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Apr 08 10:48:22 <Yuv422> Hey Matt
Apr 08 11:27:54 <Matty__H> yo
Apr 08 11:28:39 <Matty__H> sorry...was try to see if I could compile getwizpnp on windows
Apr 08 11:28:41 <Matty__H> no go
Apr 08 11:28:48 <Matty__H> worke fine on ubuntu
Apr 08 11:28:52 <Yuv422> ah k
Apr 08 11:29:06 <Yuv422> I'm working on my WizMac application
Apr 08 11:29:12 <Matty__H> wow
Apr 08 11:29:17 <Matty__H> you'll be popular
Apr 08 11:29:18 <Yuv422> starting on the file download part
Apr 08 11:29:57 <Matty__H> I was thinking of putting a simple gui together to work with getwizpnp
Apr 08 11:30:02 <Matty__H> for windows
Apr 08 11:30:10 <Yuv422> cool
Apr 08 11:30:15 <Matty__H> but there is alreasy wizfx...but I don't like it much
Apr 08 11:30:40 <Yuv422> yeah there's a bit of room for improvement with the wizfx app
Apr 08 11:30:41 <Matty__H> and I like that you can start viewing the file immediately
Apr 08 11:31:03 <Yuv422> is that a fs feature
Apr 08 11:31:10 <Matty__H> things like being able to queue up etc...
Apr 08 11:31:18 <Yuv422> will it work that way on win32
Apr 08 11:31:19 <Matty__H> I don't know
Apr 08 11:31:36 <Yuv422> yeah I plan to add queueing into WizMac
Apr 08 11:31:50 <Matty__H> I noticed with wizfx you have to wait for the file to finish
Apr 08 11:32:04 <Matty__H> but with getwizpnp you don't
Apr 08 11:32:12 <Matty__H> on either windows or linux
Apr 08 11:32:18 <Yuv422> ah k
Apr 08 11:32:46 <Matty__H> did you ever see trex, was bundled with teds
Apr 08 11:33:02 <Yuv422> I haven't used teds
Apr 08 11:33:12 <Matty__H> it has the ability to queue based on future timers too
Apr 08 11:33:25 <Yuv422> nice
Apr 08 11:34:13 <Matty__H> there were a few things I didn't like about it, so I never ended up using it
Apr 08 11:34:45 <tonymy01_> yeah, the turbo bug was enough to scare me away, and i got the slug fairly early on
Apr 08 11:34:58 <Matty__H> :)
Apr 08 11:35:25 <Yuv422> should I save my files as .ts or .TS?
Apr 08 11:35:35 <Matty__H> lower case
Apr 08 11:35:39 <Yuv422> righto
Apr 08 11:35:42 <Yuv422> :)
Apr 08 11:35:52 <Matty__H> wizfx does
Apr 08 11:36:00 <Matty__H> as does getwizpnp
Apr 08 11:36:25 <Matty__H> I was trying to think of a reason to NOT save as ts
Apr 08 11:37:35 <Matty__H> but it is easier to manage one ts file than several hundered files
Apr 08 11:37:54 <Yuv422> yeah
Apr 08 11:38:43 <Matty__H> so you app is GUI based?
Apr 08 11:39:00 <Yuv422> yup
Apr 08 11:39:24 <Matty__H> open source?
Apr 08 11:39:48 <Yuv422> it will be
Apr 08 11:39:56 <Matty__H> :)
Apr 08 11:39:59 <Yuv422> just waiting to I have it stabalised a bit first
Apr 08 11:40:02 <Yuv422> http://nuvie.sourceforge.net/temp/wizmac.png
Apr 08 11:40:49 <Matty__H> the mac interface is just nice looking isn't it
Apr 08 11:41:15 <Yuv422> yeah :)
Apr 08 11:41:25 <Yuv422> even with my bad UI design
Apr 08 11:41:33 <Yuv422> It looks a bit different now
Apr 08 11:41:38 <Matty__H> k
Apr 08 11:41:47 <Yuv422> I'm going to have a file transfer table under the file list
Apr 08 11:42:00 <Matty__H> progress bar?
Apr 08 11:42:06 <Yuv422> which will should the current transfer with progress bar and queued transfers
Apr 08 11:42:16 <Yuv422> yeah
Apr 08 11:42:17 <Matty__H> nice
Apr 08 11:42:35 <Yuv422> with the ability to pause / view or cancel files
Apr 08 11:42:54 <Matty__H> wow - that's nice
Apr 08 11:42:59 <Yuv422> I'm going to allow resuming too
Apr 08 11:43:34 <Matty__H> I haven't checked to see what getwizpnp does for resuming
Apr 08 11:43:50 <tonymy01_> peteru did resume with puppy yonks ago, and simply backs up a bit I think is his resume algorithm, as you don't know if a full cluster was copied or not at the time of the failure
Apr 08 11:43:50 <Matty__H> but that is pretty important - wizfx doesn't support that currently
Apr 08 11:44:24 <Yuv422> yeah I'm saving the trunc file with my ts in a partial directory
Apr 08 11:44:42 <Yuv422> then I'll check the trunc and backup to the last complete chunk
Apr 08 11:44:47 <Yuv422> and continue from there
Apr 08 11:44:53 <Yuv422> well that's the theory anyway
Apr 08 11:45:07 <tonymy01_> very good idea
Apr 08 11:45:23 <tonymy01_> the chunks aren't all that big, so will work well i think
Apr 08 11:45:31 <Matty__H> how do they work?
Apr 08 11:46:07 <Yuv422> have a look at prl's description on the wiki. :)
Apr 08 11:46:28 <Matty__H> k
Apr 08 11:46:29 <Yuv422> http://openwiz.org/wiki/Recorded_Files#trunc_file
Apr 08 11:53:35 <Matty__H> so it's like / is an index of the mpeg-ts files
Apr 08 11:54:02 <Yuv422> yeah index.txt
Apr 08 12:52:00 <Yuv422> ok I can select a file and download it now
Apr 08 12:52:10 <Yuv422> but there is no feedback in the gui
Apr 08 12:53:40 <Matty__H> awesome
Apr 08 12:53:54 <Matty__H> I'm playing with kommander in ubuntu
Apr 08 12:54:13 <Matty__H> you can very quickly build a GUI
Apr 08 12:54:22 <Matty__H> for scripts etc...
Apr 08 12:55:02 <Yuv422> I need to rework the download process to report progress
Apr 08 12:55:11 <Yuv422> then I'll make a queuemanager class
Apr 08 12:55:38 <Yuv422> then I'll integrate it with the gui
Apr 08 12:55:44 <Matty__H> :)
Apr 08 12:56:02 <Yuv422> at the moment you just see the chunks being downloaded via the console
Apr 08 12:56:10 <Matty__H> how are you going to update the progress?
Apr 08 12:56:16 <Yuv422> yeah
Apr 08 12:56:48 <Yuv422> I should be able to update as I get bytes from the download
Apr 08 12:56:55 <Matty__H> k
Apr 08 12:57:07 <Yuv422> so it will be finer than chunk
Apr 08 13:32:58 <Yuv422> I'm off now
Apr 08 13:33:00 <Yuv422> cya
Apr 08 13:53:58 <Matty__H> cya
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