03:56:31 <[g2]> or partition magic Oct 14 03:56:37 [g2] oh ok, fair enough Oct 14 03:56:41 <[g2]> you just need another partition Oct 14 03:57:04 [g2] now, i am gonna take you up on your offer for kmobiletools Oct 14 03:57:30 [g2] but, if i want to further get the module for the slug, do you have any resources i should look at? Oct 14 03:57:37 <[g2]> then when you boot with the LiveCD you can add on option to use the USB drive as the persistant home storage device Oct 14 03:57:44 yeah Oct 14 03:57:57 [g2] that makes sense Oct 14 03:58:23 <[g2]> with a persistent storage you can add the extra utilities you need to run the master makefile Oct 14 03:58:36 <[g2]> that'll build everything the tools and your kernel Oct 14 03:58:47 <[g2]> rootfs if you want too and all the packages Oct 14 03:59:22 <[g2]> _now_ you'll be in a position to change the kernel config and build cdc_acm module Oct 14 03:59:56 [g2] and i definatly get the feeling that it is much easier said than done Oct 14 03:59:59 <[g2]> it really depends on what you are looking to do in the short term Oct 14 04:00:23 <[g2]> anix I've been doing this for nearly 2.5 years with nslu2-linux Oct 14 04:00:42 <[g2]> since july '04 Oct 14 04:00:45 [g2] i want to load htis module onto my slug, but playing with it in ubuntu, orwith kmobile is a benefit Oct 14 04:01:04 [g2] i think its fair to say that i mean difficult for me Oct 14 04:01:27 <[g2]> we've made the process pretty painless for everyone Oct 14 04:01:35 [g2] the very fact you run your a780 on linux Oct 14 04:01:48 [g2] says to me your a man that knows what he is doing Oct 14 04:01:51 <[g2]> well the a780 ships with linux Oct 14 04:01:57 [g2] yeah, Oct 14 04:02:13 [g2] so do a couple other motorola ones too right? Oct 14 04:02:23 <[g2]> I haven't really run windows since '03 Oct 14 04:02:32 <[g2]> or actually '02 Oct 14 04:02:37 [g2] i thought they just locked it down, similar to the slug Oct 14 04:02:43 really? Oct 14 04:02:48 <[g2]> actuallly they are opening it up Oct 14 04:02:59 i used to work for ms, their windows mobile pisses me off Oct 14 04:03:24 <[g2]> anix hope you were in very early and are a zillionaire now Oct 14 04:03:28 nope Oct 14 04:03:39 <[g2]> ok just a millionaire then Oct 14 04:03:42 nope Oct 14 04:03:46 starving student Oct 14 04:04:09 <[g2]> what are you studying ? Oct 14 04:04:11 a very cold starving student at that, its pretty cold in toronto Oct 14 04:04:17 electrical engineering Oct 14 04:04:28 <[g2]> eh the great white north :) Oct 14 04:04:32 hahahaha Oct 14 04:04:38 <[g2]> Hoser Oct 14 04:04:39 what are you talking aboot? Oct 14 04:04:58 how bout you g2, where are you located? Oct 14 04:05:07 <[g2]> Near Raleigh NC Oct 14 04:05:19 <[g2]> I'm a "southerner" Oct 14 04:05:33 <[g2]> I'll bet it's cold up there now Oct 14 04:05:40 <[g2]> it's like 41F here Oct 14 04:05:49 ahhhh, yeah well i met some people from SC this summer, they seem to think NC is not the south Oct 14 04:06:04 <[g2]> it's _all_ relative Oct 14 04:06:09 very true Oct 14 04:06:26 <[g2]> ppl in the islands think Miami is North Oct 14 04:06:55 <[g2]> so are you doing layout and designs yet ? Oct 14 04:07:05 <[g2]> CPLD/FPGA programming ? Oct 14 04:07:23 i have done fpga programming Oct 14 04:07:24 but Oct 14 04:07:31 im more the powersystem/control system side of EE Oct 14 04:07:49 <[g2]> oh you mean analog / power ? Oct 14 04:07:50 yeah Oct 14 04:08:01 <[g2]> excellent Oct 14 04:08:19 its not bad, i like coding, and i like doing neat stuff like this Oct 14 04:08:19 <[g2]> I've been looking for a guy like that Oct 14 04:08:20 oh yeah? Oct 14 04:08:25 for what? Oct 14 04:08:50 <[g2]> building product. What every good engineer should be interested in :) Oct 14 04:09:07 your an engineer? Oct 14 04:09:13 ce? Oct 14 04:09:21 <[g2]> ce ? Oct 14 04:09:25 <[g2]> computer ? Oct 14 04:09:26 computer engineer? Oct 14 04:09:51 <[g2]> my degree is in computer science (systems programming) Oct 14 04:10:01 <[g2]> I have my own company now (me) Oct 14 04:10:08 sweeet Oct 14 04:10:08 what do you do? Oct 14 04:10:26 <[g2]> I had an IXP425 board built Oct 14 04:10:44 <[g2]> but now I'm doing smaller stuff Oct 14 04:11:28 oh wow, network processor stuff eh? thats very cool Oct 14 04:12:08 <[g2]> I'm moving ISP providers this weekend Oct 14 04:12:25 <[g2]> My old ISP provider botched things up I think Oct 14 04:12:26 from who to who? Oct 14 04:12:41 <[g2]> Speakeasy to a hosted solution Oct 14 04:12:49 <[g2]> I'm ditching my T1 Oct 14 04:12:55 ah i see, wowza Oct 14 04:13:22 <[g2]> hosted is like 1/5 the cost and nearly 5X the BW Oct 14 04:13:41 <[g2]> so it's nearly a 25x price/performance gain Oct 14 04:14:00 jeez, thats pretty darn good Oct 14 04:14:21 <[g2]> well see how the new service works out Oct 14 04:14:49 back in 1 sec Oct 14 04:15:08 <[g2]> I was very happy with Speakeasy (except for the pricing) but they were the lowest for the T1 service by far Oct 14 04:30:08 how much was hosting on speakeasy? Oct 14 04:31:38 <[g2]> anix I didn't have hosting on speakeasy I just had a T1 Oct 14 04:32:18 <[g2]> I did all my own host (actually on a nslu2 and my board Loft) Oct 14 04:32:40 oh I see Oct 14 04:33:33 and now who is hosting it? Oct 14 08:59:18 [g2]: up now. Party last night :-P Oct 14 10:55:03 <[g2]> NAiL hoie you had fun Oct 14 10:55:09 <[g2]> hope **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 15 02:59:57 2006