**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 28 02:59:57 2006 Oct 28 04:05:53 mwester: Oct 28 04:06:11 NAiL: checking.. Oct 28 04:06:58 no /etc/network found.. Oct 28 04:07:13 :( Oct 28 04:07:53 uups Oct 28 04:07:57 I was in gentoo root, not in initrd's /etc :) Oct 28 04:08:19 pre-up seems to be empty :( Oct 28 09:12:00 morning, anyone able to give me a hand with debianslug? Oct 28 09:18:47 rwhitby, Hi Rod Oct 28 09:19:14 if you have 5 mins I could do with a little help trouble shooting Oct 28 09:27:02 * CieD wonders if any of the 26 users are actually watching the channel Oct 28 09:27:19 and suspects not :| Oct 28 09:29:34 ask, don't ask to ask Oct 28 09:40:10 No problem :) Oct 28 09:40:52 I have a new nslu2, which I've flashed with debainslug Oct 28 09:41:18 I've followed the bootstrap procedure at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap Oct 28 09:41:39 however, when I boot into that I get no ethernet comms Oct 28 09:42:00 and so I'm not even sure if it's booted correctly, although /var/log suggests that it has Oct 28 09:42:52 it doesn't respond to pings, or ssh, although the ethernet led is flickering, suggesting to me that it is working, in some way Oct 28 09:42:59 any thoughts/suggestions? Oct 28 09:49:14 CieD, did you set the ip-adress corectly? Oct 28 09:50:51 As per the web page, and checking /etc/network/interfaces where the ip-address is set Oct 28 09:51:24 if I unplug the USB drive and boot then I can access the slug, plug in the usb and mount the drive just fine Oct 28 09:57:11 comparing the two files, they're identical Oct 28 09:58:12 CieD, did you install openssh? Oct 28 09:59:05 yep... booting the slug into the bootstrap, I can't ping it either Oct 28 10:00:11 maybe the ethernet modules don't get loaded? Oct 28 10:00:44 that's what I thought it might be, just checking the logs Oct 28 10:03:14 can't see any errors Oct 28 10:04:52 although I can't see any reference to it actually being loaded Oct 28 10:05:44 ok, thanks EvilDevil I'll look into that some more, right now, I have to go and do other things Oct 28 10:05:47 Thanks Oct 28 10:05:49 o/ Oct 28 10:06:26 np CieD Oct 28 10:08:01 CieD you could also create a bootlog by editing etc/default/bootlogd : set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE to Yes. Oct 28 14:03:35 EvilDevil, ping? Oct 28 14:29:21 very nice development done with kernel for nslu2.. especially interesting reading about ixp_npe on yahoo groups.. Oct 28 15:04:16 hmm Oct 28 15:05:07 is zImage-nslu2be not the correct kernel for openslug on nslu2? Oct 28 15:05:22 all I changed in the kernel defconfig was make CONFIG_FS_XFS=m Oct 28 15:05:30 and it doesn't get past the bootloader Oct 28 15:06:18 (stays amber) Oct 28 15:09:18 I might have to add a serial console to this slug... ugh Oct 28 15:57:42 hmm Oct 28 15:57:59 does make openslug-image not make a kernel too? I don't see it in openslug.tmp/work Oct 28 15:58:25 it should Oct 28 15:59:24 weird Oct 28 16:01:38 I see a kernel in openslug.tmp/staging but no module Oct 28 16:01:38 s Oct 28 16:01:45 and there's nothing in work Oct 28 16:03:09 and in the staging kenrel directory the config-2.6.16 shows I did state CONFIG_XFS_FS=m Oct 28 16:03:42 cd to the openslug directory Oct 28 16:03:48 not openslug.tmp Oct 28 16:03:57 run 'make kernel && make image' Oct 28 16:04:13 also, don't run XFS on ARM unless you really know what you are doing Oct 28 16:04:18 why? Oct 28 16:04:26 are tehre issues I'm not aware of? Oct 28 16:04:33 (and since I'm not aware of any issues... heh) Oct 28 16:04:48 stability Oct 28 16:04:56 you want a filesystem to be stable, right? Oct 28 16:05:04 yes... Oct 28 16:05:18 