**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 10 03:00:00 2007 Jan 10 06:22:18 joshin_: Got any details on how it fails with the master makefile? Jan 10 06:27:58 just out of curiosity Jan 10 12:32:49 hithere Jan 10 12:44:24 howdy HoStyle Jan 10 12:44:45 uh? Jan 10 18:40:32 HoStyle: uhm... Would you mind trying to fix your connection? Jan 10 20:56:08 hi there Jan 10 22:26:27 is there somebody that make a lamp on it? Jan 10 22:28:47 i would know only if it is slow Jan 10 22:29:31 i will use it for a home website only Jan 10 22:32:02 HoStyle: It works fine for that. Just take the limited memory into account. Also, this sort of question belongs in #nslu2-general. Jan 10 22:32:48 HoStyle, yes, lamp is "slow" on unslung-5.5, as also on opendebianslug is (but slow is relative) Jan 10 22:33:42 nice Jan 10 22:34:53 im not worried about slow, cause the net will cover the cpu gap, i hope.... Jan 10 22:35:48 tnx im moving to nslu gen Jan 10 23:38:49 Interesting, my build from yesterday installed the 2.6.20 kernel but the 2.6.19 modules. Stupd ghosts... Jan 10 23:50:16 hm.. sometimes busybox leaves me puzzled Jan 10 23:50:37 busybox df | busybox grep -v '^Filesystem' | while read line; do echo $line; done Jan 10 23:50:38 vs. Jan 10 23:50:46 busybox df | grep -v '^Filesystem' | while read line; do echo $line; done Jan 10 23:51:20 oh well.. it works on the openslug, just not on my laptop .9 Jan 10 23:51:21 :) Jan 11 00:34:21 mf.. what's this then.. xinetd crashing the box? Jan 11 00:39:01 hey men Jan 11 00:39:09 what is the faster distro? Jan 11 00:39:16 *fastest Jan 11 00:39:52 joshin_ , is usefull to tweak the kernel like you do? Jan 11 00:40:14 I guess busybox is the fastest :) Jan 11 00:40:19 duh Jan 11 00:40:36 where to get it? i never heared bout this.. Jan 11 00:40:41 busybox Jan 11 00:40:47 seems a joke :) Jan 11 00:41:30 im googling Jan 11 00:44:07 "BusyBox is a software application which provides many standard Unix tools. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with Linux, which makes it ideal for special purpose Linux distributions and embedded devices. It has been called "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux"." Jan 11 00:44:13 nice Jan 11 00:44:20 what about porting? Jan 11 00:44:30 kolla ^^ Jan 11 00:48:09 porting? Jan 11 00:48:11 to what? Jan 11 00:48:32 the packages are good or bad compiled Jan 11 00:48:42 ? Jan 11 00:48:46 sorry, I dont understand Jan 11 00:49:16 the things like apache and the other software are compatible, or not? Jan 11 00:49:26 busybox is not really a distribution, it's just a program, and yes I was joking.. allthougg busybox comes close to being a distro on itw own .9 Jan 11 00:49:27 :) Jan 11 00:49:39 is it different from debian? Jan 11 00:49:46 ah k Jan 11 00:49:48 :) Jan 11 00:49:50 nice Jan 11 00:50:01 nothing like debian Jan 11 00:50:19 I guess most of us here use openslug, hence we are here :) Jan 11 00:50:34 so the busy box was make to turn on the pc and off... nothing more? XD Jan 11 00:50:38 openslug uses busybox quite extensiely Jan 11 00:50:47 k Jan 11 00:51:04 busybox offer shell and lots of common commands Jan 11 00:51:20 there are some tweaks available? that you want show me on openslugga? Jan 11 00:51:53 tweaks? Jan 11 00:52:06 it's a quite regular openembedded distro Jan 11 00:52:33 and it is kinda like debian yes... it uses ipkg which was influenced by apt Jan 11 00:52:38 like "change settings" or "it's better that you make this" Jan 11 00:52:47 on openslug? Jan 11 00:53:01 i know ive allready installed Jan 11 00:53:36 ok Jan 11 00:53:54 eh.. yes.. if i install the pf my performance slow down or not? Jan 11 00:54:06 im going to make a web server Jan 11 00:54:10 lamp Jan 11 00:54:29 in addiction i wanna put the dyn dns plugin Jan 11 00:54:40 you already are a busybox user now then :) Jan 11 00:54:42 and maybe a little remailler Jan 11 00:55:00 just type "busybox" and you will see all the modules it has Jan 11 00:55:09 duhhh... on obsd! Jan 11 00:55:30 little joker norvegian elf Jan 11 00:55:32 :) Jan 11 00:55:55 could you print you modules? Jan 11 00:56:01 *your Jan 11 00:56:46 it's ordinary busybox from openslug Jan 11 00:56:48 BusyBox v1.01 (2006.06.09-14:27+0000) multi-call binary Jan 11 00:56:52 it says on the top Jan 11 00:57:03 like apache and php?