**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 07 02:59:56 2007 Sep 07 15:08:07 is there any work in progress to make a native (first stage) LE bootloader for NSLU2? Sep 07 15:09:34 lyakh: APEX works and boots any endian kernel. Sep 07 15:10:03 I don't remember if it is big or little endian itself; it doesn't matter in the least Sep 07 15:10:53 well, the kernel can only be booted with the CPU in a certain endianness, right? Sep 07 15:11:41 Yes, and the bootloader needs to ensure that the machine id and the endianness are set correctly, IIRC. Apex does so. Redboot on the NSLU2 does not. Sep 07 15:12:12 As long as the bootloader sets things up correctly before passing control to the kernel, it matters not what endianness the bootloader uses. Sep 07 15:12:16 right, so, at least directly before booting the kernel apex has to switch to LE? Sep 07 15:12:22 yep Sep 07 15:13:18 The recommended solution for the NSLU2 is to use the native redboot to load apex as a second-stage bootloader; apex then sets the machine id and endianness correctly. This eliminates the risk that users will brick the device by reflashing bootloaders. Sep 07 15:13:53 and can one halt in bootloader prompt to load kernel manually or some such? which bootloader would it be then - redboot or apex? Sep 07 15:14:05 yeah, but there's console and jtag extensions? Sep 07 15:14:35 does one have to solder or are there headers installed? Sep 07 15:15:59 solder Sep 07 15:16:04 jtag on most devices Sep 07 15:16:17 if you have jtag, feel free to reflash bootloaders. Sep 07 15:16:47 most don't have skills or equipment, so we do not recommend replacing the bootloader Sep 07 15:17:08 You can halt in the bootloader to do all sorts of things. The wiki has much informaiton on this. Sep 07 15:17:23 gotta run to the airport now. Good luck. Sep 07 15:22:06 sorry, had ISP problems... last I sent: Sep 07 15:22:11 and can one halt in bootloader prompt to load kernel manually or some such? which bootloader would it be then - redboot or apex? Sep 07 15:22:14 yeah, but there's console and jtag extensions? Sep 07 15:22:17 does one have to solder or are there headers installed? Sep 07 15:22:37 and didn't get any answers (well, if there have been any:-)) Sep 07 15:28:44 ok, I have been lazy:-) it is described on wiki. cool, there's even the header installed! so, no losing guarantee! Sep 07 15:29:14 no, there's not:-( Sep 07 15:30:09 oh, ttl too... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 07 17:09:29 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 07 17:09:50 2007 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 08 02:59:57 2007