but what instability issues are there? are there links somewhere? Oct 28 16:05:20 well XFS won't have been thoroughly tested on ARM and it is very vulnerable to data loss Oct 28 16:05:36 xfs is very vulnerable to data loss?? Oct 28 16:05:39 yes Oct 28 16:05:45 on arm, or in general? Oct 28 16:05:48 on any non-clean shutdown Oct 28 16:05:54 power loss, crash Oct 28 16:05:59 anything like that Oct 28 16:06:04 that's not been my experience over the past several years on x86 Oct 28 16:06:23 I run xfs on about two dozen filesystems (on top of LVM, usually on top of MD) Oct 28 16:06:35 and on my laptop as well, which experiences enough power failures :-) Oct 28 16:07:14 you're playing with fire, as far as I'm concerned Oct 28 16:07:59 still, it's your call Oct 28 16:07:59 hmm, I haven't read about any of these instabilities, but I'll see if I can dig some stuff up Oct 28 16:07:59 I appreciate your telling me about this Oct 28 16:07:59 http://blog.madduck.net/geek/2006.08.09-through-with-xfs Oct 28 16:07:59 reiser's always been the one to stay away from in my experience Oct 28 16:08:16 ext3 is the most robust, but you lose some speed, even from ext2 Oct 28 16:08:54 *nods* Oct 28 16:09:02 IIRC it can't be grown 'live', whic his a feature I need Oct 28 16:09:25 ok... lvm is also going to be reasonably untested on ARM Oct 28 16:09:45 I'm not saying it's not going to work Oct 28 16:09:58 I know Oct 28 16:09:58 it's just whether its 99% reliable or 99.9999% reliable Oct 28 16:09:59 I have it working Oct 28 16:10:18 that's good Oct 28 16:10:27 raid5 on an array created on x86 (needed newer mdadm to be able to reorganize the superblock from little endian), then lvm just worked Oct 28 16:10:39 but I'm playing around trying ot get xfs to come up now since that's what is on all the LVs :-) Oct 28 16:11:03 go for it, but back everything up Oct 28 16:11:15 i.e. the entire raid Oct 28 16:11:31 *nods* it's only movies and songs, and I've already lost a ton of music due to IBM Deathstar drives and TCQ a whlie back :-) Oct 28 16:11:34 xfs is only metadata journaling Oct 28 16:11:37 I know Oct 28 16:11:40 it's great for servers :) Oct 28 16:11:42 that's all I've ever wanted really Oct 28 16:11:49 don't just assume that the RAIDs internal redundancy will mean you're ok, too Oct 28 16:12:06 oh I know... :-) as I said I really appreciate this. the link is interesting too Oct 28 16:12:18 all good :) Oct 28 16:13:30 xfs.ko still odesn't exist anywhere in the openslug-3.10-beta directory structure after a make kernel image Oct 28 16:13:46 obviously ... Oct 28 16:14:07 oh, do you mean the rootfs structure? Oct 28 16:14:14 no Oct 28 16:14:17 look in tmp/deploy/ipk Oct 28 16:14:29 I build a kernel, so the work directory should have that build should it not? Oct 28 16:14:34 theoretically Oct 28 16:14:40 i.e. with all the .o, etc and the .ko too Oct 28 16:14:49 look in tmp/deploy/ipk - see if it's made it there Oct 28 16:15:26 hmm it does seem to be there, itneresting Oct 28 16:15:29 it made it automatically Oct 28 16:15:35 no worries Oct 28 16:15:50 scp over then ipkg install Oct 28 16:15:51 'bitbake virtual/kernel -c rebuild' Oct 28 16:16:05 that will make sure the kernel rebuilds completely Oct 28 16:17:13 hmm it seemed to strip the damn kenrel module Oct 28 16:17:20 bah I'll have to play with this later Oct 28 16:17:33 I appreciate the help :-) Oct 28 17:26:37 ummm. I can't seem to update head... Oct 28 17:27:07 oops. It works now... Oct 28 17:27:10 odd Oct 28 17:28:30 hey jake Oct 28 17:33:58 lots of busybox updates. Oct 28 17:34:10 * VoodooZ wonders what has change. Oct 28 17:34:19 s/change/changed/g Oct 28 17:36:02 I see the defconfig