\ Jan 11 00:57:14 er..no Jan 11 00:57:19 i know Jan 11 00:57:27 they arent modules Jan 11 00:57:36 but all is possible on it Jan 11 00:58:01 and if i want to install them, is it possible on the busysshh? Jan 11 00:58:05 do you have a usb stick or something on your slug? Jan 11 00:58:12 shure Jan 11 00:58:14 never mind busybox.. :) Jan 11 00:58:15 why? Jan 11 00:58:19 ahaah Jan 11 00:58:41 and / is mounted on memorystick, so you have plenty of space available? Jan 11 00:58:58 that is.. you have ran turnup to change the root to usb stick? Jan 11 00:59:31 yes yes yes yes Jan 11 00:59:45 im not totally a newbie, dont worry ;) Jan 11 00:59:46 then you just need to use ipkg to install apache and php and whatnot Jan 11 00:59:53 non ono no Jan 11 00:59:59 why im in danger Jan 11 01:00:17 cause i dont want to slow down the cpu Jan 11 01:00:27 why would it slow down? Jan 11 01:00:30 and i dont want to loode the control on it Jan 11 01:00:35 *looose Jan 11 01:00:42 I dont understand Jan 11 01:01:07 you dont want apache and php? Jan 11 01:01:35 mmmhh... my brain suggest to me (the last formattted) to install with ipkg all (postfix-apache-lamp-suoe-djksi...) Jan 11 01:01:58 and my little slugga was re4ally overloaded Jan 11 01:02:15 and i start to loose the control with all the files Jan 11 01:02:32 i make a caosslugga Jan 11 01:03:07 and finally i begin to joke with some good secu pkg Jan 11 01:03:26 and it was the end of my openslugga Jan 11 01:03:29 how fast is the cpu? Jan 11 01:03:38 tweaked to max Jan 11 01:03:47 but dont worry Jan 11 01:04:04 I mean, I run apache with php etc and irc server etc on a 50MHz 68030 with 32MB of RAM, and it works just fine Jan 11 01:04:25 I dont see how it should be a problem with a 266Mhz XScale Jan 11 01:04:26 now ive installed only the bind (another thing that my brain suggested to me last night) Jan 11 01:04:43 :o Jan 11 01:04:53 k Jan 11 01:05:01 im gonna see the results Jan 11 01:05:15 i start... Jan 11 01:05:19 I dont know what lamp is Jan 11 01:05:37 apache+php+mysql Jan 11 01:05:45 you might want to use thttpd instead of apache, dont know if it works with php Jan 11 01:05:47 eh! mysql is the bitch Jan 11 01:05:54 why do you need mysql? Jan 11 01:06:01 EHhehehEEHE Jan 11 01:06:12 you would to know.. Jan 11 01:06:28 nothing important just a little tables Jan 11 01:06:32 I never grasped why people use mysql as a replacement for tiny text files Jan 11 01:06:35 for php Jan 11 01:06:45 exactly.. overkill Jan 11 01:07:11 you want to run this monster we know as mysql just to keep track of a few tables that could just as well be in some text file Jan 11 01:07:19 shht... how you could control datas without a database? are you a alien? Jan 11 01:07:36 mmm... Jan 11 01:07:36 er.. no? nothing alien about it Jan 11 01:07:42 yes! :p Jan 11 01:07:55 you can even use db and sqlite Jan 11 01:07:55 i need it for a fast move Jan 11 01:08:08 mysql is not fast Jan 11 01:08:11 are compatible with mysql? Jan 11 01:08:18 i know Jan 11 01:08:18 mysql is fast with huge sets of data, it is not fast with tiny sets of data Jan 11 01:08:32 yes yes... postgre is the best Jan 11 01:08:56 same thing applies for postgres Jan 11 01:09:17 k i dunno really Jan 11 01:09:29 it's fine for large applications, but for a few tiny tables it just isnt worth it Jan 11 01:09:33 ive heared some voices saying postgre is the best :) Jan 11 01:09:42 postgresql is the best ; Jan 11 01:09:43 ;) Jan 11 01:09:46 so xml? Jan 11 01:10:01 mmmhh... Jan 11 01:10:23 and then how could i move my files on sqlserver? Jan 11 01:10:48 sorry? Jan 11 01:10:52 mmm.... ....mmm Jan 11 01:11:19 i need to move the site, after, on a real server lamp.. Jan 11 01:11:27 but... ...mmm Jan 11 01:12:04 if i make all the db working on the files dumped from it... yes... Jan 11 01:12:13 wait i discover another way Jan 11 01:12:21 "maybe" Jan 11 01:12:41 if your other machine is a different archictecture, or different version of db, then you cannot move the .db files Jan 11 01:13:07 that is, you cannot reuse them on the other machine Jan 11 01:13:17 dont wory, i dont mind it Jan 11 01:13:37 but you gimme a big idea Jan 11 01:13:50 The files Jan 11 01:16:53 no is too crazy Jan 11 01:17:15 im thinking to rewrite a script like mysql Jan 11 01:17:36 that write lines on a file with query sql Jan 11 01:17:44 mmmhh... Jan 11 01:18:10 and read from a file the "no-existent" database Jan 11 01:18:44 I still dont grasp what you are trying to do... why do you need mysql? is it some php-application you want to run that requires it? Jan 11 01:19:09 yes Jan 11 01:19:17 it's more standard Jan 11 01:19:23 mmhh.. Jan 11 01:19:40 i could choose an external server Jan 11 01:19:49 that's an option yes Jan 11 01:20:07 dont you know a free one? Jan 11 01:20:25 which php application is it? Jan 11 01:20:38 cause the most of mysql srv dont want to open the ports to external Jan 11 01:20:45 no Jan 11 01:20:50 only mysql Jan 11 01:20:50 I would check what it uses mysql for, and see if that cannot be replaced Jan 11 01:21:08 i could say it to you Jan 11 01:21:40 ah k Jan 11 01:21:50 compatible query Jan 11 01:24:28 but mysql import only the .sql files Jan 11 01:56:43 openslug-native Jan 11 01:57:05 i install this.. i hope it'snt a daemon Jan 11 02:17:50 Has somedoy allready installed the berckley db v4? Jan 11 02:18:21 hey, arent the sysctl on openbsd|? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 11 02:59:58 2007