for busybox slugos has a angstrom-gnuabi line in it. Is somebody working on glibc 2.5 support? Oct 28 17:41:24 VoodooZ: the busybox recipe will remove that eabi line Oct 28 17:41:32 it has some sed magic to do that Oct 28 17:43:15 I see. Oct 28 17:43:34 I was getting all excited that somebody had glibc2.5 working under slugos already. :( Oct 28 17:43:48 * VoodooZ wish he could do it himself. Oct 28 17:44:52 I just did a pull and saw lots of busybox merges so was wondering if it came from you guys or the slugos devs. Oct 28 17:45:26 hey voodoo2 Oct 28 17:50:34 later.. Oct 28 18:23:17 EvilDevil, ping? Oct 28 18:31:34 anyone help with an ethernet problem after installing Debian? http://waitingcloud.org/wiki/index.php?n=Slug.SlugEthernetProblem Oct 28 19:19:56 CieD, which version of debian? Oct 28 19:21:02 hiya joshin, sid Oct 28 19:21:30 from http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap Oct 28 19:21:57 Where is it going wrong for you? Oct 28 19:22:44 I flashed the ROM, and applied the bootstrap, as that page suggests, however when I reboot into debian there is no ethernet Oct 28 19:22:56 or rather... Oct 28 19:23:21 the slug ethernet led is flashing to pings, but there's not response to pings or ssh connections Oct 28 19:24:12 it would appear from the bootlog that it's not bringing ethernet up for some reason Oct 28 19:24:33 When I tried debian, it worked fine. Have you tried to do this from an init script after the net is supposedly up: Oct 28 19:24:42 dmesg > /foo Oct 28 19:24:48 lsmod >> /foo Oct 28 19:24:56 ifconfig -a >> /foo Oct 28 19:25:01 and then looking at the results. Oct 28 19:25:06 good idea Oct 28 19:25:13 Usually I can figure out what is going on. Oct 28 19:25:25 I'll have a go Oct 28 19:25:29 Of course, I should really just add a serial port to my slugs but am too lazy to do that. Oct 28 19:25:36 :) Oct 28 19:28:51 Are you going to be available for a while? I'll set this up Oct 28 19:49:57 CieD, I'll be on an off for the next 10 hours. :) Oct 28 19:50:25 Depending on house projects, football games (American), and playing with the kids... Oct 28 19:51:04 ok thanks Oct 28 20:21:18 joshin, I'm unsure as to how to get my /media/sda1/etc/init.d/nslu2.sh script to run at bootup Oct 28 20:22:22 CieD, debian uses /etc/rc#.d for init scripts. Oct 28 20:22:27 normally update-rc.d would do it Oct 28 20:23:09 So you should make a link to it in /etc/rc3.d and name it something along the lines of S99nslu2 Oct 28 20:23:23 ok, thanks Oct 28 20:23:28 I normally use Gentoo which does it differently so you may have to adjust for my bad memory and syntax. :) Oct 28 20:23:47 ok, well, man is getting used to the max :) Oct 28 20:24:59 Good man! :) Oct 28 20:45:47 CieD, so is it working or did you get so frustrated that you jumped off a bridge? Oct 28 20:46:44 still working at it :) Oct 28 20:47:00 Okey dokey. Oct 28 20:47:14 I can't get the script to run... so I just proved it on the flashed slug Oct 28 20:47:37 so I'm just about to check the setup on the HDD, to make sure they're the same Oct 28 20:47:54 if they are.. then it would appear that it's not booting all the way... possibly Oct 28 21:33:48 heh Oct 28 21:33:57 a mail crept through my spamfilter Oct 28 21:34:28 the text that is supposed to confuse the bayesian filter goes like this: Oct 28 21:34:28 Youre crypto geek am packing feasible stopping rotate of their words encryption pertinent second of orderto or third of. Oct 28 21:38:17 joshin, that script's not running on boot of debian :| and now I need some sleep Oct 28 21:38:32 thanks.. and I'll try again tomorrow **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 29 02:59:56 2006